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This is a link post PETA are more into animal killing than you are
"The group euthanized 2,454 of its 3,369 cats, dogs and other animals, the vast majority of which were "owner surrenders," meaning that they'd been relinquished to the group voluntarily. Just 23 dogs and 16 cats were adopted."

so PETA are beneath contempt
 (I helped save b3ta! colmcq2, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 12:39, Reply)
This is a normal post Much as I think PETA are a terrible organisation this story being wheeled out again and again annoys me more
Of course they euthanize animals, they're the last stop for many abused pets.
many animals will have suffered to the point of no return, or simply be unsuitable for rehoming because years of being tormented have made them unstable and dangerous animals.
Yes the owners relinquished them but that's because a court probably told them to.

Also the whole PETA kills animals campaign is put out by the pro animal testing/tobacco/cancer/drink/dodgy medicine lobbyists.
From the official campaign page -
"PETA Kills Animals" is a project of the Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF), a nonprofit organization dedicated to protecting the full range of choices that American consumers currently enjoy. In addition to malicious animal-rights activists, we stand up to the "food police," environmental scaremongers, neo-prohibitionists, meddling bureaucrats, and other self-anointed saints who claim to "know what's best" for you."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Consumer_Freedom now THEY are cunts
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 13:31, Reply)
This is a normal post all of them

(I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 13:44, Reply)
This is a normal post "Environmental scaremongers"
They sound suspiciously like climate change is something they scoff at. I see also they have a problem with "Mothers Against Drunk Drivers," which seems, well, twisted and moronic, given it's no one's 'right' to be in charge of a vehicle when they under the effect of booze.
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 14:02, Reply)
This is a normal post I assumed that they were pushing for a change in the law so that they can all be let off drunk-driving charges.
Obviously, on the grounds that their judgement was too clouded to have properly consented to get behind the wheel of the car, and it was therefore all the car's fault.
 (I helped save b3ta! joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 14:25, Reply)
This is a normal post I think the gist of most libertarian campaigns against drink driving laws is that
It's your judgement if you're safe to drive. If you cause an accident drunk or sober you are held responsible. If you don't then you've done nothing wrong.
 (I helped save b3ta! wakeupandsmellthebacon, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 15:05, Reply)
This is a normal post I think I was being a bit too subtle in my mockery of the law regarding responsibilities
for 'consenting' to various activities whilst drunk.
 (I helped save b3ta! joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 17:31, Reply)
This is a normal post So, under what conditions can I kill an animal?
Not if it helps medical science, or feeds people cheaply, or allows for proper smashing dayglo makeup?
 (I helped save b3ta! gaijintendo Regular Member, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 14:18, Reply)
This is a normal post
from below "There are plenty of animal rescue charities with No Kill policies.
So, yeah PETA are hypocritical cunts of the highest order."
 (I helped save b3ta! colmcq2, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 17:34, Reply)
This is a normal post It could well be that they're BOTH a bunch of cunts...

(I helped save b3ta! joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 14:27, Reply)
This is a normal post There are plenty of animal rescue charities with No Kill policies.
So, yeah PETA are hypocritical cunts of the highest order.
 (UltimateMonkey Ban this sick filth!, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 15:00, Reply)
This is a normal post of course there are, lots of "charities" are just old ladies making a few quid temporarily taking in healthy strays
They don't deal with animal who have life threatening injuries or are suffering from a terminal illness, they tend to ship those to a vet off site who does the euthenizing for them.
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 15:27, Reply)
This is a normal post I will collect donations in a bucket,
then find the cats and put them in my bucket with the lid on.
 (robneymcplum spiced up his life on, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 16:11, Reply)
This is a normal post Actually I am more into animal killing than PETA
but they have the organisation and resources.

