I am seriously thinking about starting to eat chicken again.
I watched that posh tart's cooking programme last night and she roasted a chicken and somehow the smell and taste came flooding back. I would only eat free range though.

Would I be wrong to go back now after so long abstaining? I'm torn.
( girlinthehole, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:31, 230 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

Sounds painful.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:33, Reply)

Surprisingly it is.

( girlinthehole, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:37, Reply)

Go for it!
Free range corn fed roast chicken is fabulous!! Shove some potatoes and parsnips in after about half an hour, then make sure you pour all the juices out of the chicken so the veg soaks it up. FUCKING NYOM!

GO GO GO GO GO!
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:33, Reply)

Go for British organic chicken with the Soil Association Logo.
They are better looked after than any other type.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:36, Reply)

This is such a nice way to cook chicken. Shame the summer is over but still doable.
www.ilovemybbq.com/index.php/bbq-recipe-ideas-tips/bbq-recipe-bbq-beer-chicken-bum-step-step-guide/
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:36, Reply)

Chicken porn.
NSFC
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:37, Reply)

I went free range
until I visited a free range chicken farm and remembered what foul, disgusting beasts chickens are. Plus one bit my daughter. These free range chickens had been given freedom to roam and were still evil so fuck them. Fuck all chickens and their stupid fucking beaks and wings. I hope they all live a short life in agony before ending up on my dinner plate.

Cows on the other hand are awesome creatures. I only eat free range beef, oh and veal. Yummy, delicious, tortured, baby veal.
( Peej, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:37, Reply)

You're not helping : (

( girlinthehole, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:38, Reply)

It's not so much about the conditions,
although I do think chickens should be allowed to run around before you kill them and eat them, it's about the taste. Battery chickens, or barn reared chickens simply don't taste as good.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:45, Reply)

Most of the chicken I eat is mixed with so many spices that you can't taste it
I'm not a fan of the great British roast dinner. Over cooked meat with overcooked vegetables doesn't appeal.
( Peej, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:48, Reply)

My nephew, who used to be in charge of a barn rearing site, pointed out something that most of us wouldn't stop to think about - that free range chickens are more at risk of disease as you have no control of the wild birds that visit the site.
(Cave Duck, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:56, Reply)

Oh well that's clearly an excellent argument for locking all chickens up in tiny cages isn't it.

(Bazongaloid, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:09, Reply)

^ this

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:10, Reply)

No, like I said it was a barn site where they had enough room to move freely (they mostly supplied the Halal market)
It is however a valid point about the general health of the birds.

Do at least try to understand the point before disagreeing.
(Cave Duck, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:12, Reply)

It's not a valid point at all
Birds, naturally, will sometimes get diseases, that's sad, but it's life. Growing up in a barn, even if there is a bit of room to run around and some CDs tied to string to "interest" the birds is no substitute for being able to walk in and out of their house and peck at the actual ground rather than a concrete floor covered in straw.

The fact that a small percentage of the birds doing that may contract a disease from a wild bird is nothing compared to the variety of horrific things that can happen to a chicken forced to live on straw soaking with its own shit and piss.

EDIT - and they supplied the Halal market, pretty much the most cruel and unpleasant way of killing an animal and you're using this as justification against some birds getting natural diseases?
(Bazongaloid, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:37, Reply)

Of course it's a valid point. It's in their commercial interest the the birds are in as good a condition as possible, and are disease free.
Who said anything about the straw being soaked with shit and piss? What are the many horrific things that you speak of?
(Cave Duck, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:45, Reply)

Sitting on bedding soaked in urine cause hock burns
Bird kept in cramped conditions end up eating each other. These are two pretty horrible things.

And my original point was that free range chicken tastes better than intensively reared or barn reared chicken. I also said I liked the idea of my chickens being about before being killed.

