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Mr Newton sighs, "ever known anyone so spoilt you would love to strangle? I lived with a Paris Hilton-a-like who complained about everything, stomped her feet and whinged till she got her way. There was a happy ending though: she had to drop out of uni due to becoming pregnant after a one night stand..."

Who's the spoiltest person you've met? Has karma come to bite them yet? Or did you in fact end up strangling them? Uncle B3ta (and the serious crimes squad) wants to know.

(, Thu 9 Oct 2008, 14:11)
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I wonder if this has been done..
..Seems rather obvious to me but is a bit different to the other stories I've seen here.

Music lovers are spoilt in this age.. that's my stance. I've got no love for most of the record industry and believe CDs should be going for more like 2 quid than 12, but it's suddenly become nigh-impossible to make any sort of living out of making records, for obvious reasons to do with the internet.

It's not just a financial problem.. Seems that the whole experience of "owning" music has been degraded horribly. In an era when you can attend a fun "file-sharing party" (sounds like a lot of fun) and download 80gb in a few hours, notions of taste and discrimination go out of the window and appreciation of the music plummets. The few remaining vinyl-lovers are mocked and it becomes acceptable to blast whatever Shaz gave you at the weekend through your tinny phone at the bus stop like an aural STD.

I like to get home, make a cup of tea, roll a cigarette, dim the lights.. whatever - make preparations - then select a record from a crate, obsessing over the perfect choice, then sit back and appreciate it fully. After about 20 minutes side one will be over and then you have to flick it back over or choose another record. No-one understands the appeal of that anymore.

So, music-lovers are spoilt. On the flip-side winamp and last fm have served me well for parties and just monging in front of the computer, and I will admit to downloading stuff for free and not feeling guilty about it but.. it leaves a bad taste in my mouth ultimately and I will always go back to my record collection.
(, Tue 14 Oct 2008, 16:49, 13 replies)
There's something very tactile about putting an LP onto the turntable, placing the needle, and listening to the record. Although dust remains the bane of my existence.
(, Tue 14 Oct 2008, 17:12, closed)
oh yeah
Word. Nothing beats the feeling of twelve inches of black in your hands... Seriously I also come from a time when you had to actually go in to town to buy your music. You couldn't buy it all, so you had to listen to it and read reviews and take your chances. And nothing will ever beat sharing the experience of vinyl, there's no dialogue now. Still, having said that I have also sucked at the teat of tinterweb music piracy and it tastes so sweet. Music ten/fifteen/twenty etc years ago was all about precision selections with your hard-earned paper round money. Now its just blanket carpet bombing downloading everything in site and casting it in to the pit of an 80 gig behemoth where gems can lie dormant, unappreciated.
(, Tue 14 Oct 2008, 17:21, closed)
The best thing about vinyl
you can't possibly make a small record player. Or I suppose you could but it'd be pretty awful, incredibly complex and thoroughly unneccesary. And you'd still need to cart the records about.

Anyway, my point is that with all that space required anyway you may as well add on decent speakers- you'll never find a vinyl player with truely godawful mobile phone style speakers.

Music is for enjoying.
(, Tue 14 Oct 2008, 17:34, closed)
Outlaw the mp3 format
Then at least we might be spared the worst of the indie bands (i.e. all of them).
(, Tue 14 Oct 2008, 18:10, closed)
There is nothing wrong with indie bands
Its just the "indie" that you have heard will be the mainstream stuff everyone claims to be indie Eg scouting for girls.

Find some real indie kick back and enjoy.
(, Tue 14 Oct 2008, 21:42, closed)
You may be right there...
Most of the mainstream indie bands (doesn't that defeat the point?) might as well be cover bands for all the ingenuity they show. Minor indie bands tend to be much more interesting...
(, Tue 14 Oct 2008, 23:24, closed)
ah, vinyl
fingerprints don't ruin it, records don't jump, there's none of this "my music comes out of something the size of a postage stamp" bollocks and, of course, the speakers are usually far superior. i've got my favourite '80's song on vinyl. unplayed, untouched, unsullied. perfect.
(, Tue 14 Oct 2008, 18:11, closed)
Aural STD!
^^^ that gets my click!
(, Tue 14 Oct 2008, 20:49, closed)
I am a lad of but 17
and I have just started my record collection. Any mention of it to anyone of my immediate age group treats me as an idiot for it.

there is very little that can beat the sensation of playing a new record for the first time.

Three cheers for picture discs.
(, Tue 14 Oct 2008, 21:40, closed)
Same here.
I just love the art on the covers too - there's just such an aesthetic appeal - no body cares about the covers of protection - back in the day they had some fabulous cover artworks.

And I think Vinyl sounds better too. Just like it more.
(, Wed 15 Oct 2008, 7:49, closed)
i couldnt agree more
I find that i dont listen to my ipod anymore, I find the fact of skipping the tracks makes them seem less worthy of listening to where as actually placing the vinyl on the player has its own mythology about it and it becomes a ritual, something downloading music will never have.
(, Tue 14 Oct 2008, 22:45, closed)
Pity they don't make light weight vinyls.
It's a real bastard having 700 on moving day.
(, Wed 15 Oct 2008, 11:07, closed)

Do you long to start your car with a crank handle too?

Because I think you've got your rose-tinted glasses firmly glued to your face. You're taking what used to inconvenience and annoy everyone in the past, splashing on some nostalgia paint, and acting like they were what made the experience great.

If I were a musician I'd be severely pissed off if everyone thought that they could make themselves settle down in a quiet room to relax and give my music their full attention only if they were forced to by the technology, and not by their own choice.

Twenty years from now you're going to be waxing lyrical about the "appeal" of MP3s and iPods, sneering at everyone else enjoying the music beamed into their brains or somesuch.
(, Wed 15 Oct 2008, 15:26, closed)

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