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So the WHO have declared Pandemic (phase 6)
www.who.int/en/

About fucking time, too. Out of curiosity, is anybody working in a place where they've got instant access to this stuff? One of my friends who works for GSK was telling me about Relenza.

Alternative question: Is your next holiday going to be British or abroad, given the signs that the £ is slowly getting stronger?
(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:01, archived)
Well from playing Pandemic, I know it's fucking hard to eliminate everyone.
Australia usually survives. I suggest heading there.

Edit: the majority of cases have occurred in people under the age of 25 years.


Arses. I'm not leaving the house now. I've got lots of books. I can survive it.
(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Cleo still alive, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:03, archived)
President Madagascar! A man in Brazil has sneezed!
shut
down
EVERYTHING
(I helped save b3ta! ArthurTheRat, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:04, archived)
Arses. I was halfway through typing that before I saw that :(

(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:04, archived)
They also survive well.
Those off the coast of africa no-legal-sex until 21 bastards.
(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Cleo still alive, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:04, archived)
Australia? That's easy to infect!
Madagascar is the arse, unless you cheat and refresh the game until you start there.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:04, archived)
It's the arse, but not impossible
Start with rodents so it hits the sea ports. It only seems to get ships from NZ though.
(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:05, archived)
I once killed everyone, including Madagascar except australia and iceland.
Bastards closed off their ports early, and I'd gotten carried by rats and one of the air or waterbourne, can't remember which.
(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Cleo still alive, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:06, archived)
What the shit is this game, David?

(I helped save b3ta! mike woz ere 7442200 & 7696970 getter, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:15, archived)
Pandemic
www.crazymonkeygames.com/jkf6Tr/pandemic2.swf (though that's Pandemic 2)
(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:15, archived)
ERM, IS YOUR NAME DAVID?

(I helped save b3ta! mike woz ere 7442200 & 7696970 getter, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:16, archived)
No, it isn't
But if you ask something on a forum, then more than one person might reply. Shocking really.
(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:17, archived)

www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post448420
(I helped save b3ta! Gilgamesh gazed in wonder as Frampton came alive, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:24, archived)
it's hardly even killed anyone,
and nearly all the ones it has were in Mexico.
I'm not worried. It's just the 'flu.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:09, archived)
i'm heading to Greenland

(I helped save b3ta! well, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:15, archived)
No.
Abroad, once I've paid this overdraft off.
(I helped save b3ta! moohalaa, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:03, archived)
The strength or weakness of the pound has exactly zero effect on my holidays.

(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:03, archived)
Is that because you also want to know the local inflation rate before you are able to draw any conclusions
about the purchasig power of your holiday spends in different locations?
(I helped save b3ta! Neptune A dole queue dosser and foul mouthed chav., Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:06, archived)
Among numerous other things.

(I helped save b3ta! Neptune A dole queue dosser and foul mouthed chav., Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:07, archived)
yay for pandemics

(I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:04, archived)
Aren't you of the ilk that believes this virus was man-made?
I remember Alex Jones saying 'OMGOMHOMG', then 'nothing to worry about' and suddenly it's phase 6.
(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:07, archived)
you're correct, i believe it was man made

(I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:09, archived)
And mercury in injections causing autism, am I right?
(Are you a truther?)
(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:10, archived)
yes

(I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:11, archived)
I can never tell if you're serious or not anymore.
Hopefully you're joking.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:12, archived)
i am quite serious

(I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:12, archived)
Haha.
And presumably all historical pandemics have been man made too? I didn't realise we'd had that technology for so long.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:14, archived)
i don't know

(I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:15, archived)
I remember having a look at the Icke forum back when he was the compo.
It was very amusing. Apparently it was clearly man-made and meant to destroy humanity/certain races or whatever, and when it became obvious it wasn't very deadly, this was apparently evidence that 'the man' had failed to make it powerful enough.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:18, archived)
i don't agree with that

(I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:19, archived)
When the result of deaths were Mexicans and that Mexican kid
It arose that it MUST be aimed at Mexicans!
(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:20, archived)
Their master said
'It's like they've mixed three different types of flu'
(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:16, archived)
Bubonic Plague was summoned into existence
by the invocation of demons.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:22, archived)
it was me
sorry
(I helped save b3ta! Lightguy hail satan, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:23, archived)
YOU BASTARD

(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:24, archived)
Well at least you've apologised.

(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:25, archived)
My other half is one, heh

(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:13, archived)

:(
(I helped save b3ta! Jobe, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:04, archived)
I work for the NHS
So I'm safe. We're well corrupt, lol!! I got a stem cell sandwich for lunch from the canteen and I gave the old dear a fiver, then told her I gave her a tenner so made a profit and extended my life. Crazy shit, yo.
(I helped save b3ta! Imhotep is Invisible - Consider this a divorce, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:04, archived)
I just had a (very expensive) holiday abroad.

(I helped save b3ta! mike woz ere 7442200 & 7696970 getter, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:05, archived)
Does this mean you are well off, or very poor?

(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:06, archived)
Well it should have been £8,000 but my friend is a travel agent so I got it for £6,000

(I helped save b3ta! mike woz ere 7442200 & 7696970 getter, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:07, archived)
I took the private jet though.

(I helped save b3ta! mike woz ere 7442200 & 7696970 getter, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:06, archived)
Have you got your sunglasses?