And so I said that catching a disease off a wild bird is far less of a problem than those problems which do occur in intensive chicken farms, I didn't even mention commercial interests, but the logical choice of the commercial interest IS intensive rearing as you get maximum chicken for minimum time and investment, but once again my point is that 1) it's not very nice and 2) it tastes rubbish compared to free range.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:54, Reply)

What you did is to use one small side point (made by someone who has worked in the industry and who had to complete the avian modules that a fully qualified vet would do) I was adding to the debate and tried to make it appear that it was being used as a justification for battery hen farming when it wasn't.
(Cave Duck, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 11:09, Reply)

yeah
It works for children, too.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:45, Reply)

Well they fucking deserve it

(Bazongaloid, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:55, Reply)

I too hate chickens and wish them a slow and painful death,
Pecky, beaky little cunts.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:50, Reply)

I can't understand why people feel this affection for them
They have many of the same habits as rats.
( Peej, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:52, Reply)

I have a rat
he's lovely.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:23, Reply)

How can you hate a chicken?

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:53, Reply)

I just imagine that it's you, and nature does the rest.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:56, Reply)

Sorry I didn't clarify what I meant there.
I mean how can you feel so strongly about an animal? It's not like chickens stopped you seeing your daughter. Why can't you just feel indifferent towards them. Hate is a bit strong for a chicken my friend.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:59, Reply)

I have a phobia of birds.
Feel free you make a 'UR gay' joke - I would.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:23, Reply)

do they give you a Tern for the worse?

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:24, Reply)

someone put a swift stop to this, please.

(BrianHequator was stretching owls, on, or around, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:25, Reply)

They don't call, they don't send flowers...

(Cave Duck, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:58, Reply)

and when you do spend time with them they just peck peck peck away

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:01, Reply)

Always, the pecking. In the end you just want to wring their necks.

(Cave Duck, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:08, Reply)

Many I time I have sat there seething. I was so angry I was spitting feathers!

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:11, Reply)

Screw chicken
If you're going to do it, you may as well do it right and go straight for bacon.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:38, Reply)

Wrap chicken in bacon for more nomness.

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:44, Reply)

I did that recently
Stuffed it with haggis first of course. Then poured peppercorn sauce all over it.
Really, the chicken was just a bacon-delivery system by the end.
(Falstaff's Spiritual Successor, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:46, Reply)

That sounds lovely!!

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:47, Reply)

You know those times when you're full, utterly full
but you can't stop eating because your food is so delicious?
Yeah. That.
(Falstaff's Spiritual Successor, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:48, Reply)

*takes note*
Buys haggis
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:49, Reply)

Mmmmmmm haggis

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:50, Reply)

Don't forget the green beans and new potatoes and a small amount of garlic-infused olive oil to drizzle on the veggies.

(Falstaff's Spiritual Successor, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:51, Reply)

I had roast chicken
last night for dinner. 'Twas lovely. Eat it again.
(Himjim died a little more inside on, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:39, Reply)

Yes yes you should
mmm lemon chicken

mmmmmmm chicken satay

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm chicken chow mein
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:39, Reply)

You're already converting to Gonzism!

(Bazongaloid, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:45, Reply)

It's so much easier than thinking how words are actually spelt

( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:19, Reply)

Roast chicken is one of the nicest things on the planet
So what's been happening? I was off yesterday afternoon and there're hundreds of replies that I can't be bothered reading. Somebody summarise, please.
( Kroney, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:40, Reply)

Most people decided you were a massive tool
And decided to put you on ignore. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

Signed,
PoD
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:42, Reply)

Who are you talking to?

(Falstaff's Spiritual Successor, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:46, Reply)

Well you've ruined this
You wouldn't be able to see my reply. YOU'VE RUINED EVERYTHING!
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:48, Reply)

Wouldn't I? Oops.
Tee hee.
(Falstaff's Spiritual Successor, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:50, Reply)

Well played
*doffs cap*
( Kroney, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:55, Reply)

You should and then gradually start introducing yourself to game
In this order:

Guinea Fowl
Duck
Partridge
Pigeon
Pheasant
Grouse
Swan
(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:41, Reply)

My brother in law tells me swan is not actually very nice.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:45, Reply)

Never tried it tbh. I'd quite like to try Puffin or Dodo, but I think I might struggle to find that.

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:50, Reply)

Puffin is very fishy I understand.
As it would be.