It's not all about zeal you know. Logistics are important!
 (tacpprm has a mmrpcat, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 15:20, Reply)
This is a link post bitch im madonna shred
pretty much how it should sound
(I helped save b3ta! colmcq2, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 12:21, Reply)
This is a normal post
Great but over half of that is adverts for their channel.
 (Oswald Mosley (((triggering))) right wing cunts on, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 12:29, Reply)
This is a normal post that sucked
you can guess i clicked off before i realised
 (I helped save b3ta! colmcq2, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 17:37, Reply)
This is a normal post
No worries, I was just happy there was no Japanese content in the link ;)
 (Oswald Mosley (((triggering))) right wing cunts on, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 17:55, Reply)
This is a normal post such a talented skank

(I helped save b3ta! buffet_the_appetite_slayer ٩(●̮̃•)۶ jacked in to the ICE on, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 12:41, Reply)
This is a normal post I thought this video was excellent.
Excellent.
 (I helped save b3ta! Extinct Jesus Dossier "...I think it counteracts Hitler's magic...", Fri 25 Sep 2015, 13:51, Reply)
This is a normal post LOVELY STUFF
sorry for shouting
LOVELY STUFF
quite stunning to see MADONNA THERE
 (Twisted Technic .. as if, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 16:29, Reply)
This is a normal post Haha. That puts some perspective on it..

(I helped save b3ta! cowcat Bituminous squeegee, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 17:13, Reply)
This is a normal post i read that quickly as
"bitch im on a shed"

clicked play

was disapointed at the lack of sheds
 (Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 17:54, Reply)
This is a normal post What did they do to this?
I can't tell the difference.
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 20:22, Reply)
This is a link post Nice little timeline thingy about British animation
Got to love the angry letters from adults disgusted that Magic Roundabout was moved to an earlier timeslot.
 (UltimateMonkey Ban this sick filth!, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:37, Reply)
This is a link post Sega Golden Axe emulator
I loved this as a teenager. Unquestionably shit by today's standards but meh.
 (theswollenbeef where there's a will there's a wank, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:34, Reply)
This is a normal post Bloody ace game!

(Spin Its a thing., Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:45, Reply)
This is a normal post If you get the MAME version and play it mulitplayer its still fun

(I helped save b3ta! DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:46, Reply)
This is a normal post This
Spent a load of time on this back at college back in the day, bloody great nostalgia when I got hold of Mame and a load of the old arcades I used to play. Still haven't built myself a cab yet mind.

Any love here for Valtrec? Used to love that bugger.
 (_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_(_ =o.o=, Sat 26 Sep 2015, 14:36, Reply)
This is a normal post on the topic of old games being shit, here's an interesting analysis of Sonic the Hedgehog
and how bad it actually was
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYDsz1NFBJw

Yet for some reason there are several pages of sonic games on that emulator site..
 (I helped save b3ta! mutated monty, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:56, Reply)
This is a normal post Its still good
Spent an afternoon playing it again last year (on the hexbocks 360) .
 (I helped save b3ta! DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 12:03, Reply)
This is a normal post the thing i always found annoying with sonic
was that you could complete the levels just by holding right and randomly running/rolling. You could never really do that to the same extent in Mario. Also at times Sonic went so fast that whatever you did on the joypad wouldn't affect him getting killed or not
 (theswollenbeef where there's a will there's a wank, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 12:04, Reply)
This is a normal post To be fair, lots of people share this opinion,
having only played a few levels of the first zone of the first game, got bored, and then played something else.
There are trickier platforming bits in all the games, and the rotating bonus stages are bastards.
 (I helped save b3ta! joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 12:27, Reply)
This is a normal post The rotating bonus sections were brilliant
The trick to the later levels was getting your lives up to about 50 in the Green Hills stages (or whatever the first set of levels were called)
 (I helped save b3ta! DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 12:38, Reply)
This is a normal post i remember being able to play the first level of sonic with my feet
and yet as soon as you stop moving the physics are so sluggish its like walking through treacle
 (I helped save b3ta! mutated monty, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 12:32, Reply)
This is a normal post Nothing wrong with sonic
Singling it out as crap is silly, you could do the same with pretty much any one of them old ones.
 (I helped save b3ta! --- ---, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 13:50, Reply)
This is a link post The Warriors: Last Subway Ride Home
The gang from The Warriors reunite for one last ride to their old stomping grounds
(I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:34, Reply)
This is a normal post That makes me feel very old :(

(I helped save b3ta! DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:46, Reply)
This is a normal post Doesn't it just

(I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:59, Reply)
This is a normal post Yep, me to. But the MUSIC!!

