The chemical neutering of sex offenders, drug offenders and violent criminals
NEUTERLOL
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 16:43, 1 reply, 16 years ago)

So if you're caught with drugs when you're 17 you'll never be able to have kids?

(PsychoChomp, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 16:44, Reply)

Nah you gotta be really bad like
proper big dealer. I was watching Cops with Cameras last night and a guy caught with a stash of Heroin and various drugs paraphernalia received a £100 fine.

I was fined £70 for pissing on the street on a night out so I am extremely bitter.

That's like if he was given 100mg of neuter drug for his drug offence I practically got 70mg and have hardly any swimmers left...
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 16:47, Reply)

It's a ridiculous idea, it would never work
why would you think these criminal masterminds will be put off by the threat of them never being able to have 2.4 kids.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 16:49, Reply)

These criminal masterminds
are invariably the offspring of criminals. Yes I am making a sweeping generalisation but I'm trying to sort out the country here. What the fuck is the actual PM boys doing apart from engaging in daisy chains with their party members?
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 16:52, Reply)

that's not sorting a country out
that's just a short term solution and not even an effective one
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 16:54, Reply)

You mean stopping violent criminals, drug scum and sex criminals reproducing
will not help the country?

I did not consider this possibility.
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 16:57, Reply)

of course it won't
that's just ridiculous. First of all as Chompy pointed out, it's not an effective deterrent for those you have to worry about (i.e. the grown up criminals) and second of all it is brutal trampling of human rights. Do you genuinely think people are born criminals? Do you really think we have a limited, set amount of families that generate criminals?
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 16:59, Reply)

They've got the bad genes
like those jews.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:02, Reply)

I can also suggest that a £100 for a Heroin fiend is not an effective deterrent
that was the equivelant of a couple of "wraps".

But if you allow me to get all Daily Mail for a second, yes I believe a number of criminals are born into a criminal environment. Of course it's not going to stop all crime but I propose that it will help. You think it's the human right of a violent criminal or sex monster to reproduce?
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:03, Reply)

of course
I forgot. Human rights are only given to the people we want to have human rights. That's where I've been going wrong.

Rather than arbitrary and ineffective short term measures, we need to take a long term view of a restructuring of society with an emphasis on tougher terms for criminals, and adequete support for those at most risk of becoming part of the criminal element
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:06, Reply)

That wouldn't make for an interesting post though
But still I stand by the fact that certain criminals in this here society should not have the right to bear children, just like certain criminals should not have the right to live.
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:09, Reply)

if you'd like I can rephrase
OMG u cant tke their rites awy, do u wnt Babby P 2 dye al ovr agin?
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:12, Reply)

I take it you're not a fan of capital punishment then
surely an outrageous breach of human rights in your book.
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:18, Reply)

totalllyy!!!!1!
u cnt kil peeps loike Rol Maot who r rite leg-ends.

To translate, yes I am indeed against capital punishment. I'm such a hippy liberal me
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:20, Reply)

I'm not exactly a hard-nosed nazi
but the current justice system is extremely flawed. Especially that part of me getting a £70 fine for peeing in the street. I'm more outraged about that than any murderer getting any wrist slapping..
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:26, Reply)

I find it hard to be aggrieved on your behalf
having to avoid trickles of piss on the ground is not one of my favourite activities in high heels
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:32, Reply)

It's not as if I whipped my cock out in the middle of the pavement
it was in a stagnant hidden corner at the back of a derelict building.

Again that's not the point - someone caught with thousands of pounds worth of class A drugs and equipment got a £100 fine compared with my £70.
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:49, Reply)

I believe it's everyone's right to reproduce
However, I do believe that no one has a right to be supported by the government because they have kids. Yes, the government may choose to support some or indeed all, but I hate the sense of entitlement that some people have.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:06, Reply)

agreed
but that's a seperate argument from whether they should be allowed to have kids at all
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:07, Reply)

I also agree with that.
The problem I have isn't so much that people are having eleventy billion kids, it's that they demand support for them.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:09, Reply)

citation needed.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 16:55, Reply)

Mark Thature?
He's over-throwing goverments in africa.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 16:57, Reply)

well chemical neutering
implies impossibility to have sex, not just reproduce. And is presumably not irreversible. Not that I'd ever condone it obviously
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 16:53, Reply)

You might get a black-market for children, someone who wants to influence a kid into a young teen to take on their criminal activites.
Donno, maybe that's far-fetched, but the potential is there.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 16:56, Reply)