Dodo, I suspect, might be a little dry, very hard to find fresh ones too.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:52, Reply)

I'm sure I can dig some up somehow. If I braise it slowly enough it should be ok - a little earthy I think.
Ever had ostrich? Had it once - very nice.
(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:57, Reply)

I have, but only as a burger, It was so-so to be honest.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:20, Reply)

I reckon ostrich is a bit lean to make good burgers.
I had a steak of it once, wrapped in parma ham I think, in order to up the lard and salt quotient. Most agreeable.
(BrianHequator was stretching owls, on, or around, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:22, Reply)

I had Ostrich once,
It was so tough I couldn't get my gnashers through it.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:24, Reply)

My sister makes awesome Jamaican chicken and rice.

( girlinthehole, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:46, Reply)

There we go then. Chicken time.
You've no shortage of recipes, or humanely-raised chooks.

Eat the chicken, Big-girl's-blouse. Eeaat iiit. Eeeeeaaaat iiiiiit.
(Falstaff's Spiritual Successor, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:48, Reply)

But......but.........but!
Oh I don't know.
( girlinthehole, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:49, Reply)

Yes, she does.

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:13, Reply)

ORLY?

( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:47, Reply)

Hahaha!

( girlinthehole, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:48, Reply)

That's fowl.

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:51, Reply)

She was in a foul mood this morning
it's hardly my fault it's raining
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:03, Reply)

She's a Buff Orpington cross isn't she?
*shows limited chicken knowledge*
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:14, Reply)

She's an ex-battery hen
I belive the hybrid is known as "ISA Brown"
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:20, Reply)

Well, she is looking very happy.
How many have you got?
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:23, Reply)

Only the 1
I started with 3 but I gave one away as it was mental and another one never recovered from her time as a battery hen and died after a few months (poor old Lucy).

But Charlie seems more than happy to be a pet chicken on her own.
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:27, Reply)

I suppose for battery birds they can get on by themselves.
we keep 4 at a time, and they are always the same age, so bullying is reduced.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:32, Reply)

When i'm at work she has a nice big run to explore
and I spend quite a bit of time in my garden, so I let her out then. I spent the summer evenings reading in my garden while Charlie had a nice run around.

( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:37, Reply)

Big question.
Are you going to eat her? Even though she is an egg bird, Coq au vin cooked very slowly, and for a long time, is still very nice with them.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:40, Reply)

No
She's a pet now. I am also reliably informed that there is very little meat on ex battery hens.
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:43, Reply)

Fair enough.

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:46, Reply)

I want to keep chickens when I have a garden.
I want to do it in Aus though so I can call them chooks.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:46, Reply)

I call them 'chooks' anyway
cuz that's how I roll
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:51, Reply)

I'm going to join you in this then
Let's steal the Aussies' language and use it against them!
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 11:12, Reply)

This is starting to remind me of those heady days
when 'Ed' still frequented this board...
(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:58, Reply)

That photo makes me laugh
it looks a bit like she's been fired toward the camera a la 'Hot Shots: Part Deux'.
(Zoz prayed for twink on, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 11:16, Reply)

You're basically saying you're 'hungry for cock', right?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:49, Reply)

In a way........yes!

( girlinthehole, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:51, Reply)

Pop those pigtails in and I see what I can do.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:53, Reply)

I may wear them to the bash.
I'm up for looking like a twat.
( girlinthehole, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:58, Reply)

up for looking like
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:22, Reply)

Oh, come on
looking like a

Is clearly the superior strikethrough. Some of you OT guys need to up your game.

Edit - oh, total strikethrough fail. Undone by my own smugness. what a cunt I am.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:49, Reply)

This is not even remotely amusing.
_{Baaahahahaha!}
(Falstaff's Spiritual Successor, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:52, Reply)

Depends, why are you veggie in the first place?
If it's because of the moral implications then no it's not really ok to choose to eat some animals but not others.

But if it's for health or taste reasons then do what you like, there's no point in restricting your diet if it makes you miserable, as it did with me when I was veggie.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:50, Reply)

Moral implications
is easily the worst reasoning for abstaining from eating food. If you just don't like it, fair enough.

Actually no, "if you wouldn't kill it yourself" is the worst reasoning for abstaining from food. "I don't like x y z about the way they're treated" is the second worst.
( Kroney, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:54, Reply)

Well I don't know if I agree with the second bit
because I strongly disagree with battery chickens and I do think that if the animals are horribly mistreated before they die then it is a concern and something we should be endeavouring to stop, by refusing to buy those products.

