the thing with The Office is that he is that much of a twat
it wasn't clever writing. He is a complete wanker and just ramped it up a small amount for the show.

I hate him so much.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 9:40, 5 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

Rubbish,
the office was brilliant writing, there was nothing like it on TV at the time, and it was seriously smart, embarrassing and very funny.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 9:45, Reply)

Fucking hell
I agree wholesale. In fact that's exactly how I'd put it. What the hell's going on?
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 9:48, Reply)

it was clever
but I'm with Vipros on the idea that Gervais is just naturally a massive cunt and that was what gave the show it's edge- the fact it wasn't acting/a script but a genuine arsehole
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 9:53, Reply)

I think my overwhelming dislike of Gervais has skewed my opinion somewhat
I find everything about him objectionable.

The idea behind the Office and a lot of how it was executed was very good, I just can't stand him. At all.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 10:13, Reply)

try the American office, it has Steve Carrell in it :D
*disclaimer - I haven't seen either version so I can't compare the two.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 10:15, Reply)

the american one isn't actually too bad
it's different in that the manager guy is just completely stupid rather than horribly obnoxious.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 10:18, Reply)

I agree
my friends got me tickets to his fame tour for my birthday. I was so bored it was untrue. He is not funny at all.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 9:46, Reply)

The Fame standup is his jump the shark moment
if you'll excuse the slightly clumsy appropriation of the term. It marks the point where his success had clearly changed him and he stopped trying so hard. I stand by everything he did prior to that though. And The Office is magnificent TV
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 9:48, Reply)

Maybe that was the point behind calling it Fame
maybe he was actually being very observational and displaying how Fame has changed him. Maybe it wasn't standup, maybe it was observational drama.

Maybe it was interpretive dance. Interpretive dance means you don't actually have to dance if you don't want to.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 9:57, Reply)

Don't get me started on interpretative dance
It's not dance, it's just twatting about in a floaty way. I'd like to see any of those poncey twats take on a decent Foxtrot. Now that's dancing
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 10:02, Reply)

Never mind interpretative dance what about Soena Dancing

(Cave Duck, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 10:23, Reply)

If anyone else gets this it ought to get you absurd amounts of credit
As it is, you might have to make do with me applauding you lots
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 10:28, Reply)

You're far too kind, sir.

(Cave Duck, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 10:46, Reply)

This ^
The Office was shit and Gervais is shit. Its just fucking boring
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 9:46, Reply)

^ this^
so much this. Said it for ages that the Office is just what he's like naturally, as can be seen in the other films he's done, where he is basically exactly the same
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 9:50, Reply)