i always offer because i am too embarrassed not to
but yeah, any decent bloke won't hear of letting the girl pay on a first date in my opinion. if he does, smile sweetly, hand over your card, never telephone him again!

second date onwards it depends - who earns more; if you don't live locally who has paid to travel; who has ordered more expensive drinks etc etc.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 13 Oct 2010, 14:36, 3 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

I'd go along with this
On a first date I will always pay, after that you take circumstances and variables into consideration, but I'll always pay at least half, unless it's been stated as a treat for me.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 13 Oct 2010, 14:37, Reply)

I always pay, except on my birthday when my gf insists on paying.
This was the same before we started living together too. I'm not a particularly chivalrous bloke but it just seems the right thing to do.
(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Wed 13 Oct 2010, 14:39, Reply)

Wiggy pays for me more often than not
but I pay when I can and I took him out for a proper posh steak on his birthday, but I can't really afford to splash the cash all the time.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 13 Oct 2010, 14:45, Reply)

That sounds reasonable

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Wed 13 Oct 2010, 14:46, Reply)

are you being sarcastic and secretly thinking what a sponging whore I am?

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 13 Oct 2010, 14:56, Reply)

No sarcasm. Your set-up sounds exactly like mine.

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Wed 13 Oct 2010, 14:58, Reply)

oh good
I've promised to repay Wiggy when I'm a dragon, so he just has to wait a bit
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 13 Oct 2010, 15:02, Reply)

I always offer
and I wouldn't be offended if they accepted, but on a first date I'd think it was strange, and would definitely take it as a 'they're not interested' factor. Not because of the money, but because there's a certain way of behaving that signifies interest
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 13 Oct 2010, 14:39, Reply)

It's good to offer
I'd hate it if a woman continually refused to offer, but acted like she expected me to pay every time.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 13 Oct 2010, 14:42, Reply)

oh now there's a massive thread to pull
first dates are a minefield of behaviour and misinterpretations of that behaviour! ever seen the "hey, i'll give you a call" episode of "friends", where chandler is trying to dump rachel's boss???
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 13 Oct 2010, 14:43, Reply)

No I haven't seen that. Then again I have a live outside E4 on Sky.

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Wed 13 Oct 2010, 14:46, Reply)

the fact that you know the tv scheduling
Suggests otherwise my fine grunpy friend
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 13 Oct 2010, 14:52, Reply)

absolute minefield
what to wear, what to do, what do you do afterwards etc.

Oh well, not that it's going to be bothering me for a while
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 13 Oct 2010, 14:54, Reply)

and
The more build up there is, the flatter the date will be. You make a real effort and get really excited, it guarantees there will be zero spark. Same principle is true for most nights out actually, maybe it's an expectation thing.

Perhaps all first dates should take place when you have 2 day old hair and gymkit on and only half an hour to spare each other?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 13 Oct 2010, 15:01, Reply)

That's definitely true
Last night I got all dressed up, very little result.

I like that idea. I would also like an anti-shyness pill
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 13 Oct 2010, 15:04, Reply)

I am in dire need of a "just fucking go for it" pill.
At least then I wouldn't waste so much time wondering if I missed my cue.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Wed 13 Oct 2010, 15:24, Reply)

I think half of b3ta
would buy that pill
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 13 Oct 2010, 15:25, Reply)

Thinking about it, have I not just described cocaine?
Ony trouble with that is the side-effect: May render you an insufferable cunt.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Wed 13 Oct 2010, 15:32, Reply)

women like insufferable cunts

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 13 Oct 2010, 15:36, Reply)

Not ALL of them.
I hope.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Wed 13 Oct 2010, 15:41, Reply)