However, saying 'if you wouldn't kill it yourself' is silly because I wouldn't want to be a high rise window cleaner but it doesn't mean I don't want clean windows.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:56, Reply)

Well the second bit
is quite possibly based in my deep rooted dislike of granola munchers. Their logic is often horribly flawed.
( Kroney, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:57, Reply)

I know that Swipey and BGB are both pescatarian
but that annoys me. If you're going to be veggie, then to me that means all animals, not picking the ones you like. I have a preachy friend who tells everyone she is veggie and won't eat anything from a plate if it has had meat on it, but she eats fish. She tells me this is because fish don't have an emotional lobe in their brain so catching and killing them doesn't hurt them. I think this is bollocks.

I also can't be doing with preachy vegetarians who get really arsey about it in restaurants. When I was veggie I was aware that I was effectively being awkward when we went out for meals, so I wouldn't demand to know if the chips had been cooked in vegetable oil or if there was gelatine in the desserts because I'm already being 'fussy', I don't want to cause the staff any more hassle.

But I can't really talk, I gave in after several years and nommed an entire tin of anchovies, followed by a huge steak. The next day I had all you can eat Chinese.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:02, Reply)

This is a brilliant end to being vegetarian
One of my friends stopped being veggie by eating a Big Mac. I told her she was an awful person.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:05, Reply)

My sister used to be veggie too,
but towards the end she broke with a McChicken sandwich or two every few weeks.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:07, Reply)

I think I told my friend
That the Big Mac eating made her worse than a vegetarian.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:08, Reply)

My brother was for 9 years.
When he finally cracked he went insane. I got a call once where I was told 'I've got a heart in my freezer'.

It was all a bit 'Albert Fish'.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:09, Reply)

haha

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:12, Reply)

I'd love to see a veggie go a bit mental
And just eat essentially a whole cow.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:12, Reply)

It's about choice.
Whey should what I choose to eat or not eat annoy you? I just hate the idea of an animal suffering while it's alive, whether it's reared for food or a pet.
( girlinthehole, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:06, Reply)

Sorry Blousie
I don't mean to be preachy myself, it's probably mostly because of my friend who is pescatarian who has a great many annoying qualities and she develops affectations just so she can be different, I feel the vegetarianism is one of them. She also claims she needs to eat fish or she'll die of anaemia or something. I'm anaemic, I just take iron tablets.

I know it's a choice and I eat all the animals so I shouldn't complain really, but I feel just as bad for fish that are caught in nets or by hooks and then killed, especially stuff like lobster where they are kept alive in the freezer until they are smashed over the head or boiled alive. Not that many of us will eat lobster on a daily basis!

I think if you're going to be veggie you should go the whole hog (ha, sorry), but you're right it is about choice and it's certainly not up to me what anyone eats.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:11, Reply)

I doubt crustaceans have the nervous system in place to suffer greatly, but that's just my guess.
I understand what you're saying but goddamit.....I miss chicken, even after all these years : )
( girlinthehole, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:15, Reply)

You've answered your own question so the new question is when you do eat chicken
How are you gonna prepare it? A simple roast or something a bit more fancy?
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:20, Reply)

I missed chicken quite a lot
I missed everything though. If it wasn't for Wiggy I think I'd stil be veggie, it was just that whenever he cooked tea he would make his and then he would make the veggie version for me and his would always look and smell so much nicer than mine, it got really depressing. The veggie choices are pretty good nowadays, I think I even had a fake chicken kiev, but there's no substitute for the real thing.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:27, Reply)

"I think if you're going to be veggie you should go the whole hog"
Presumably you believe that all meat eaters should eat all animals then and not have any emotional issues regarding cats, dogs or horses.
(Cave Duck, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:24, Reply)

well yeah kind of!
It's only really by chance that we've befriended cats and dogs over any other animals. Some people keep chickens, ducks and geese as pets and they wouldn't dream of eating them.

I've been to China, I've eaten dog.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:28, Reply)

I'd eat dog, no problem.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:30, Reply)

You and me both
not cats though. I freely admit that's because I like them as animals. The rest I don't give a shit about and I'll mange away all I like on them.
( Kroney, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:33, Reply)

Everyone was shocked when ostrich and penguin came up in the supermarkets
but I think the more they make it mainstream the less people will be bothered by it.

