See how come I don't know books like this exist?
just read the teaser thing on Amazon and it looks right up my street. I don't know where I lost my way but I kind of got stuck on David Gemmell and when he died have been reading random books given to me by friends in between rereading all my Gemmells. I'm going to Waterstones today to buy books.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 12:16, 1 reply, 16 years ago)

it was on the shelf in the work kitchen.
I've found out about a load of good books from discussions on b3ta, which is why I have attempted to start another one.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 12:19, Reply)

IN which case may I recommend
The Sparrow, Mary Doria Russell (brilliantly and heartrendingly written sci-fi)
The Lies of Locke Lamora (Swashbuckling fun fantasy, but somehow still has characters you care about)
Little Brother by Cory Doctorow (aimed at teenagers I found out later and will be out of date in 3 years time, but right now it's relevant and gripping)
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 12:40, Reply)

thanks
I'll add them to my list
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 12:44, Reply)

Warning:
The Sparrow may break your heart
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 12:45, Reply)

The Sparrow one looks very interesting.
Now on my list too.
( girlinthehole, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 12:48, Reply)

There is a sequel, but it's been out of print for ages
which is a crime
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 12:50, Reply)

Is it not this one?
www.play.com/Books/Books/4-/231384/Children-of-God/Product.html?ptsl=1&ob=Price&fb=0
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 12:55, Reply)

yes, that one
I think you'll only get it second hand unless they've rereleased it (that was talk of a film)
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 12:57, Reply)

I have to say
online second hand bookshops are amazing. I love rumaging through actual shops but one winter when I was about 8 my dad made me walk what seemed like 10 miles around a massive bookfayre as he was looking for a book that he had been searching for for a year and we didn't find it and he got angry and it was raining and it sucked.

Now you can type it in whilst drinking wine which I approve of
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 13:00, Reply)

haha! I agree
It's not worth trying to find something in a second hand bookshop. Those are for happy surprises and nerdy second hand photography books.
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 13:03, Reply)

that is true
I have the same problem in bookshops as in music shops. as soon as I walk through the door and am presented with a shelf full of books/CDs I no longer have any ability to remember what I'm after, or choose something new based on cover or synopsis.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 13:06, Reply)

There is a 2nd hand book shop in Hay
(well there are many, but this one in particular) which has a room full of old 50s and 60s sci fi. I lose all sense of taste whenever I go in there and buy anything with time travel in the title
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 13:11, Reply)

I'll bear that in mind
you have reminded me that I haven't finished reading a series of frankly quite shit sci fi. I'm too far in not to want to know what happens though.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 12:49, Reply)

what is it?

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 12:50, Reply)

Kevin J Anderson - Saga of Seven Suns
I wouldn't recommend it
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 12:52, Reply)

oh god!
I won't go near them after what he did to Dune. Bastard, it still hurts
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 12:53, Reply)

his own stuff isn't much better believe me

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 12:55, Reply)

Hahahahahahah I read some of that.
Cocking awful, it was. It's very much a charity-shop-only series.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 12:58, Reply)

I can't believe he was allowed near Dune at all
Dune is a complex, intelligent and elaborately textured world. He got a mallet at it and just wrecked the lot. :(
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 13:00, Reply)

I hope he's on fire right now.
It's the least he deserves.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 13:04, Reply)

it is
what made anyone think that someone who had written some of the post-film Star Wars books would be any good at tackling Dune.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 13:05, Reply)

Because any decent author would have said no.
On a related note, anyone read the new HHGTTG?
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 13:07, Reply)

The one of the film?
I was bought it but never read it for some reason
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 13:07, Reply)

I can't bring myself to
I may make my dad read it and see how angry he gets
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 13:07, Reply)

good point
I have not. This may be sacrilegious, but I'm in two minds about Douglas Adams, on one hand he is brilliant, and on the other he is guilty of what cougar-related incident said about sci-fi/fantasy authors. He got to the point of seeming to write weirdness for its own sake.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 13:11, Reply)

Mostly Harmless?
Which is my least favourite book
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 13:14, Reply)

Nah, some kids author called Eoin Colfer had a crack at a sequel.
I have the fear.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 13:23, Reply)

yeah, s/he wrote the Artemis Fowl stuff
my ex used to read them. Pretty guff.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 13:26, Reply)

I'll get the pitchforks
you guys get the burning torches

WHO'S WITH ME?!
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 13:07, Reply)

Would you like to borrow my gravel?

( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Wed 28 Jul 2010, 13:07, Reply)