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# He was a fantastic leader as well.
Shame about the whole world dominance thing.

The National Socialist party was pretty fucked up without him, he was reflecting a larger movement, I think it is important to remember that, whilst his actions were evil, he was not 'An Evil Man TM' but just a man (a very personable and popular man) so that we can remember that the terrible activities of his regime were not caused just by a freak of evil, but could easily happen again with another charismatic leader and an unfortunate national feeling.

Also, his moustache was shite.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2011, 20:35, archived)
# Hitler was 'just some guy' was he?
Ok.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2011, 20:41, archived)
# but to be fair to manley
he also said "he was a fantastic leader" (which is true, regrettable as it may be) and "the national socialist party was nothing without him" (which is arguable, but has a good argument backing it) -- so he wasn't just some guy. i think the point is that without hitler there'd have been someone else and roughly the same thing could very well have happened. maybe not the rampant anti-semitism, but the expansionism, the war-mongering, and ultimately a war that seemed inevitable to some even back in 1918 when versailles was signed. (and jews were unpopular across most of europe, so the anti-semitism may well have come up too.)
(, Fri 17 Jun 2011, 20:53, archived)
# That's Zaphod Beeblebrox.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2011, 21:04, archived)
# i agree with a lot of what you said there
demonising him means it's a lot easier to believe history won't repeat itself, when germany went to war they were the most advanced nation in the west
(, Fri 17 Jun 2011, 20:44, archived)
# Yes, they invented quicktime, for starters
(, Fri 17 Jun 2011, 20:57, archived)
# and where would we be without .mov files?
(, Fri 17 Jun 2011, 21:04, archived)
# Absolutely and watch us do it again and again with Sadaam or Bin Laden or Simon Cowell.
The last one is only partly a joke, bandwagon jumping is what these people do.
(, Fri 17 Jun 2011, 21:07, archived)