(I helped save b3ta! WHARRGARBL, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:07, archived)
Pete Townshend think's he knows everything.
abroad, going to spain.
(King Baby Duck more than a ceiling, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:08, archived)
As a vital front line health worker*, I should be near the front of the queue for vaccines and such.
*background worker mostly avoiding patients
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:10, archived)
'By Christmas' is when it's due, apparently
The second wave will probably have killed us all by then.
(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:12, archived)
It seems to be about as serious as regular flu.
People do die from it, but generally old people or people with poor immune systems.
I'm not worrying.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:13, archived)
Well, people are in intensive care with no underlying problems
I'm not too worried, I'll worry more when Madagascar gets it. (Joke)

But I do know one or two people with it who feel like they've got 'the cold of all colds'.
(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:15, archived)
Yep, that's what flu feels like.
People can end up in intensive care from a simple cold, these things happen.
Looking at the statistics, it's not worth worrying about. Yet, anyway.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:16, archived)
I agree
But this is going to cause some agitation. I saw a bloke in King's Cross station wearing a mask about 2 weeks ago.
(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:19, archived)
Maybe. Depends how the media plays it.
From what I've seen today, they've been very eager to point out 'pandemic' doesn't mean doom.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:21, archived)
Mercifully so
There was almost a media blackout once a fair few people had it though.

But yes, like many people say, we're much more prepared this time, so hopefully the casualties will be the bare minimum.
(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:22, archived)
bollocks.
Even Spanish Flu didn't wipe us all out, and we didn't have antivirals back then, or much knowledge of viruses at all, or well-equipped state-funded hospitals and medical research facilities.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:16, archived)
Have you heard of exaggeration?!
Of course it's not going to wipe us all out. We have antibiotics which will probably cure most of the pneumonia that arises as a second result.
(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:18, archived)
I've heard of you coming out with incredibly stupid things.

(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:19, archived)
Likewise.
But your well-equipped state-funded hospitals haven't done much of a job with MRSA, have they?

Sure, they'll probably be more alert with a pandemic, but still, they're not magicians.
(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:21, archived)
Yes, they've done a fantastic job.
MRSA lives very happily on healthy people's skin, it's easily spread and resistant to various treatments.
It's very difficult to stop it getting around.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:23, archived)
Aye
right after all the undercover news reports about people slacking off.

Either way, we have to put our trust in these people; but NHS Direct are telling people with flu-like symptoms to go to a+e.*

*Three people I know have been sent to A+E
(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:28, archived)
a friend of ours was actually isolated after displaying 'flu-like symptoms,
but it turned out he didn't have it.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:29, archived)
hand hygene and proper cleaning help to stop it spreading
but between 3 and 7% of people have it and dont know
they then go out into the community and spread it about
It's not just a hospital problem
(MRSA that is)
(I helped save b3ta! Giant bunny jumping out like a large happy tourettes rabbit, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:31, archived)
Actually, much of the news coverage was based on a single bloke running a lab out of his back garden.
All the positive tests for MRSA from things like doorhandles, windowsills etc came from his lab, and couldn't be replicated in real labs.
This isn't to say it's not a real issue, which does kill people and is dealt with seriously, but much of the media circus was based on a single phoney.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:31, archived)
Ah, that's interesting, I din't know that
I was saying a similar argument with the report 11 years ago with autism being caused by mercury, and how (as far as I know, more might have been released) nobody could replicate this, and how the only girl who got compo was the girl with the mitochondrial disorder.

Got to love the media.
(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:35, archived)
This probably explains it better than I did.
www.badscience.net/2005/11/how-many-microbiologists-does-it-take-to-change-a-tabloid-story/
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:43, archived)
MRSA isn't an international emergency that threatens all human life.

(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:23, archived)
*sigh*
I did just imply that by saying "they'll probably be more alert with a pandemic"
(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:25, archived)
"more alert" hardly covers it.
MRSA isn't in the same league.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:28, archived)
You're assuming that the pneumonia will be bacterial...

(I helped save b3ta! Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:22, archived)
Yes, I am, not the best idea
But bacterial infections are common with colds and flu, not just pneumonia.
(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:24, archived)
British,
in about a week.
I don't have a passport anyway.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:10, archived)
Oooh, where are you going?

(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:16, archived)
the highlands,
with a tent.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:17, archived)
I'd like to go camping like that at one point.

(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Cleo still alive, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:20, archived)
Sounds lovely!
God knows what I'm doing this year, but most likely it'll be in the UK
(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:26, archived)
I suggest having a nice walk along the canals.
It's quite a nice thing to do.
(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Cleo still alive, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:32, archived)
Yep, I agree
I was walking along the canal in London from Islington (or around there) to Camden lock after going clubbing one morning. It was lovely; so green and bright.
(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:37, archived)
going to the beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeach
*excites*
started tanning yesterday to prepare, otherwise I'll die of sun poisoning
(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:29, archived)
Yes I knew about this last thursday
edit: the phase 6 thing, don't care about the £ thing at the moment.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:30, archived)
The meeting was today about discussing it
They never said it was or wasn't going to be.
(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:36, archived)
Yes but it was a forgone conclusion based on the forecasted infection rates
and their definitions of the phases.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:37, archived)
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(I helped save b3ta! Methylene Blue - electrohead, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:38, archived)
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(I helped save b3ta! The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:34, archived)
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(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 18:39, archived)
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