I don't think anyone in the West will ever think it's ok to eat cats though, we've kept them elevated to the god-like status the Egyptians first did.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:39, Reply)

And rat?
Sorry.
I'm just making the general point that for most people there is an emotional/moral element to deciding what they eat.
(Cave Duck, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:33, Reply)

I'm not sure I'd eat rat
but that's because they're a bit disease ridden. I think I would go on taste, I don't think a rat would be very tasty. Plus there wouldn't be much meat on it unless it was one of those fuck off dog rats.

Same with hammy hamsters, pointless to cook it, it's tiny. However, I did see on a travel blog that someone had eaten guinea pig in Thailand and it made me feel a bit funny. However, I think that was the photo, it looked like a skinned guinea pig. I don't like food that looks like what it used to be, I hate whole fish in restaurants.

I understand the point you're making though.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:36, Reply)

Not really. Anyone can pick and choose
If you want to be vegetarian, fine. Your choice. We all have the right to chose what we eat. But basically:

- don't preach on about it being healthier because it isn't
- Actually, don't preach full stop.
- don't even attempt to make your children be veggie. If you "can't bring yourself to handle meat" you shouldn't have bred in the first place and
- FFS don't be vegan. That is wrong. You have the right to choose, unless your choice is to be an idiot, at which point I'm taking your right to choice off you, forcibly if necessary.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:54, Reply)

My brother went off meat cause he hated bones.
At least he didn't try and pretend there was some noble purpose to it.
(Falstaff's Spiritual Successor, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:00, Reply)

The boy needs to discover the wonder of the Chicken Nugget!

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:02, Reply)

I have a friend who won't eat meat because he doesn't like the idea of eating something that was alive
it makes him 'feel funny'. He also eats fish though and doesn't give a shit about gelatine, or whether or not there is meat in the same house as his veggie food.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:03, Reply)

I was against the awful way animals were reared.
There wasn't free range meat availabe when I became a vegetarian. I eat fish because they are free range.
( girlinthehole, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:00, Reply)

that's fair enough
I do as much as I can in that sense, in only buying free range eggs and I try and avoid any un-free range animals, but really I just do what the majority of the nation do, nom my steak with gusto and try not to think about the pretty little moo cows that don't moo any more.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:04, Reply)

i don't think i could eat chicken again now
it's been so long, and whenever it has happened accidentally (happens more often than you'd think, given (i) the number of non-english speaking waiters at events in london; and (ii) the sheer amount of cheese they use at pizza hut) it has made me retch. duck was worse though, jesus that was like a mouthful of warm earth.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:53, Reply)

Are you a vegetarian Rachelswipe?

(Bicycle Repairman "you're also a bit of a wanker", Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:55, Reply)

yup!
i thought you knew that, god pjm, don't you memorise every single last detail about me and my life?!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:03, Reply)

Ah, my memory is far from photographic these days
As you probably recall, I don't eat red meat (haven't done so since 2003) but I cannot quite bring myself to quit eating chicken.

I still miss bacon though.
(Bicycle Repairman "you're also a bit of a wanker", Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:30, Reply)

Good morrow, sweetness.
Duck is fabulous if correctly prepared.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:56, Reply)

hello you
no no no, i am going to start our friday with an argument now!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:02, Reply)

The wonderful world of meat
is one I shall never depart from, save upon my death.

When we're married, will I have to eat my foie gras in the garden?
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:07, Reply)

so far
i am making you give up meat and smoking. and smoked meat. it's lucky i'm such a catch innit.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:08, Reply)

I feel so lucky.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:10, Reply)

i do have some good qualities
i refer you to the DD cup bra and ability to suck a golfball through a hosepipe 5 times a night.

that might be about it though.

oh and my car. i have a nice car. i may have mentioned it before. i may also mention it again on the "waste of money" qotw, but at least it's got looks.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:11, Reply)

I fear you will have to search me nightly
to make sure I've not smuggled any German charcuterie into the house.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:12, Reply)

if you behave yourself well enough (three times)
i might allow it
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:15, Reply)

*orders an entire wild boar*

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:18, Reply)

Wild?
It was livid.
(BrianHequator was stretching owls, on, or around, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:19, Reply)

the confidence is admirable

( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:20, Reply)

