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# Threadwaste


Goodness... Is it just me or is this image shopped? It's being passed off by a Sydney newspaper as legit pic of a Royal Marine in a captured Iraqi palace. Looks to me like the lighting on the guy is different (harder, whiter) than the lighting in hall.
www.smh.com.au/ftimages/2003/04/08/1049567655256.html
(I helped save b3ta! Ratsta, Tue 8 Apr 2003, 6:40, archived)
# Could it be...
...the Photographer's flash that's produced the harsh light? He would need to use a flash otherwise the soldier's face would be in shadow.

Photoshop has created such mistrust in press photography now :)
(I helped save b3ta! Mystery_Bob, Tue 8 Apr 2003, 6:45, archived)
# I considered the flash
but I think the flash would be visible by creating odd light reflections off the features in the hall.

I also think the quality of film is different. IE the guy seems very sharp and 'stark' where the hall has a serene 'sales brouchure' quality to it. If you look at the other pictures on the linked site, I think the pictures of the bathroom fittings probably came from the same brochure.
(I helped save b3ta! Ratsta, Tue 8 Apr 2003, 6:54, archived)
# Hall's too
far away for the flash to have any effect.
(I helped save b3ta! Boot I want to know what you meant, Tue 8 Apr 2003, 6:57, archived)
# I agree...
...after what happened to that other photographer, the papers should be pretty careful about this kind of thing.

Why forge a photo when there is plenty of oppurtunity to get the real thing anyway?

Unless we are being lied to about a great number of things, but I can't imagine that would ever happen.
(I helped save b3ta! Mystery_Bob, Tue 8 Apr 2003, 7:00, archived)
# OK then
what about the depth of field? The hall seems to be in good focus and yet the foreground is sharp. Isn't that difficult / highly improbable to achieve?
(I helped save b3ta! Ratsta, Tue 8 Apr 2003, 7:16, archived)
# No
it's not. A large depth of field keeps everything in focus. Especially if the photographer uses a telephoto lens.
(BigKGChicago, Tue 8 Apr 2003, 7:25, archived)
# wider lens
generally means greater depth of field.
Byproduct of the aperture; longer lenses tend to have smaller apertures ('cos the lens would have to be very wide as well, which means heavy & expensive)
(I helped save b3ta! Duncan Disorderly, Tue 8 Apr 2003, 9:13, archived)
# I think you're right
I'm also wondering about his height/perspective. To me he looks like he'd have to be standing on a box or something.
(I helped save b3ta! HairyCanary as Ann B. Davis as Alice, Tue 8 Apr 2003, 7:27, archived)
# I think...
...we would have to see the original to be sure. As others have said, the Jpeg compression can do funny things.

In the meantime, why don't we all have a look at the moon landing footage :)
(I helped save b3ta! Mystery_Bob, Tue 8 Apr 2003, 7:35, archived)
#
In the immortal words of Buzz Lightyear...

You're mocking me, aren't you?
(I helped save b3ta! Ratsta, Tue 8 Apr 2003, 8:02, archived)
# Would I?
;)
(I helped save b3ta! Mystery_Bob, Tue 8 Apr 2003, 8:29, archived)
# look around his right elbow
i think i see some sort of artifacts from pasting.
kind of a halo-ish effect, with white lines on top of dark tiles that shouldn't be there

edit/tj: anyone know where the earsocks craze started from, coz i saw something quite similar in an old calvin & hobbes comic strip
(TheTruffleShuffle, Tue 8 Apr 2003, 6:51, archived)
# Morning
Mr Truff - managed to tear yourself away from iSketch then :-)
(I helped save b3ta! Boot I want to know what you meant, Tue 8 Apr 2003, 6:54, archived)
# 'tis night actually
but yes, just barely

mornin to you too btw
(TheTruffleShuffle, Tue 8 Apr 2003, 7:00, archived)
# that could be just from bad jpeg compression
/my two pence
(I helped save b3ta! KittyWaste lives at Sleepingplanet.com, Tue 8 Apr 2003, 7:08, archived)
# I think
you can't really tell what's been lost in the digitalisation and conversion to jpeg. There's some slightly strange solid black outlines (e.g.on the gun) and some funny blurring (on either side of his jaw), but nothing that looks glaringly chopped.

Oh and btw - you are paranoid.
(I helped save b3ta! Boot I want to know what you meant, Tue 8 Apr 2003, 6:52, archived)
#
bleh, I'm not paranoid, I just know a 'chop when I see one :) Call it a b3ta honed spidey sense :)
(I helped save b3ta! Ratsta, Tue 8 Apr 2003, 6:55, archived)
# I agree
it's all fake.
Except for the bodies piling up in the streets.
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Tue 8 Apr 2003, 6:52, archived)
# It looks too fake..
..to be a fake!
(dunn, Tue 8 Apr 2003, 7:30, archived)
# Doesn't this look painful?
girl injured during demonstration at Oakland, California docks.
Those rubber bullets pack a punch.
(BigKGChicago, Tue 8 Apr 2003, 7:38, archived)
# run
edge detection on it, wonderful filter
(I helped save b3ta! munkt0n, Tue 8 Apr 2003, 8:59, archived)