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# 'I must want to use a computer that actually works for a fucking change because I've got a mac' ;)
That's all it's about, not the minority hipster side of it, which I agree is a bit weird, like obsessive SF fans who wank over ray guns.

Having said that, I haven't used windoze in 5 years; how long do you get between having to switch it off and on again these days?
(I helped save b3ta! Ysol ab abl blap, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 16:08, archived)
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But you are talking about the operating system, not the hardware.


I have not ran windows in years, either, but I dont need to buy overpriced hardware because its the 'cool' thing to do.

(the cool comment, is not aimed specifically at you, just the general apple fanboys, I seem to meet on regular basis)

My largest problem with apple is the price of the hardware, as to the OS I would always default to Linux regardless of hardware, but when I look at the stuff inside a Mac Mini (the newest thing I have pulled apart) and compare the hardware to PC hardware I am always dumbfounded.

Jonathan Ive did design some great good looking stuff though, but for me I would rather have a better system that looked bog standard than a ok spec box that looks fantastic.
(I helped save b3ta! Saner, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 16:11, archived)
# "My largest problem with apple is the price of the hardware"
This. With bells on.
(I helped save b3ta! Joliet, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 16:21, archived)
# That's true,
I was talking about the OS not the hardware (though now you mention it the stuff I've used runs fine anyways). I didn't buy the stuff because it was "cool", I just wanted something that didn't keep freezing/crashing.

Edit: but the OS is a darn sight nicer to use too :)
(I helped save b3ta! Ysol ab abl blap, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 16:24, archived)
# I just wanted something that didn't keep freezing/crashing
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux


I could sort you out a copy, will wrap the disk in some foil and put an orange on the front.

Yours for only 69.99

:D
(I helped save b3ta! Saner, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 16:29, archived)
# I use Linux too :D
for the serious computery stuff* that is. It's unfortunately still not very good for anything media-ish like playing/editing movies, drawing packages etc etc. I always thought of apple OS as like the best of both worlds, as media-savvy as windows but as stable and able to do (some at least) serious computer stuff as Linux.

* (edit) that you wouldn't use windows for anyway
(I helped save b3ta! Ysol ab abl blap, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 16:33, archived)
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I always ask people what they want when anything to do with an OS comes up.

If they want gaming, then windows is the only answer.

If they are not interested in gaming then give the alternatives a shot.

People are often suprised.

I still disagree with apples pricing scheme though, but they are in business and whilst people are willing to pay it then why change.
(I helped save b3ta! Saner, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 16:43, archived)
# agreed :)
(I helped save b3ta! Ysol ab abl blap, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 16:57, archived)
# it must have been the shit that you have loaded on it.
my pc at my old work (over 5 years ago) was on all the time, i did turn it off for weeks end some times, but i think it had a continuous up time of about 3 months at one time.

OS-X is different to use then windows in certain parts i grant you, but both have pluses and minuses in the user experience and both are based on Xerox's desktop environment.
(I helped save b3ta! Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 17:47, archived)
# i agree, it's stupidly expensive
but i have to say, i have owned a macbook pro for all of 18 months and used it pretty much all day every day. I expect to get another couple of years out of it. so maybe 1000+ full days of use. For argument's sake, say it cost £400 over the odds. That's 40p per day to have something really nice to use that never goes wrong. I spend 6 times that on a coffee in the morning that lasts me 5 minutes.
(turbomerl, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 16:46, archived)
# My current windows machine
has been running for the last 3 days non stop with no complaints.
(I helped save b3ta! hooker1uk Filth monger of the lowest degree!, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 16:17, archived)
# the win 7 pc connected to the tv has been running for over 6 months non-stop without issue
90% of windows problems are between keyboard and chair
(I helped save b3ta! Paul_P http://www.Paul-hub.com, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 16:19, archived)
# "90% of windows problems are between keyboard and chair"
This. With bells on.
(I helped save b3ta! Joliet, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 16:21, archived)
# right!
my last pc was 6, maybe 7 years old when it finally died. it worked perfectly up to the end and it was almost NEVER switched it off.
i can't remember having to restart it due to errors, certainly no bsod's ever!
(I helped save b3ta! real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 16:26, archived)
# only time I ever had a crash was playing cod4 with no mic plugged in
it's a software bug on cod and not windows
(I helped save b3ta! Paul_P http://www.Paul-hub.com, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 16:30, archived)
# i still have one of my original PC that i built
it did have a celeron 300a, but i upgraded it to a P2 450, it has 256MB of memory, a Quantum fireball 6.4GB hard drive and an ATI 128 Rage Fury.

it still works perfectly on windows 2000 when i boot it up.
(I helped save b3ta! Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 17:54, archived)
# This is very true
My previous machine worked for weeks on end but would fall over when i used bluetooth or the webcam.
I'm darned sure i broke something else while fixing other bits
(I helped save b3ta! hooker1uk Filth monger of the lowest degree!, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 16:21, archived)
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^^^ This.
(I helped save b3ta! Saner, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 16:27, archived)
# I've never used a single Apple product that hasn't frozen within 5 minutes of me touching it.
iMacs, iPods, iPhones; do I give off some sort of radiation or is it really over-designed tat?
(xaer0mancer, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 18:53, archived)