I was veggie when I went to France
and in the airport I asked the woman behind the counter which of the pizza baguette things were veggie and she kept pointing at the tuna one. Then when I gave up and ordered macaroni cheese, it had ham in it.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:57, Reply)

A musician friend of mine
had a similar nightmare on tour in Japan. In the end he just gave up and ate fish.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:59, Reply)

we used to have a house in spain
and there were many restaurants where i could literally just eat bread. this is because i do eat fish but i am fussy about things you have to fight with before you can eat them.

my dad (after bollocking me for being so fussy... i was 27 years old...) said to one of the proprietors, "there is nothing here my daughter can eat", and he just stared at me and gave this massive shrug.

france, spain - they don't get vegetarians!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:02, Reply)

My mum is veggie and that was her main complaint about France when they went over there on their boat
she said she was sick of eating bread and cheese because even the stuff they call veggie has fish or chicken in it. It's getting better because more young people are becoming veggie, but it's still a long way off!
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:06, Reply)

they genuinely don't understand why you would be
mind you, if i had a single principle, i'd find it more difficult. i simply don't like the sinews or the taste in my mouth!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:08, Reply)

that's what one of my pesky friends says
he would happily kick a cat to death.

I'm kidding obviously, he's not batshit mental or anything.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:13, Reply)

It least you were able to source plenty of bread for your other bread-related "activities"

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:13, Reply)

huh?
oh wait, you mean al and his baguetteporn??
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:14, Reply)

Of course.

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:16, Reply)

Spain is particularly bad for this
In one of the tapas bars I went in there were two stereotypical american girls (not the fat stereotype, the thin, blonde, whiny stereotype) whinging that there wasn't a vegetarian menu. The chef obligingly knocked them something together and they bitched and whinged some more because it had ham in it. The guy behind the bar gave them a slowest, blankest look and told them 'but ham isn't real meat! Just pick it out if it bothers you.'
They left.
(berk, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:14, Reply)

^this
In Greece I got something wiht bits of ham in it. I just picked it out. No biggie.
( girlinthehole, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:15, Reply)

They were proper squealing about it
'Like, omigod, that's like, so disgusting'. You could feel the hatred for them coming off people in waves.
(berk, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:17, Reply)

Yeah I picked the ham out of my macaroni cheese
It would just be thrown away if you sent it back anyway so you might as well eat the non-meaty bits. Plus the next meal that came out would have spit on it.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:30, Reply)

I'm going to go back on all I said below about tolerance
and point out that's because the French and Spanish don't waste their time pandering to anyone with the principles of a whiny teenage EMO.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 11:00, Reply)

This is basically the only redeeming feature of France
Spain, however, I like a lot.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:58, Reply)

If I remember rightly this was a moral issue for you. So.
If you can butcher one yourself, go for it.
(porkylips looks better as the sun goes down., Fri 1 Oct 2010, 9:55, Reply)

I could if I was hungry enough.

( girlinthehole, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:01, Reply)

I was totally vegetarian for the first twenty-eight years of my life.
Nothing wrong with a bit of chicken. In fact, it's fucking awesome.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:02, Reply)

If it's the moral wrongness of eating a chicken
that was treated like shit that bothers you, go down to a decent butchers and get some that's free range. Try it, and if you still feel guilty about it then don't try it again. At least then you'll know.
(berk, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:16, Reply)

I may get some today and see how it goes.
Or dwell on it a bit longer.
( girlinthehole, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:22, Reply)

Eat some fucking meat - don't be a poof.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:23, Reply)

Here, I've got some
*unzips*
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:26, Reply)

I think you should go back to bed for another year.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:29, Reply)

If I could, I would.

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:31, Reply)

that's a thought
is it just the whole of September that he's supposed to be asleep? They didn't specify a start time. Like the Gremlins thing again. Why can't people be specific?!
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:32, Reply)

Disorganised rabble, the lot of 'em.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:33, Reply)

It's a fookin disgrace

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:35, Reply)

Go the whole whack, get a KFC
It may have been treated terribly, and may be greasy, but goddamnit, it's delicious!
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:26, Reply)

I haven't eaten KFC
since 5 years ago I found a chicken head in my meal.