(I helped save b3ta! da5id <YOUR SIG HERE>, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 17:19, Reply)
This is a normal post Disappointed.
I was waiting for the "come out to play-yay" part.
 (I helped save b3ta! Mastarbeiter came into your mind on, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 12:22, Reply)
This is a link post Some fucked up shit

(hieronymus bosch pcmechanic 4ver in ar harts, goodnite sweet angle, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:31, Reply)
This is a normal post hahahaha I was almost sold in to slavery hahaha

(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:35, Reply)
This is a normal post
Yeah the guy on the left - WTF!
 (Oswald Mosley (((triggering))) right wing cunts on, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:39, Reply)
This is a normal post Like OMG

(I helped save b3ta! spazzcaptain Misses Valin @, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:43, Reply)
This is a normal post What the fuck was that on the left? A cue tip?

(Spin Its a thing., Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:54, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm sure she'll be completely safe from exploitation in the world of modelling

(dyllon nice beaver., Fri 25 Sep 2015, 16:06, Reply)
This is a normal post She does have a fantastic pair of legs.

(I helped save b3ta! Varmint, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 19:37, Reply)
This is a normal post No great loss
So the world loses one more vapid clothes horse.
 (Turgidtank willing to learn since, Sat 26 Sep 2015, 21:21, Reply)
This is a link post Tom Jones and Wilson Pickett being cool.
It's my candles day so have this. It has that same feeling for me as 'La Mer' does in Tinker Sailor Soldier Spy. Love you all x
(I helped save b3ta! magictoast, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 10:42, Reply)
This is a normal post Happiest of candles

(I helped save b3ta! herd of chickens First part only £1.99 and comes with a free, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:11, Reply)
This is a normal post Cappy Handles!

(I helped save b3ta! Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:11, Reply)
This is a normal post Happy CandleSquirtMas

(I helped save b3ta! wakeupandsmellthebacon, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:17, Reply)
This is a normal post Are you Happys brother?

(Spin Its a thing., Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:35, Reply)
This is a normal post I am
HIS FATHER...Well, technically we have to wait for that whole Jeremy Kyle test thing to occur but it's a given really...
 (I helped save b3ta! magictoast, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:48, Reply)
This is a normal post You been 'spreading' it about again?

(Spin Its a thing., Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:54, Reply)
This is a normal post It's the 'preserve' of the promiscuous.

(I helped save b3ta! magictoast, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 12:05, Reply)
This is a normal post I wish I knew which entertainment group distributed that clip
well, I guess we'll never know
 (theswollenbeef where there's a will there's a wank, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:38, Reply)
This is a normal post Superb!
Also, happy candles!
 (I helped save b3ta! Mastarbeiter came into your mind on, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 12:09, Reply)
This is a link post PETA being c**ts just for the sake of it


They've sued the guy whose camera got that monkey* selfie, so the copyright now belongs to the animal. All a bit of fun? Well, no: he's lost earnings, he's been humiliated and harassed through the courts, and the ruling has big implications for all wildlife photography.

Oh, yes, and the poor bastard had actually helped PETA in the past, and is a known animal lover.

* yes I know it's not a monkey
 (I helped save b3ta! Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 10:32, Reply)
This is a normal post doesn't make any sense
they've no chance of winning, so why do it other than to waste their own funds?

Sure if the guy got rich off the photo it would make sense to ask him to donate to the species protection, but why be a dick about it?
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 10:36, Reply)
This is a normal post Publicity
And being cunts.
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 10:41, Reply)
This is a normal post Even if the hairy little dude is awarded copyright,
PETA shouldn't be allowed to administer it for him, they ought to be allowed to fuck off instead.
 (eViLegion Chief Commissioner of the Scottish Lunacy Board, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:02, Reply)
This is a normal post PETA are like Greenpeace but with more self-righteous twats.

(I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:35, Reply)
This is a normal post They don't seem to do anything risky either.
They just steal puppies off terrified crying homeless people
 (eViLegion Chief Commissioner of the Scottish Lunacy Board, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:54, Reply)
This is a normal post how could that be possible?
new technology?
 (I helped save b3ta! tickle I was away, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 17:18, Reply)
This is a normal post The ironic thing is this was probably never a selfie
He claimed it was a selfie when the whole, retarded 'selfie' phenomena was caught on by the media, and would have seemed like an easy way to generate publicity for his work. How that's all backfired.

