well at least you've opened up now
I can only go on what info you put out there/on here. Which until now was 'I've got technics decks and a pioneer mixer' and 'techno'. May I remind you, you came in and told me I've got a shit taste in music in a thread where I'd titled it 'most people don't like my music'.

I'm sure you can use your decks to make something more technically intricate than a lot of real musicians can but aren't you only manipulating other people's creative output and putting your stamp on it? Using samples and beats and loops and Ableton coupled with a performance pad makes that person more of an orchestral composer and conductor than a musician. A score arranger if you will. Real musicians create content.

My choices in music reflect how I've lived and what music I've learned and played. I'm not calling your taste in music shit, I'm just pointing out that you don't have any legitimate reason to criticise mine even after I've already said it was considered dubious, unless you're the King Of Music and the majority of the world bows to your whims.

There, you've belittled me and I've given back. We're even. Although I dislike your prodigious use of the EDIT button to make your posts seem better after you've first composed them.
( Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana., Fri 31 Dec 2010, 1:18, 1 reply)

And I applaud your use of the edit button.
I used it to change an autocorrect of 'bunches' to 'buggles', seeing as my mobile didn't recognise 'buggles' as a word.

And I don't use Ableton (though it is a wonderful piece of software, as I'm sure you know) and I have never claimed to play techno. I love listening to techno, but I don't play it out.

'Real musicians create content'? What, so a band as pisspoor as, say, Oasis or even (Christ save us) Megadeth are 'better' musicians than, say, DJ Shadow or Squarepusher? Have you heard Endtroducing or Selection Sixteen?

Noone bows to my whims, but if you're going to insinuate dubious claims to being aware of a wide range of music you'd be wise to look a bit further afield than the shit you mention. And nobody in hip hop takes Sean Paul seriously, any more than people in Drum n Bass take Pendulum seriously or people in punk take Green Day seriously. Get a pair of functioning ears.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 31 Dec 2010, 1:37, closed)

Alright, we're trading absolutes here
If nothing else I like you because you don't like Oasis. And I mention Sean Paul because, as I originally posted, he is an example of one amongst many rappers he is the worst for having absolutely no redeeming content whatsoever.

My ears are fine - this is why we (Cat's Mother and I plus Mikeh) run a recording studio. Our ears are just tuned to the rock music spectrum and occasionally beats that stray off the 4/4 metronome, which suits our clientele. Chill off and time to relax the online snappiness and return to where you reside in your angry internet lair. Tomorrow will bring another QOTW answer that you get enraged at.
( Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana., Fri 31 Dec 2010, 2:17, closed)

Oasis- pish pish utter pish
Agreed. I don't mean to sound so cunitsh though- I do get riled when I encounter the old 'you can only like either electronic or acoustic music' thing, which I experience a lot. As I've said, I love all sorts of stuff, from Shellac, Big Black, Sunn O))), Kyuss through to Boards of Canada, Autechre and Goldie.

Also, yes, Sean Paul is gash, but Public Enemy (sampled Slayer), Mos Def (uses a live funk metal band) and Squarepusher (possibly the finest living bass player) are wonderful musicians who may not fit the 'real music/ metal' template, but 'rockers' would love. DJing is another performance medium- I don't read Ballard in the same way I read Ellis, ditto listening to electronic Vs acoustic. Leonard Cohen on the dancefloor would be shit, just as Drums of Death in a gin sodden 4 am introspection ting wouldn't work.

Don't assume that because I appreciate Richard D James I can't/ won't/ don't appreciate Steve Albini.

Weirdly, that sort of music snobbery really really riles the fuck out of me. Why is 'performed' music any more valid than electronic music? That is akin to thinking that writing produced via a typewriter is more 'real' than writing produced from a laptop.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 31 Dec 2010, 2:31, closed)

Yeh, but Technics an instrument?
You're having a larf innit.

It's a record player. When it's something you can get graded for playing, I might believe you.

'What instrument do you play?'
'Dansette'

Hmm...
( His Popiness the Hole Invaded Poland on, Fri 31 Dec 2010, 14:43, closed)

Turntables are an instrument.
Check out the Scratch Perverts:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqvWrK_jf3w

Or Kentaro:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJLQG0TAp_s&feature=related

Or Kid Koala playing Moon River:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouFjqeo0f34&feature=related

or drunk trumpet: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia5oK4PCCoM
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 31 Dec 2010, 16:33, closed)

Nope
I've had a look, does nowt for me, looks like a bunch of blokes fucking about with other peoples music.

If it's an instrument, it's for playing records on.

I once saw some Formula One techie playing about with a car and he got the engine notes to play 'God Save The Queen'. It doesn't make it a musical instrument, it's still a car.

I refer you to my previous reply.
( His Popiness the Hole Invaded Poland on, Fri 31 Dec 2010, 17:00, closed)

So you missed the bit where the Perverts were scratching without any records?
Using the platter, stylus and mixer to make music?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 31 Dec 2010, 17:53, closed)

Music?
I thought that music had a melody, you know, like a tune, a rhythm and a beat. I've played guitar for about 20 years and that's what I've been led to believe. I've just watched the Perverts vid all the way through and that's 6 minutes of my life wasted.
The bit you refer to was random clicks and buzzes, not music. If you think that's music, you should watch a video of the Clangers. You'll have an orgasm.
( His Popiness the Hole Invaded Poland on, Sat 1 Jan 2011, 16:27, closed)

i would just like you to know
i'm laughing like a twat at this
( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Thu 6 Jan 2011, 0:55, closed)