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So, the courts have ruled that The Pirate Bay should be blocked by ISPs
And immediately lots of ill informed arguments commenced on the internet about whether or not copying a film is "theft" or "copyright infringment" and whether or not the BPI have actually bothered to do any research on whether or not people who download stuff actually buy more stuff too.

John Humphries took the biscuit though, for immediately saying that it was the duty of the ISP to block pornography so that children couldn't access it.

How upset would you be if they blocked porn on the internet?

ALT: Over the road from my house there has been a car parked for months with a big advert tied to the roof

It finally got moved last night (after complaints to the council) but they left two traffic cones to try and reserve the space. So this morning I moved the cones and parked my van there.

When were you last really petty? Battered, there is no need for you to answer this one.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:28, Reply)
People would always access porn through other means if it was blocked on the web. Sex sells and people have wanted to buy it for thousands of years in all sorts of formats.
I would have been a great deal more upset about this when I was a teenager.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:31, Reply)
Like they had the internet when you were a teenager.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:37, Reply)
Alright?

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:38, Reply)
Not bad thanks.
My walking plans were scuppered by rain this morning so I walked to my office from two tube stops away instead.

I think I'm becoming addicted to smugness.

You?
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:40, Reply)

I'm more addicted to pomposity than smugness.

Better thanks. Solid shits have resumed. Off to Birmingham this afternoon which is the only downer.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:41, Reply)
Sure to loosen your bowels again.
The smell of Cuppasoup and UB40 records is a dangerous combination.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:43, Reply)
I'd just go back to my collection of vintage porn stashed under my bed.
That Mary Millington must be pushing it a bit now though.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:34, Reply)
The idea of blocking porn is retarded.
All this bollocks about claiming children have been 'negatively affected' by it. If they were going to be fucked up, they were going to be fucked up. Maybe the parents should accept the blame, rather than simply pointing the finger at anyone but themselves.

Also, why would a child under 16 have a PC in their room anyway? What purpose does it serve?

Tbh, it wouldn't actually affect me too much, either way.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:37, Reply)
So they can wank over porn without their parents seeing them?

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:39, Reply)
So they can see their close family friends presenting old episodes of Art Attack on YouTube.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:41, Reply)
Surely that's a bonus, not a reason to have one there?

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:41, Reply)
I think the parents get fed up with them wanking in the lounge during The One Show, so...

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:43, Reply)
I had a PC from the age of 12
There was no internet back then but it served many purposes. Games, homework, programming, simply learning to build and upgrade them. Its served me quite well.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:25, Reply)
See, that makes sense
And I would be happy for (when the time comes) my child to have an internetless PC in their room at that age.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:28, Reply)
There will be no such thing as an internet;ess PC by the time you spawn.
it will also be pretty much impossible to give them a phone without an internet connection.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:34, Reply)
Orange blocks adult sites by default, you have to call up to turn it off

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:19, Reply)
I know I am in a minority here, but I have no problem with Pirate Bay being taken down.
As for porn...i don't think it's cut and dry. I'm actually glad I didn't have access to free and easy hardcore porn when I was 12. I quite liked losing my virginity without fake expectations of what sex would be like. I'm not sure that finding a way to block it is a bad thing, as long as adults can opt in (and believe me, i'd be opting in with both feet, so to speak). It's all well and good to say 'parents should take responsibility', but some just don't and that's no reason to abandon the children.

That said, I find backing censorship quite uncomfortable too, so I really don't know where I stand at the moment.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:42, Reply)
You're correct, most porn is quite moist rather than dry.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:44, Reply)
However most of the, ah, actors, appear to be 'cut'.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:45, Reply)
AA took his inspiration from his favourite websites.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:46, Reply)
tediousbenders.com?

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:48, Reply)
SPAM!

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:54, Reply)
Is that what that was?
I thought it was a closeup of some old trout's gash.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:56, Reply)
That reads like I lost my virginity when I was 12.
I didn't.

I joined The Cubs way before then.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:48, Reply)
Oh, I just saw the Alt.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one that does things like that. I've done exactly that many times. Even when other spaces were available.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:44, Reply)
"It's all well and good to say 'parents should take responsibility', but some just don't and that's no reason to abandon the children."
It's also no reason to ban stuff for everyone. Some people are feckless dumbasses who shouldn't be allowed to vote/breed/have sharp objects etc but if we ban everything that SOME can't deal with, we end up with lowest-common-denominator laws.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:48, Reply)
I agree completely.
Or at least I would if I had been talking about banning it, rather than making it opt in.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:49, Reply)
Opt-in is a good idea
However, that brings in the spectre of pay-per-view and ISP tracking. I said in another thread re 'pirating' films that Hollywood has to change its business model or die as people are not going to the cinema like they used to. A friend went to the local flicks last week, 2 adults & 2 kids = 55.00!!
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:56, Reply)
Perhaps they should stop making such fucking dismal films.
Perhaps people are sick of third-rate comic adaptations and shitty remakes.