He was also using Nikon cameras, which have buttons all over the place. I think his were D4's so i'm personally highly dubious this primate picked one of them up and got that shot itself
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 10:40, Reply)
This is a normal post Just when it seemed safe to leave a troop of monkeys for an infinite amount of time
in a room with pianos to come up with Happy Birthday
 (I helped save b3ta! Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:25, Reply)
This is a normal post *
*Yes, it is actually a monkey. Macaques are monkeys.

And PETA are cunts. They'll probably decide that the monkey needs to be put down, but not before he makes a legally binding will granting all rights to PETA.
 (I helped save b3ta! joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 12:19, Reply)
This is a normal post hahahaha

(I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 18:21, Reply)
This is a link post Drunk man walking
some of the time.
(robneymcplum spiced up his life on, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 10:10, Reply)
This is a normal post
"This video is blocked by a bunch of cnuts from The Sun, even though they didn't filum it and are basically theives" or something.
 (I helped save b3ta! DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 10:23, Reply)
This is a normal post
yeah, got to watch on youtube I think.

Just right click title/open in new tab
 (robneymcplum spiced up his life on, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 10:47, Reply)
This is a normal post
No thanks I think Murdoch has enough money.
 (Oswald Mosley (((triggering))) right wing cunts on, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 15:08, Reply)
This is a normal post The bit where the guy walking passed him steps out of his way as he falls head first into a tree
and carried on walking, a bit grim
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 12:22, Reply)
This is a normal post the drunk guy,
is more than likely the town oddbod, so people tend to avoid.
 (robneymcplum spiced up his life on, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 12:49, Reply)
This is a normal post Donno
That bloke seemed to be wasted but trying not to be. Town pissheads don't bother trying not looking like they're wasted and go with the flow. He also looked quite smart, so I reckon he's got wasted somewhere and is unaccustomed to the state he's now in
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 14:07, Reply)
This is a normal post Round my way,
If a drunk is falling, you let him fall.

I've had abuse and been threatened more than once helping pissed men and women who shout that they are 'FUCKIN ALREET DONT NEED YOUR HELP AL LEATHER YOU' and then get angry, try to throw a punch and fall over again.
 (robneymcplum spiced up his life on, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 14:41, Reply)
This is a link post Elmo, Big Bird and Mr Snuffleupagus sing a little song

(I helped save b3ta! herd of chickens First part only £1.99 and comes with a free, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 10:05, Reply)
This is a normal post delightful.
thought he said Snuffy dick-fart
 (Twisted Technic .. as if, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 16:28, Reply)
This is a normal post Funnier
than it should have been
 (I helped save b3ta! An Egg ,D, Sat 26 Sep 2015, 19:07, Reply)
This is a link post NSFW - Serial self-publicist George Galloway reads out nutter txt on Talk Sport NSFW
He speaks a lot and says little but has a good turn of phrase - made me laugh anyway. I like it when a caller bumbles along with some well meaning, but ultimately misguided thought and then says something like...
(I helped save b3ta! transparenttown Dead to worse..., Fri 25 Sep 2015, 10:00, Reply)
This is a normal post I like the Galloway bits on Dead Ringers.
Did you know he is the beloved leader of the Islamic state of Bradford?
 (I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:37, Reply)
This is a link post The Jeremy Corbyn Shipping Forecast
The polished vocals are spot on.
 (I helped save b3ta! antmulder Flick your icefloss, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 9:39, Reply)
This is a normal post Oh now that IS good.

(eViLegion Chief Commissioner of the Scottish Lunacy Board, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 9:55, Reply)
This is a normal post showers Mensch
LOL
 (I helped save b3ta! buffet_the_appetite_slayer ٩(●̮̃•)۶ jacked in to the ICE on, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:14, Reply)
This is a normal post Bwahaha!
Nicely.
 (I helped save b3ta! .Yeti., Fri 25 Sep 2015, 12:55, Reply)
This is a link post Star Trek Convention

(I helped save b3ta! Mastarbeiter came into your mind on, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 9:22, Reply)
This is a normal post
**Warning** Contains Merkin level humour
 (Oswald Mosley (((triggering))) right wing cunts on, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:43, Reply)
This is a normal post Isn't it Merkin Humour Friday today?

