a little bit of my degree
is about gender and queer theory anyway. So I quite like talking about it
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 2:06, 1 reply, 15 years ago)

that's fair enough, I just didn't feel like I could jump in on such a large thread. :S

(Poppet some assembly required., Wed 10 Nov 2010, 2:08, Reply)

also fair :)
it's quite interesting in a strange way.

Probably helps I'm a tiny bit tipsy
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 2:11, Reply)

aha probably!

(Poppet some assembly required., Wed 10 Nov 2010, 2:12, Reply)

I have my chemistry exam tomorrow. I'm supposed to be studying.
I sort of am. sort of.
(Poppet some assembly required., Wed 10 Nov 2010, 2:12, Reply)

Best of luck!
it's the last one, isn't it?
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 2:12, Reply)

yeah thank god for that.
really looking forward to it though. I've studied pretty hard and I'm just ironing out some things now...
(Poppet some assembly required., Wed 10 Nov 2010, 2:14, Reply)

i like you,
lets get drunk and make fun of non queers.
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 2:13, Reply)

I'm well on the way
+ point for using queer
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 2:22, Reply)

that is OUR word.
i won't have it stolen by horrid people.
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 2:30, Reply)

it's on it's way
to be properly claimed back I reckon. Queer is a much better word than just 'gay'
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 2:35, Reply)

i am happy for "gay" to be the schoolyard insult that it always should have been.
it doesn't mean queer like it used to. it is an insult, unattached to sexuality.
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 2:39, Reply)

^this is true
language moves on. I'm a lot happier at retaining queer than worried at saving gay. Queer covers the whole spectrum from non heteronormative heterosexuality and everything else. Whereas gay is just male and just homosexual.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 2:45, Reply)

i still think faggot is a bit horrible,
although i happily use it because i think it is hilarious.
not sure how that works.
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 2:47, Reply)

my favourite euphemism for queers though
is stephen fry's i have "friends who died in the eighties"
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 2:56, Reply)

that is fantastic
I've never heard that one before
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 2:59, Reply)

it was probably still too early for general consumption
up until fairly recently
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 3:04, Reply)

Here's a quick question, then. The barchap in the pub earlier, being of the pinker persuasion
was telling us that 'Queen' refers to the current monarch, whereas the correct spelling for a gay chap is 'Quean' based on Polari or somesuch. Is that a true thing at all? The internets say that the latter refers to ... a lady of negotiable affection, shall we say ...
(BrianHequator was stretching owls, on, or around, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 2:31, Reply)

Quean is actually an Elizabethan term
for a king's whore/mistress type I believe. I could be wrong.

Polari isn't actually that commonly used nowadays as gay slang though
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 2:34, Reply)

that faggot was talking out of his arse

( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 2:40, Reply)

Humph. I shall have a word next time.
Though I still remember the line from "Round the Horne" where Julian and Sandy got shipwrecked, and our Ken said "My word, that sounds terrible. Were you dragged up on deck?"

Answered, by Julian, saying "Oh no, we were in our civvies, weren't we Sands?"

Suit yourselves. ;-)
(BrianHequator was stretching owls, on, or around, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 2:48, Reply)

i do not know what any of that means.
what is "round the home" for starters?
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 2:55, Reply)

Ah. OK. Right.
Have a gander at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round_the_Horne for starters. I'm not so ancient as to have listened to it on the wireless as a nipper, but I remember hearing clips and seeing bits of it referred to on TV.

Being late sixties, the writers managed to get a fair bit of what (then) would probably have been rather close to the knuckle into the script using Polari so that the more knowing listeners would have a bloody good laugh, and the more straight-laced types have a giggle at the funny words. It's worth a listen.

Bona nochy, coves ...
(BrianHequator was stretching owls, on, or around, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 3:04, Reply)

bear in mind, my dad was probably too young to remember that,
not to make you feel old or anything but you are
( Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 3:07, Reply)

*swats you with Freedom Pass*

(BrianHequator was stretching owls, on, or around, Wed 10 Nov 2010, 3:10, Reply)