Oh hang on. No, they're not - people are dribbling retards who love that drivel. As you were.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 8:58, Reply)
*dribble*
Avengers

*dribble*
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:01, Reply)
*pities*

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:03, Reply)
Are we still taking about porn here?
Because if so, I question your friends decision to take his kids with him...
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:00, Reply)
That was the film: '2 adults and 2 kids'
Disgusting.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:00, Reply)
And what do you call this act?

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:01, Reply)
Family fun.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:03, Reply)
OK, back to the issue of porn being available to some kids.
I believe I have an explanation which I will present here in a newspaper headline style.

FUCKED-UP FECKLESS PARENTS BREED FUCKED-UP FECKLESS KIDS SHOCKER!
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:07, Reply)
I wish I lived with your simplictic world view, it must make life so much easier.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:10, Reply)
He used to sell assault rifles too.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:17, Reply)
Most of my simplistic view of feckless parents comes from several years experience in dealing with them.
Those who thought that set attendance times didn't apply to them or their chavspawn. Those that were so spineless their 9 year-olds ruled their households. Those that had never had to use a clock (never been employed) and didn't understand that timetables applied to everyone - I've seen quite a few but not all of them.

Feckless idiots TEND TO breed feckless idiots. The statistics are on my side.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:20, Reply)
To be honest, I don't know why I engaged with you in the first place.
To avoid doing a Chompy/Swipe thing that annoys everyone else, I've been happily but unobtrusively having nothing to do with you for a very long time and I don't know what made me change that this morning. I thnk I'll just go back to that.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:24, Reply)
Oh please dont!
I feel validated by your scorn and wish to sup from the pool of your Godlike wisdom.

Or not. YMMV
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:31, Reply)
The Aristocrats*
*I still don't find this joke funny
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:08, Reply)
Ha. That's kinda the point though, the joke itself isn't actually funny.
I still love that film about it though.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:09, Reply)
Serbian Film
Lulz
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:19, Reply)
Where was that?!

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:04, Reply)
The cinema, he just said.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:07, Reply)
Wotcha

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:08, Reply)
Squire.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:10, Reply)
Chief.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:11, Reply)
Mucker

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:12, Reply)
Gadgie.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:23, Reply)
Alt: Some cunt moved my cones and parked his van there
So I posted a bot dog through his letterbox.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:06, Reply)
I heard you unfriended him on facebook

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:10, Reply)
I hit him where it hurts.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:10, Reply)
That should be a facebook option
"poke" ; "friend" ; "deliver letterbox bot dog"
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:11, Reply)
Are people getting confused about two separate but linked arguments?
because, as far as I can see, there are two issues. One is whether UK ISPs should be forced to block the pirate bay, which they should, and the other is whether what the pirate bay do should be illegal or not, which is a matter for debate, although personally I think it should as well.

But as long as UK law remains that that copyright infringement is theft, I can't see there can be any debate about blocking Pirate Bay really.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:08, Reply)
I bet you'd love it if someone 'blocked' your 'pirate bay'

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:08, Reply)
they'd totally "interfere" with my "streaming"

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:09, Reply)
I think it's a matter for debate whether or not they should block it too.
Since the idea of a torrent hosting site isn't of itself doing anything wrong (yes I know it effectively only exists to allow people to share torrents of copyright material, but it can also host torrents of perfectly legal stuff)
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:12, Reply)
does it?
(i mean this as an actual question, I've not been there)

If it hosts legal torrents, then as a matter of principle, you're absolutely right it could be up for debate. I thought it only hosted copyrighted stuff?
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:13, Reply)
Anyone can post anything to the site, it's just that the majority of the stuff posted is copyright.
But I can use it to host a torrent of a song that I might write, or a piece of software that I created, if I so choose.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:16, Reply)
OK, interesting point.
I suppose what's probably needed is a torrent site that only hosts legal stuff, but who the fuck is going to actually police it?
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:18, Reply)
I did try to separate them out.
But to clarify, I have no problem with Pirate Bay being blocked. Separate to that, I do think that there is an issue about children being able to easily access pornography but I have no clue what a sensible solution would be.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:12, Reply)
Oh, I wasn't talking about the porn
children these days don't even bat an eyelid about DVDA. God knows how losing your virginity goes these days, they probably have fluffers.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:15, Reply)
Sorry, my fault, I'm always talking about the porn.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:19, Reply)
Isnt that the car place
I am sure I got my driving license from there.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:22, Reply)
something like that.