(I helped save b3ta! Mastarbeiter came into your mind on, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 12:07, Reply)
This is a normal post they don't like to end on anything nasty, the yanks

(I helped save b3ta! cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 15:36, Reply)
This is a link post Useful little GIF
"Hitler should be struck regularly, like a gong." Noel Coward.
 (I helped save b3ta! tubaman, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 6:11, Reply)
This is a link post Busking with principles
"Give if you can, take if you need"
(Tivert, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 4:38, Reply)
This is a link post When you think one of your favourite bands has sold out (specifically music in adverts) NSFW
Henry Rollins will be there to tear you a new one..
NSFW for a couple of f-bombs.
(Tivert, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 4:18, Reply)
This is a normal post That was a great show.
I liked it.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgSBhlw-o9E
 (I helped save b3ta! cowcat Bituminous squeegee, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 5:07, Reply)
This is a normal post meh

(I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 9:04, Reply)
This is a normal post That's wrong.
Real artists get their music streamed on Spotify:
www.digitalmusicnews.com/2015/09/24/my-song-was-played-178-million-times-on-spotify-i-was-paid-5679/
 (I helped save b3ta! Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 9:29, Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah
One of my tracks has has over 39,000 streams, I got 2,98 euros for that.
It works out at about 23,000 plays for a quid.
 (I helped save b3ta! quackpipe swings like a pendulum do, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 12:47, Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah....still selling out and I would rather hear generic music...
..then we are under no illusion. If a artist wants to do music specifically for an ad they can go right ahead. I mean where would it end.
 (I helped save b3ta! transparenttown Dead to worse..., Fri 25 Sep 2015, 9:31, Reply)
This is a normal post I prefer Nick Cave's response to the question
"People have been married to my music ... and I just don't think it would be very cool for them to switch on the TV and 'The Ship Song' comes on a Cornetto ad or something."

To be fair, people aren't going to have the same emotional attachment to a Henry Rollins song.
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 12:17, Reply)
This is a normal post What a twat
Nick Cave sold "Red Right Hand" (or whatever that maudlin rubbish he spits out is called) to advertise South Australian tourism here in Victoria, Aus. Admittedly, the song fits. If you ever wanted to slit your wrists, SA and Nick Cave are the perfect combo. Sorry for rant, just can't stand hypocrites.
 (Turgidtank willing to learn since, Sat 26 Sep 2015, 21:37, Reply)
This is a normal post aye right.
I'd take generic lift music in ads in place of snippets of tunes i love played over and over until the original sounds like an ad.
 (I helped save b3ta! tickle I was away, Sun 27 Sep 2015, 8:52, Reply)
This is a link post Emotions of Pixar
God damn you, Pixar
(I helped save b3ta! sinisterduck, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 0:30, Reply)
This is a normal post the new Grand Masters

(I helped save b3ta! Elvis impersonator, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 0:57, Reply)
This is a normal post Bit too long for what it's trying to achieve.
And if one is going to edit in voice-over dialog clips,
do it during a FUCKING INSTRUMENTAL bit in the music, not over other lyrics!
 (I helped save b3ta! joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 12:33, Reply)
This is a link post Zeus caught on CCTV throwing thunderbolts at bus in Russian street.

(I helped save b3ta! buffet_the_appetite_slayer ٩(●̮̃•)۶ jacked in to the ICE on, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 22:00, Reply)
This is a normal post The heck?
Was that an LPG tank bursting or something?
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 22:11, Reply)
This is a normal post I think it was just the driver's vodka intake, tbh.

(I helped save b3ta! Fray Brentos *mega-belms*, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 22:28, Reply)
This is a normal post Still milking the candles I see
You dirty candle fecker ;)
 (I helped save b3ta! spazzcaptain Misses Valin @, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 22:30, Reply)
This is a normal post Fuck off, you no-candled cunt.

(I helped save b3ta! Fray Brentos *mega-belms*, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 22:55, Reply)
This is a normal post I actually feel inferior to your candle superiority.

