I went free range
until I visited a free range chicken farm and remembered what foul, disgusting beasts chickens are. Plus one bit my daughter. These free range chickens had been given freedom to roam and were still evil so fuck them. Fuck all chickens and their stupid fucking beaks and wings. I hope they all live a short life in agony before ending up on my dinner plate.

Cows on the other hand are awesome creatures. I only eat free range beef, oh and veal. Yummy, delicious, tortured, baby veal.
( Peej, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:37, 3 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

You're not helping : (

( girlinthehole, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:38, Reply)

It's not so much about the conditions,
although I do think chickens should be allowed to run around before you kill them and eat them, it's about the taste. Battery chickens, or barn reared chickens simply don't taste as good.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:45, Reply)

Most of the chicken I eat is mixed with so many spices that you can't taste it
I'm not a fan of the great British roast dinner. Over cooked meat with overcooked vegetables doesn't appeal.
( Peej, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:48, Reply)

My nephew, who used to be in charge of a barn rearing site, pointed out something that most of us wouldn't stop to think about - that free range chickens are more at risk of disease as you have no control of the wild birds that visit the site.
(Cave Duck, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:56, Reply)

Oh well that's clearly an excellent argument for locking all chickens up in tiny cages isn't it.

(Bazongaloid, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:09, Reply)

^ this

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:10, Reply)

No, like I said it was a barn site where they had enough room to move freely (they mostly supplied the Halal market)
It is however a valid point about the general health of the birds.

Do at least try to understand the point before disagreeing.
(Cave Duck, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:12, Reply)

It's not a valid point at all
Birds, naturally, will sometimes get diseases, that's sad, but it's life. Growing up in a barn, even if there is a bit of room to run around and some CDs tied to string to "interest" the birds is no substitute for being able to walk in and out of their house and peck at the actual ground rather than a concrete floor covered in straw.

The fact that a small percentage of the birds doing that may contract a disease from a wild bird is nothing compared to the variety of horrific things that can happen to a chicken forced to live on straw soaking with its own shit and piss.

EDIT - and they supplied the Halal market, pretty much the most cruel and unpleasant way of killing an animal and you're using this as justification against some birds getting natural diseases?
(Bazongaloid, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:37, Reply)

Of course it's a valid point. It's in their commercial interest the the birds are in as good a condition as possible, and are disease free.
Who said anything about the straw being soaked with shit and piss? What are the many horrific things that you speak of?
(Cave Duck, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:45, Reply)

Sitting on bedding soaked in urine cause hock burns
Bird kept in cramped conditions end up eating each other. These are two pretty horrible things.

And my original point was that free range chicken tastes better than intensively reared or barn reared chicken. I also said I liked the idea of my chickens being about before being killed.

And so I said that catching a disease off a wild bird is far less of a problem than those problems which do occur in intensive chicken farms, I didn't even mention commercial interests, but the logical choice of the commercial interest IS intensive rearing as you get maximum chicken for minimum time and investment, but once again my point is that 1) it's not very nice and 2) it tastes rubbish compared to free range.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:54, Reply)

What you did is to use one small side point (made by someone who has worked in the industry and who had to complete the avian modules that a fully qualified vet would do) I was adding to the debate and tried to make it appear that it was being used as a justification for battery hen farming when it wasn't.
(Cave Duck, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 11:09, Reply)

yeah
It works for children, too.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:45, Reply)

Well they fucking deserve it

(Bazongaloid, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:55, Reply)

I too hate chickens and wish them a slow and painful death,
Pecky, beaky little cunts.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:50, Reply)

I can't understand why people feel this affection for them
They have many of the same habits as rats.
( Peej, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:52, Reply)

I have a rat
he's lovely.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:23, Reply)

How can you hate a chicken?

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:53, Reply)

I just imagine that it's you, and nature does the rest.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:56, Reply)

Sorry I didn't clarify what I meant there.
I mean how can you feel so strongly about an animal? It's not like chickens stopped you seeing your daughter. Why can't you just feel indifferent towards them. Hate is a bit strong for a chicken my friend.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:59, Reply)

I have a phobia of birds.
Feel free you make a 'UR gay' joke - I would.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:23, Reply)

do they give you a Tern for the worse?

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:24, Reply)

someone put a swift stop to this, please.

(BrianHequator was stretching owls, on, or around, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:25, Reply)

They don't call, they don't send flowers...

(Cave Duck, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:58, Reply)

and when you do spend time with them they just peck peck peck away

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:01, Reply)

Always, the pecking. In the end you just want to wring their necks.

(Cave Duck, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:08, Reply)

Many I time I have sat there seething. I was so angry I was spitting feathers!

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:11, Reply)