double vaginal double anal. The holy grail of grot.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:25, Reply)
As I cant be arsed with the tiny letters if you could imagine the below
Surely that would be DAT (double air tight)
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:35, Reply)
If they did switch off all the porn
I reckon I can still remember what we did before we had the internet.
Back to scouring the Radio Times film section for the content advice on each film "Contains nudity and sex scenes". Channel 4 will need to reintroduce its French art film seasons, etc.
I'm old enough now that I could go and buy pornographic magazines so I wouldn't need to scour the bushes for discarded grot.
Whether today's teenagers would have this resourcefulness or not, i don't know. We may have to teach them.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:15, Reply)
Ray Mears would have to make a series on hedge porn.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:17, Reply)
Channel 5 would rescreen that show they did when they attached cameras to the guys cock and inside the birds mimsy
and showed what actually happens during different sexual positions.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:18, Reply)
sex tips for girls was pretty good

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:47, Reply)
his cock was spotty though, did anyone else notice that? like little red spots all over it
weird

pricks
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:47, Reply)
they didn't rule did they? they asked or requested? there's no law involved there

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:19, Reply)
Nope, it's a high court ruling in the UK. 6 ISPs must block it, I can't remember which ones.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:20, Reply)
BT actually requested that they have more time to think about how to do it.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:21, Reply)
It's probably still allowed in Scotland though.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:21, Reply)
Deep fried porn.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:22, Reply)
We only have bits of string instead of broadband up here though.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:23, Reply)
if you're not on one of the major ISPs you'll be fine
and people who really want pirate material probably don't use the big rip-off companies anyway
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:24, Reply)
and a proxy will bypass it anyway.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:25, Reply)
i wouldn't count on that
i tried using proxies to look at porn on my O2 phone and none of them worked

pricks
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:28, Reply)
why don't you just click "enable grot" on your O2 account?
or is a work phone?
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:31, Reply)
i did in the end
embarrassing tho innit
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:36, Reply)
going into the O2 shop and going 'I WANT TO WANK OVER A 4 INCH SCREEN PLEASE NOW THANKS'

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:36, Reply)
you have to go into the shop and ask?
that's a bit primary school.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:41, Reply)
nah you can call up with a credit card number as verification too
i was fuckig with you cos i'm a crazy bitch
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:41, Reply)
steady there.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:43, Reply)
prick

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:43, Reply)
nah it's 5, and they were sent court orders
which is like me sending you a letter saying 'opplease don't do that anymore'

BT are still trying to decide whether they will do it

either way, they're all pricks
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:23, Reply)
yeah, but failure to obey a court oder would be a criminal offence
so they will all do it.

Everyone's a prick, Quints. I thought this was established?
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:24, Reply)
i wouldn't bet hard cash on it standing up in court tho
your first argument would be 'BUT NOBODY ELSE HAS TO WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH'

you are correct. prick
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:25, Reply)
I think the fact it's a court order would kind of be what makes it stand up in court.
but, yeah. That might be used as a defence. but I reckon the 5 will just do it, no real skin off their nose.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:27, Reply)
its the end of the world as we know it

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:28, Reply)
steady, it's not as bad as REM.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:30, Reply)
I have personal experience of the meaningless nature of court orders.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:32, Reply)
When "The Hague" summon you, you really should go

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:41, Reply)
Hahaha
I DO NOT RECOGNISE THE LEGITIMACY OF ZIS COURT.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:51, Reply)
Oh in that ase you are free to go
What a cunning legal ruse you have pulled off
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:55, Reply)
I wouldn't be that upset, but john humphries is a knob
He was totally missing the point.

Alt: you weren't being petty, that was Great Justice.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:31, Reply)
FUCKCUNTS!!!!

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:36, Reply)
PRICKS

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:36, Reply)
WANKSHAFTS!!!!!

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:38, Reply)
FANNYFLAPS!!!!

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:41, Reply)
BISCUIT!

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:42, Reply)
nah, that was the perforated eel

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:44, Reply)
wrong board!
EJECT EJECT!!!
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:45, Reply)
(turns 360 degrees)
(leaves)
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:46, Reply)
I wouldn't bother with the net if both downloading and porn were gone, it would leave this place and even swipeys bumhole gazzes aren't enough
When I was in Ealing this twat used to reserve his parking space with a ladder padlocked to a wheelbarrow. What a fucking wanker.

I can't remember when I was last petty. INTERESTING STORY HUH!?
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:36, Reply)
couldn't you just lift the wheelbarrow-ladder out the way?
you prick
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:38, Reply)
Nah, the tyre was flat.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:39, Reply)
I didn't drive
I just thought he was a wanker. Also the ladder padlocked too it prevented wheeling.
You prick
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:49, Reply)
you thick bastard
a ladder on a wheelbarrow is still going to be light enough to lift

prick
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:51, Reply)
Why would I bother?
I'm sure plenty of people with cars did
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:52, Reply)
you just don't care about anyone but yourself

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:55, Reply)
Beginning to finally realise that?