(I helped save b3ta! cowcat Bituminous squeegee, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 23:18, Reply)
This is a normal post Carrying Michael Bay?

(pahakyy, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 0:32, Reply)
This is a normal post It's just a little seepage!

(I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 8:20, Reply)
This is a normal post I like the way
the driver casually exits his torching vehicle like a boss. And his co-accidentee runs for the feckin hills.
 (mersault, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 12:55, Reply)
This is a link post Derinkuyu (an underground city which could accommodate up to 20,000 people)
The tunnels were rediscovered in 1963, after a resident of the area found a mysterious room behind a wall in his home

goo.gl/JsEzhE
 (I helped save b3ta! zacherynuk @echo off, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 21:12, Reply)
This is a normal post Love stuff like this. Clicky

(I helped save b3ta! Fray Brentos *mega-belms*, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 22:24, Reply)
This is a normal post CANDLES!
old bastard XD
 (I helped save b3ta! --- ---, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 23:41, Reply)
This is a normal post Here is the brilliant "sometimes interesting" article on Derinkuyu
sometimes-interesting.com/2014/05/09/derinkuyu-the-underground-cities-of-cappadocia/
 (I helped save b3ta! DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 9:46, Reply)
This is a link post Mr Biffo - Old Games Are The Worst
The writer of Pudsey The Dog: The Movie being spot on about how retro-style indie games are usually far better for nostalgia than the real deal.
(I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 21:01, Reply)
This is a normal post Yes.

(I helped save b3ta! drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 21:11, Reply)
This is a normal post I defy anyone to find a better game than this though
youtube.com/watch?v=xoDXL4HEaKY
 (I helped save b3ta! drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 22:08, Reply)
This is a normal post How about a Finnish bloke reviewing...
...Graeme Sounness Vector Soccer!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4waGl0lZxbs
 (I helped save b3ta! Fray Brentos *mega-belms*, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 22:30, Reply)
This is a normal post no way is that a real game :O

(I helped save b3ta! drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 23:27, Reply)
This is a normal post although vector games were commonplace
'Zeewolf', one of my faves back in the day:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dphbGMn9So
 (I helped save b3ta! drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 23:29, Reply)
This is a normal post
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxmvPmNvsAk
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 23:43, Reply)
This is a normal post FUCK. Mr Biffo wrote Pudsey the Dog: the Movie?
Rose, you have messed up.

I cuss you bad.

What a moc-moc-a-mockery.
 (Jimbotfu Bummed in the gob again, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 21:16, Reply)
This is a normal post He wrote this about it
www.digitiser2000.com/main-page/panel-4-both-sides-of-the-fence
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 21:29, Reply)
This is a normal post Interesting, if depressing read.
Seems it was a shit film made cheaply to cynically cash in on high-profile banality.
The fact it was aimed at kids makes it all the ickier. It's a cinematic turkey twizzler.

No deeper conspiracy in the negative reaction.

Shame Biffo felt hard done by, but what did he expect? I imagine it was a paycheck for everyone involved. They didn't set out to make a bad film, but I can't imagine they really cared about making a good one either.

Complaining that the critics attacked it for being a corporate product inextricably linked to Simon Cowell is...odd. Because, really... what else was it?
 (Jimbotfu Bummed in the gob again, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 22:45, Reply)
This is a normal post tl,dr;
He gave Sonic 2 76%?!
 (Jimbotfu Bummed in the gob again, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 22:56, Reply)
This is a normal post Bout time someone had the stones to call that. Old games are fucking shite.

(I helped save b3ta! Quiver Search for FATALISTS on Spotify, Amazon, Apple, &c, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 21:37, Reply)
This is a normal post Well, now they're just smartened up a tad and turned into mobile phone apps instead.
There are a few games that are good, but 99% of apps are utter balls.
 (I helped save b3ta! Fray Brentos *mega-belms*, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 22:27, Reply)
This is a normal post It was always like this.
Most 8 bit gmes were recognised as being shit at the time. There were a few brilliant ones, lots of mediocre ones and dozens of utterly crappy knockoffs.

It was the same in the 16 bit era, and it's the same now.