Never again.
(Himjim died a little more inside on, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:27, Reply)

If that ever happens to me, I'd like to think that I'd be so horrified I couldn't continue my meal, and complain
In reality, I'd probably just eat round it.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:27, Reply)

Hey, you call it chicken, we call it chicken.
Let's just pretend it's chicken, OK?

unlucky fried kitten
(BrianHequator was stretching owls, on, or around, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:28, Reply)

Haha
I can't even remember the last time me or my friends called it a KFC. It's not just referred to as 'Bucket?'
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:29, Reply)

Were you in China at the time?
They love that shit.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:29, Reply)

Nope, Leamington Spa

(Himjim died a little more inside on, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:29, Reply)

Hory Shit!

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:30, Reply)

Hahah I like you again now.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:32, Reply)

Good good

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:32, Reply)

I have a little bit of sick in my mouth now. Thanks.
Also - have a look at this KFC product:

www.geekologie.com/2010/08/mmmm_meaty_skiny_the_kfc_skinw.php?asid=4f26c4c6
(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:29, Reply)

Looks rather mingin, but I'd give it a try

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:30, Reply)

Since that time
I've invested in a deep fryer and make all my own fried chicken. It's delicious and free range.

That Skinwich is disgusting, but I know a couple of American Friends who have tried it. I made a (home-made) Double Down fairly recently and nearly died when I ate it.
(Himjim died a little more inside on, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:31, Reply)

There's a downs joke there, I just can't think of it.
Home made chips and fried chicken are awesome.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:32, Reply)

In the less reputable takeaways of Glasgow...
and possibly other places besides, who fuckin' knows...
lurks a treat known as the 'Scooby Snack'.
It consists of a burger, a square sausage, bacon, egg, potato scone and cheese, all fried up and served in a roll.
It is about eight inches thick, and the foulest concoction known to man or woman or stomach. Generally obtained on the way home form a night out.

However, I made a home made version with posh ingredients and a grill once, and it was delicious (though that could have been the chilis I added.)
(Falstaff's Spiritual Successor, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:36, Reply)

I was in Glasgow a few months back
And I got some chicken pakoras (never seen them before). The guy said he only had spicy ones left, I didn't mind. Fuck me, my mouth was on fire!
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:40, Reply)

WANT!
Chicken skin is the best bit!
(Zoz prayed for twink on, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:32, Reply)

At 3 am
That would look like epic.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:32, Reply)

If I get peckish at 3am
Pretty much the only thing I'll ever eat is Quavers. Others crisps simply do not suffice.

If I had skips or Nik Naks, only then would I reconsider this.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:34, Reply)

It's all about frazzles. Crisps pretending to be bacon. Devious delicious little bastards.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:37, Reply)

No chance, they're utterly vile
It's all about the Quavers.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:40, Reply)

Do they still do prawn ones?

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:44, Reply)

Don't think so, not seen them in ages

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:45, Reply)

They were lovely
Just recalling how good squares were as well. Only cheese and onion though.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:50, Reply)

Nah, salt and vinegar are king
Cheese and onion of any brand can fuck off.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:56, Reply)

I'm the exact opposite.
hate s and v
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:59, Reply)

Its not real unfortunately :(

( Peej, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:35, Reply)

I am quite relieved about that.
(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:42, Reply)

Good lord
I had taken to calling KFC "Kompletely Free of Chicken" - clearly I was wrong...
(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:46, Reply)

Get hideously drunk
Enter a kebab shop, order same, eat it.

All moral arguments now pointless.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:28, Reply)

Chicken kebab with a doner top, chilli sauce with a little garlic mayo
FIT.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:31, Reply)

I A
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:32, Reply)

Would you eat it though?
Or has Tayyabs ruined your appetite for mere kebab shops?
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:34, Reply)

There are a great many top-quality Turkish grill restaurants
up the road from me in Dalston.

If I want a kebab (and I sometimes do) I am fortunate in having a choice of dozens of real barbecue shops in which to spend my cash.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:37, Reply)

Any decent Jerk chicken places near you? we have a couple in Kilburn that are good.

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:39, Reply)

Closest thing I've ever had to jerk chicken just used Reggae Reggae
Disappointing as hell
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:41, Reply)

You need to try the real thing with rice & peas (rice & kidney beans). Avoid fried plantain on the side though.

