Lloyd Grossman Cooking Sauce Advert

"I've come to Bologna,Italy, where Bolognese sauce originates to test out my new sauce" Grossman spouts. Or words to that effect. Its the words "where Bolognese sauce originates" that really fuck me off.

I'm not sure what's worse,
That there are fuckwits out there that are so ignorant that they need a tv advert to tell them that Bolognese sauce originates from, wait for it, Bologna!* Wow what a handy coincidence/stroke of luck.

or

There are arse champions in advertising/media that felt the need to indulge the ignorance of the fuckwits by dumbing down television to such an extent that nobody actually needs to think anymore as they are spoon fed all the knowledge they'll ever need like some disgusting thick stupid slop, much like the taste of the Bolognese sauce in question I imagine.

Cunts




*and that Bologna is indeed a place in Italy. I'm surprised they didn't carry on by saying it's near France, in Europe, The World etc
(Don't tell him Pike i'll probably just stay in, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 13:29, 11 replies)

Americans
often reference the country after naming a city because there's frequently a city named after it in America, it's to stop confusion.

Quite why this needs to be done on a British advert, however...
( Kroney, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 13:35, closed)

You mean...
You've never been to Bologna, Cheshire?
( Pretender, Wed 24 Mar 2010, 23:34, closed)

I have much the same reaction,
whenever I catch "*serving suggestion" on the packaging of anything:
What? You mean it *won't* come out of the wrapper piping hot, served on fine bone-china with a sprig of chuffing parsley on the top?!
( Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 14:05, closed)

Bolognese comes from Bologna?

(FUXTIX Not my words, Carol, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 14:20, closed)

could be wrong
but I was informed that that the sauce in question is in fact known as a Ragu........by an Italian nonetheless...I understand the use of the term Bolognese is a British thing. Feel free to disprove, just throwing it into the mix.......
(Purpledoris I've got afeckin' job, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 15:01, closed)

a ragu is a generic term for a meat sauce
in Italian cooking. Bolognese is a very specific ragu from Bologna. However, it bears fuck all relation in reality to anything ever served in this country, or that you can buy in a jar. Mainly because for some reason people seem to think it's a tomato sauce when it isn't.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 16:42, closed)

ragu' alla bolognese
the wonderful thing about italian cuisines is that there is a very specific way to make everything which varies wildly depending on who you ask.
Use carrot, don't use carrot, use onion, don't use onion, use red wine, use white wine, don't use wine, you're using too much meat, there's not enough meat.
I love the italians. Arguing passionately about what's really important: how to make a good pasta sauce.
( Sextant goes to him is emotionally erect, on this day, Wed 24 Mar 2010, 13:55, closed)

I sort of see your point.
But not knowing that there is a place called Bologne isn't really _that_ ignorant, surely? I mean, how many people know what the capital of Pakistan is or that Mad Alice Lane is a street in york (for example)?
(Me, I'm not... in any way intoxicated, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 17:47, closed)

erm is that not the whole point of being ignorant?!
Most people, in my opinion, when hearing a word like bolognese, neapolitan, bengali, burmese, marinara, bavarian, catalonian etc etc when used to describe something else would wonder a) why it was called this and b) what this term meant. Ignorant people just accept what they hear and don't bother to question the things they don't understand, because, well they're ignorant!

I would hope most educated people over the age of say 12 in the UK to know that Islamabad is the capital of Pakistan, the same way as I would expect most educated people of other countries to know that London is the capital of the UK. Sadly as poor general knowledge amongst younger people in this country is not only tolerated, but even worn as a badge of honour as I told in a previous answer to this question, I imagine this is not the case.

As for the street in York you mention, there is a difference between not knowing something because you haven't heard of it before(lack of knowledge) and not knowing the meaning something you hear regularly, like the term 'spaghetti bolognese'(ignorance)
(Don't tell him Pike i'll probably just stay in, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 20:33, closed)

I'm lacking a suitable noun...
I tend to agree with you, but unless you know that the ending "ese" may mean from you're pretty stumped. I wish I could recall a not so obvious noun which turns out to be an adjective.
I suppose what I was getting at is that some of us are lucky enough to know that these names come from places so we take it for granted.
In a reverse of the above, I wouldn't think much less of someone because they didn't know chicken Kiev was from M&S and not the Ukrain.
(Me, I'm not... in any way intoxicated, Wed 24 Mar 2010, 17:56, closed)

There is
a television advertisement currently running in Australia for a specialist sports car insurance company. Blokey Manly Man in the advert asks, "...but did you know that Shannons will also insure your daily drive?" before going on to explain, "That's the car you drive every day."

Thankyou so much Blokey Manly Man! My mind wouldn't have made the effort to interpret the phrase without the help of your lucid explanation.
(Spamuel, Wed 24 Mar 2010, 18:53, closed)