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[challenge entry] lack of lol, but

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(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 9:59, archived)
# Very nicely done Toasty.

(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:01, archived)
# so are you saying if you have an orange complexion your vote is disqualified
and by orange do you mean brown and yellow...
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:02, archived)
# red and yellow make orange, not brown
you racist
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:04, archived)
# unless your using plasticine
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:05, archived)
# brown and yellow with plasticine makes "tan"
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:07, archived)
# tan is not a colour I recognise
please describe it in more detail
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:09, archived)
# Is this what you mean....?

Orange green and purple.
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:09, archived)
# It really is that simple
I get the feeling most round these parts are 'Yes' types.

Is that cos we're all a bunch of pinko tree-hugging Marxists?
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:05, archived)
# I get the feeling most people are yes types
once they stop listening to the nonsense being shoved through their letterboxes and tv sets
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:06, archived)
# Most people I speak to about it are yes types
So why do I have the horrible feeling the nos are going to win on the day?
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:07, archived)
# because the fear campaign (pushed by the no's) always carries more pressure
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:08, archived)
# This all over
Fear wions everytime

Probably old news but I just found out the No campaign is run by the Chief exec of the Taxpayers Alliance... but I can't find any info on how they are funded
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:10, archived)
# I meant, the No To AV mob
Gideon had a pop at the funding of the Yes group the other day
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:16, archived)
# They're kind of open about it
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:24, archived)
# Ace, obviously my detective skills are running low on gas today
So... rich, tax dodging, tory supporters then
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:33, archived)
# Yep, corrupt and shady bastards to a man
keep a note of the names for when the revolution comes
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:58, archived)
# ^ interesting, thanks
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:28, archived)
# And a lot of the yes types can't be bothered to vote.
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:11, archived)
# So...
we're voting to change a sytem where poeple feel their vote doesn't matter.
And it's going to be scuppered because people will think their vote doesn't matter?
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:17, archived)
# most people I speak to (other than on t'webs)
are going to vote no because they don't think the current system is broken. Sadly they're right, it's not broken, it just could be better. People are too complacent to vote for better.
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 11:24, archived)
# ^ How very informative...
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:07, archived)
# simplistic
so the views of the orange minority are not important and many people only voted purple as a second choice maybe not fully understanding the voting system and then we have the people who didn't vote (well of course they're not important because they choose not to vote, right?)

All in all whatever the voting system it will never be truly fair or truly representative until we have a 1 vote equal 1 vote system and not (let's say) that an area in Manchester which has 10 times the population of some country village both have 1 MP each.
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:09, archived)
# it's an improvement on the current method, so I'm in favour of it
simplistic view, yes
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:13, archived)
# It's not really an improvement just a move to make the first past the post system look fairer
which it obviously isn't - it disqualifies political parties that fall below a certain threshold so we still end up with the 3 party state whatever we do and will never hear the voice of the minority parties who may or may not have legitimate concerns with the way things are run.
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:16, archived)
# I disagree
I think it encourages people to be more honest when they vote.
Rather than just thinking, well I want to vote X, but he won't win so I'll vote Y instead.
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:19, archived)
# I find that the majority of times I go to vote I have very little choice as someone who is a Socialist
even if we have anything near a socialist party standing I will more than likely vote for them even if sometimes some of their policies put my teeth on edge but regardless of having a second vote who the hell am I going to vote as a second choice knowing full well that my first choice will fail ensuring that only my second choice counts for anything - that isn't fair.
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:24, archived)
# it's all about the statistics.
It will embolden parties (and their investors) when they see who voted for who as their first choice. Like toasty said, much less tactical voting will (should, maybe) occur so parties will get a more accurate picture of their popularity. They still won't get any power, but with more votes, parties should get more investment, making them stronger runners in the future.
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 11:43, archived)
# it highlights other parties
and gives them a greater chance to compete (people aren't as likely to waste their vote voting tactically against the ones they fear will get in)

Of course it won't give everyone what they want because some people will vote for the extremist non party - which the majority, quite rightly won't be in favour of. But I would hope it broadens the political spectrum a bit, which can only be a good thing.

I think this will do wonders for the green party, not sure its entirely a good thing, but we'll see, can't be any worse than etc etc
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:22, archived)
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:18, archived)
# I can't click on point one
so have this *click* instead
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:21, archived)
# I'll be voting for it because I believe it's fair
and also because it seems to really bother the major parties.
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:21, archived)
# Regardless of colour
I really don’t think that Jelly Babies should have the vote
(, Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:28, archived)