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# we're talking at crossed purposes I think
I'm talking about blame, not compensation
Sony aren't to blame for cunts being cunts which is what most people seem to be doing around t'internet
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:01, archived)
# So if you get malware on your computer its your fault
rather than the fault of the cunts who wrote it?

(Kitty Fantastico "Dwarf, Anorexic and In a Fight ", Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:05, archived)
# ? no, the opposite
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:07, archived)
# That looks to me as the exact opposite of what HT has been saying
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:08, archived)
# did you even read what he said?
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:08, archived)
# absolutely
n.b. That's in reply to your articular statement and not in context of the thread.

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# Hey there old-timer.
*taps pipe on arm of rocking chair*
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:14, archived)
# Thatcher
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:13, archived)
# Hahahahaha
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:14, archived)
# lol!
(I helped save b3ta! Jeccius Steam Borderlands 2 junkie, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 11:27, archived)
# Not really. If Sony offer a service to clients, I'd say they have a duty of care to those clients to protect them from beasties and nawties.
I would go so far as to project that I would believe that to be a significant part of the relationship that people value when employing Sony by buying their service.

Thus if Sony fail to keep out hackers, then it is Sony's failing, and they are to be blamed for that failing.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:08, archived)
# yes
and I am saying Sony are not to blame for cunts being cunts
they did not "give" information away, it was stolen.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:14, archived)
# Well that's just a matter of rhetoric.
If I was one of the people who had had their data nicked, I may well be tempted to describe it as Sony "giving" it away.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:25, archived)
# yes, which is what I'm commenting on and suggesting is incorrect
congratulations for getting to the point :D
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:28, archived)
# Not really. Your original claim was
"blaming sony is like telling a rape victim she was asking for it"

Which is disingenuous at best.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:30, archived)
# in all honesty
a) are you having a polite conversation?
or b) are you just dragging this out because you have something against me (as you seem to keep doing this when I dare to speak on this site)?

I wasn't being disingenuous, I genuinely believe that people are levelling their blame at the wrong place and stupidly dared to comment on it which is obviously worse than thread deletion and spam. Sony did not simply give away information, they did not stand out on a street randomly handing it out to strangers. And they did not ask to be targeted in the same way a rape victim does not ask to be raped.
Are you saying a rape victim is to blame for not carrying a gun to defend themselves? or that they "gave away" a sexual liaison?
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:38, archived)
# Ok - I'm so sorry that came across as personal.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:44, archived)
# I didn't realise you were such an Xbox fanboy ;)
(I helped save b3ta! Whato_Jeeves Did your surgery require a vaginal mesh patch?, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:52, archived)
# I want a free blowjob from sony when this is all said and done


or god help her!!!
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:46, archived)
# you have PS+ don't you?
I think the people who pay certainly should get something for the downtime inconvenience
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:52, archived)
# yup

I honestly think Sony need to kiss everyones arse over this not just the + owners, free stuff all round
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:56, archived)
# Expect to be charged more for the increased security
(I helped save b3ta! Paul_P http://www.Paul-hub.com, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:57, archived)
# it hasn't affected my playing games
but it's an annoyance to change the password.
just hope it isn't worse than that and card details have remained safe as they are currently officially saying.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 10:04, archived)
# Don't forget the security question
You're going to have to get your mother to change her maiden name
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 10:07, archived)
# :D
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 10:13, archived)
# Initially, I thought that we would have a problem with our profiles/accounts.
But won't they have us log in against our MAC addresses or something, to verify it is us and not some scum bag?
(I helped save b3ta! Whato_Jeeves Did your surgery require a vaginal mesh patch?, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 10:07, archived)
# been playing portal 2...but co-op doesn't work which is a pain :/
but I can wait..as long as they fix it and make the security stronger
I don't care how long it's down for
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 10:08, archived)
# I hammered it over the bank holiday weekend, did all 29 trophies for single player :D
(I helped save b3ta! Whato_Jeeves Did your surgery require a vaginal mesh patch?, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 10:11, archived)
# trying to get smash tv trophy...I missed one out lastnight :(

I'm the same..gimme a shout when it's back up and running
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 10:27, archived)
# lol
i don't think you will get much from sony. times are hard, money is tight etc etc
(I helped save b3ta! Avast is still alive!!!!, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 10:05, archived)
# At the moment I believe the data is ssafe.
Despite denials this will turn out to be Anonymous or at least someone working under the umbrella of Anonymous ( be that 'officially or otherwise). The problem now lies with the value of the data and the scruples of the persons holding it.

This was a protest attack on Sony but there now exists an immensely valuable commodity and it may be beyond the ability of those holding it to keep the cat in the bag.
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# Sony releases new information, credit card and private information may have been obtained in hack.
Anonymous say they didn't do it, they're not the only hacker group on the net.

It wasn't a protest attack it was an LOIC attack to install a modified "Rebug" onto the dev console, they had no other choice than to shut the whole thing down.


(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:18, archived)
# To be honest this really doesn't fit with an anonymous attack
This looks to be the work of someone with a bit of talent and not just a group of kids with DDos software
(I helped save b3ta! Paul_P http://www.Paul-hub.com, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:30, archived)
# True about it being a valuable commodity...
I had an interesting conversation with Barclays this morning about card safety - the guy I spoke to said that "if the card details had indeed been swiped, that would be 7 million cards (or whatever the number of users it was) which was a huge amount, there was no way they could use all of those cards to make transactions etc, so it would be unlikely you would see any fraudulent activity..."

I couldn't decide whether he was being very naive, or actually had a good point

(Hello Pasa! Long time no see!)
(I helped save b3ta! theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:23, archived)
# Hello boys!
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:28, archived)
# howdy, Medi!
(I helped save b3ta! theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:30, archived)
# Looks like I picked to right day to visit this place
how are you doing?
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 9:50, archived)
# If they were sensible
they'd siphon a quid off each card.

You're hardly going to notice/care about a quid.

£7 mill easy...
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 10:05, archived)
# anyone would think you work for the government
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 10:08, archived)
# I think we'll soon have a script for Office Space 2 with that sort of plan :D
(I helped save b3ta! theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>, Wed 27 Apr 2011, 10:08, archived)