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:56, Reply)
yes, i now see why you trolled me over the formby thing
you troll
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:20, Reply)
Plenty of other sites anyway
alt: I hope you shat in the cones first
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:36, Reply)
I went to see Graham Coxon last night
And the hotel he was staying in burned down hahahahaha
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:50, Reply)
I saw Richard Ashcroft in Sainsbury yesterday
he was buying fish fingers and peas
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:52, Reply)
Did you shoulder barge him in the aisle?
My pal Ian Laughton was their roadie before they were 'big' - they were 'cunts', apparently.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:54, Reply)
cunts, northerners, they're synonyms right?


prick
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:55, Reply)
Yes.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:55, Reply)
He's from Wigan, it's even worse!

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:21, Reply)
He was at the till, wearing sunglasses like a prick

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:56, Reply)
What a spastic.
Also, what kind of mong do you have to be to sample a fucking orchestral Rolling Stones record without clearing it? Imbeciles.

Publishing royalties on their biggest tune = 100% to Jagger/Richards.

LOL
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:00, Reply)
I wondered what he was doing for a living these days.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:02, Reply)
How the mighty are fallen, eh?

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:06, Reply)
Anything you'd like to confess?

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:53, Reply)
I was at work at the time
I have witnesses, you can't pin anything on me!
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 9:54, Reply)
I would have more sympathy for the copywrite holders if they weren't such woe is me bastards.
Also they do stats wrong.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:02, Reply)
How is John Humphreys proposing that porn be blocked?
I do enjoy it when people say stupid shit like that with no idea how mammoth an undertaking that would be.

What they ought to be doing is forcing porn sites onto the .xxx domain they were talking about a while ago and then individuals would be able to block that domain from their own home routers.

It's the not the job of an ISP to be a fucking police force. Jesus.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:02, Reply)
He's going to view it all himself and decide what stays and what goes.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:07, Reply)
I can involve both questions in one answer.
Once on the train to/from Newcastle I was using the free wifi (when it was free) and they were blocking any site that basically wasn't just a wall of text to save bandwidth. So to get my own back in the smallest way possible I torrented New Order's entire discography.
The joke was on me though I suppose, because it wasn't very good and Peter Hook has got to be the biggest cunt in the world.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:05, Reply)
He's a very serious contender.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:08, Reply)
After you of course.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:09, Reply)
guys
i'm sorry, i'm SUCH a twat. i forgot i am at a wedding next wed.

i will gaz you both to rearrange, hopefully the following week?

who gets married on a wed, ffs?!?
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:21, Reply)
I can't make the 16th or 17th.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:25, Reply)
bank holiday week isn't it
extra day off
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:26, Reply)
cheapskates, that's who.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:34, Reply)
I actually hate him.
I mean ffs: www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvPewWxwg1Q
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:23, Reply)
he's certainly an ubervagina.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:34, Reply)
It's cunts like you that stop the rest of us working on East Coast trains, though.
by using the entire bandwith to watch youtube videos of fucking pugs on skateboards. you disgust me.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:33, Reply)
The wifi on East Coast is hilariously shit tho init.
I just use my iPhone as a modem now.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:37, Reply)
couldn't care less
i once tried watching it. didn't do anything for me. after a couple of mins i turned it off, only to find that i had plugged the headphones into the wrong socket so my flatmate and the neighbours had been treated to it too. i hope they enjoyed it more than i did. watching some poorly waxed red pimply vagina pulsating on the screen is not for me.

i am never petty. all my points are mature, adult, and argued with the dextrous verbal wizardry you would expect of one in my profession.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:15, Reply)
Your professional language being variations of:
Cum in mouth without condom = 25.
Anal is an extra 50.
No watersports.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:17, Reply)
that's.... specific!

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:18, Reply)
Battered has extensive experience in a reviewing capacity.
His knowledge of the UK's ladies of the night is second to none.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:20, Reply)
he's like trip-adviser.co.uk but for prossies
trollop-adviser
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:21, Reply)
www.punternet.com Definitely NSFW.
Disclaimer: I have been told about the site but have never contributed to it, nor have I ever paid for sex, apart from buying dinner.
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:25, Reply)
i can't believe your posting porn links now
why haven't you been band yet?
(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:26, Reply)
Which Quentin are you?

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:28, Reply)
hello you

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:21, Reply)
morning dearest.

(, Tue 1 May 2012, 10:29, Reply)

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