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:43, Reply)

I cooked my own once, but the reggae reggae just ruined it.
No strength in it at all
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:44, Reply)

Jamaican dumplings are foul as well.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:45, Reply)

Yep. Where do you stand on curried goat?

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:51, Reply)

He married her

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:54, Reply)

'Tropical Eat' on Mare Street is superb for takeaway,
for a proper sit-down Caribbean meal, the terribly-named 'Anda de Bridge' in Shoreditch is great - or was a couple of years ago, at least.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:43, Reply)

Anda da sea, anda da sea
Dahling eetz better, down where it wetter, take eet from me!
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:44, Reply)

Couple of decent-ish
ones in Hoxton, nothing magical though. My colleague swears by one on Essex Road, but I've never been able to find it!
(Himjim died a little more inside on, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:46, Reply)

I've not found a better Kebab
outside Green Lanes.
(Himjim died a little more inside on, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:42, Reply)

They're mainly fronts for heroin smuggling operations.
There was a massive raid operation about ten years ago and the whole street was closed for business for a fortnight.

I thought it was hilarious.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:44, Reply)

I think Hot Nuts
at the top of the road is funnier!
(Himjim died a little more inside on, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:46, Reply)

i used to live on duckett road
(one of the "ladders" off green lanes). even as a vegetarian, this is true.

also, before 24 hour drinking, when we were pikey students, all the kebabshops had secret rooms at the back where you could carry on drinking.

this being said, green lanes does not have much else to recommend it as a living experience!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:44, Reply)

They should send tourist guides down there
"And this is where Miss Rswipe QC took a steaming dump while vomiting, after a 28 hour drinking session. Please, no photos. On we go!"
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:47, Reply)

sadly
only barristers can take silk.

actually, looking at the rest of your post, that's not sad at all!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:50, Reply)

You've pretty much lived
everywhere in London haven't you?

In regards to 24hr drinking, I've only ever found one fucking place in London where that's possible and it was a noisy twatmagnet.
(Himjim died a little more inside on, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:48, Reply)

ha, not that exciting
as a student i was on the southbank, then manor house, then bromley-by-bow. ever since then it's been hammersmith or kensington.

in my experiences, west is definitely best!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:50, Reply)

That's because there are certain gaps in your experience portfolio.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:51, Reply)

there's an offer to plug my gaps
in there somewhere isn't there?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:53, Reply)

*sighs*
Yes. What some people call 'predictable' I prefer to think of as 'reliable'.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:54, Reply)

God there are loads of them, young man.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:50, Reply)

my flat for one!

( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:50, Reply)

Oh gerrout
You don't have a liscense and I'm not old enough to drink.
(Himjim died a little more inside on, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:52, Reply)

But are they twatmagnets?
I want a place that you can talk, not have "tribal house" pumping or whatever the kids listen to nowadays.
(Himjim died a little more inside on, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:51, Reply)

There's a place down near Aldgate that's pretty decent.
It's also rather 'gangster' so it's a bit scary.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:53, Reply)

By a bit scary
do you mean that a pansy with a silly haircut would get jumped faster than an Grand National hedge?
(Himjim died a little more inside on, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 11:00, Reply)

Don't worry, I'll look after you.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 11:03, Reply)

Theres a place near me that I've left at 7am before
The license doesn't cover it, but no-one checks, and no-one cares.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:58, Reply)

Nigella Lawson
is a classic example of someone who isn't 'skinny' but who I would boff until my cock dropped off.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:47, Reply)

Same for Christina Hendricks

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:48, Reply)

Mine is Susannah Reid, the BBC news presenter.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:48, Reply)

You know you'd get a fabulous breakfast too.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:49, Reply)

She's filth she is
In all the best ways.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:54, Reply)

So you prefer skinny women then?

( girlinthehole, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 10:58, Reply)

My point is 'no I don't'.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 11:03, Reply)

I like breasts
Recent letter to Viz, paraphrased as I don't have it to hand:
"Nigella Lawson recently bemoaned in an interview how busy she is, with her time constantly being taken up by such tasks as looking after the family, filming her TV shows, writing cookbooks and so on. She forgot to add to the list 'getting her tits into her bra.'"
(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 1 Oct 2010, 11:05, Reply)