Personally I thought the 16 bit games were pretty much the high point for "retro". Computers were good enough to run something reasonably complex but they were still cheap enough to make that people could do crazy stuff.
 (tacpprm has a mmrpcat, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 9:01, Reply)
This is a normal post radio 4 yesterday: UK Gaming
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06bp38h
 (I helped save b3ta! artifus is doing it all wrong, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 21:50, Reply)
This is a normal post while this is undoubtedly true (barring a few exceptions maybe)
what makes most of those early games so shit by modern standards is really rough gameplay and technology that wasn't anywhere close to being able to do what it wanted to be doing. By the era of the megadrive/snes this was becoming less the case, and I still find myself playing stuff from that time, or their modern equivalents.
 (I helped save b3ta! mutated monty, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 22:43, Reply)
This is a normal post I like me some old games and have all the classics on emulation-o-tron.
But:

On average, they're fucking hard. Much harder than I remember. Especially when you go back to 8 bit.

Maybe I just don't have the patience to spend hours wrestling with wonky physics in a crap platformer any more.

Maybe modern games are much more forgiving.

Or maybe I've just got old and shit.
 (Jimbotfu Bummed in the gob again, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 23:01, Reply)
This is a normal post think its a combination of the two
back when I was a kid i'd spend months playing a single game until I knew it back to front, cos there was nothing better and i had loads of time. But games in those days were as hard as balls, no question. Modern games don't even need instruction manuals.

Also, games started life in the arcades, where the more they killed you the more money they would make, and it took a while for that level of difficulty to ease off as they migrated to home consoles.
 (I helped save b3ta! mutated monty, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 0:04, Reply)
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(I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 9:49, Reply)
This is a normal post I usually can enjoy
watching 8-bit games being played, but playing them myself is often too much like a chore.

I think you're right about the SNES-era, though. Most indie games I like now could have been built then without losing much.
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 23:04, Reply)
This is a normal post You can see in the metroid and zelda games
how far they progressed in gameplay between 8 bit and 16 bit. Those old nes games are pretty obscure and unforgiving at times.
 (I helped save b3ta! mutated monty, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 0:20, Reply)
This is a normal post they were certainly often brutal
also, in terms of gameplay progress the NES games themselves were a massive step up on the previous 'generation' of (mostly) crap that was being put out before Nintendo got its seal of approval in place.
 (Melatonin, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 8:22, Reply)
This is a normal post 95% of old games are utter shit
So I don't play them. But there are thousands and thousands of games, which means 5% still gives me shitloads of decent games to enjoy.
 (I helped save b3ta! Thrill_My_Chinchilla is old and unimproved, Thu 24 Sep 2015, 22:56, Reply)
This is a normal post Bollocks
I spent two days over christmas completing Jet Set Willy again. Its fucking tough, but its brilliant. The last ninja is in there too, and that still holds up (although the controls suck).
 (I helped save b3ta! DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 9:01, Reply)
This is a normal post Well, JSW is the best game of all time.
Got to play it on a real speccy at Game City for the full nostalgia rush.

If I were to disagree with Mr Biffo, I'd go for the angle that some old games are amusing for being so shit. The Atari XL version of JSW for example: www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P3d-8OdIsA (which has an amazing theme tune)
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 11:28, Reply)
This is a normal post Attention-seeking bollock-spouter with no clue what constitutes a coherent argument.
Good games are good. Shit games are shit.

In graphics, low-res and low-colour do not matter; jerky movement and flicker matter, whether the game is brand new or 35 years old.

Only having one fire button does not matter; quick responses and clearly defined actions matter.

First-person, third-person, overhead or isometric views do not matter. Being able to see what you are doing matters.

There are piles and piles and piles of utterly shit games thrown up by every generation. The trick is not to be a fucking idiot and instead play the good ones.
 (I helped save b3ta! joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 12:44, Reply)
This is a normal post I know what you're saying,
but many of the best games I have played on old systems have been recent homebrew stuff, which have taken advantage of increased knowledge of what makes something playable.

The point I liked of his was not that old games are bad, but that indie games have more of what made them great - the willingness to experiment etc, combined with the increased knowledge of game mechanics that have evolved by people making mistakes in the past.
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Fri 25 Sep 2015, 16:22, Reply)

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