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# When I.... (and they all start like this)
was 14, I had decided to start messing with occult stuff. Not the 'he who walks backwards' type stuff; just cards, looking into flames, candles, mirrors, all that type of necromancy stuff.

Well, upon starting looking into mirrors you sort of get a feel of things around you (shadows and stuff) moving or growing, so you get a little shitted up about that anyway, but eventually you are able to see past all this misleading disturbance and you are then able to see shapes or patterns. It's these patterns that you make into meaningful things.

One particular night of trying to improve my skills, I happened to notice a shape that appeared like a grave with four people stood around it. The shapes stayed for about 2 mintues, and so I gave up and went to bed.

The next day, I told my brothers about what I saw, and as usual in these things I was laughed at. Amd then 2 days later the news came with one of my brothers friends that his brother had died the night before in a bath - effects of an overdose, syringe still in arm, didn't drown.
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Next?
(, Mon 27 Oct 2003, 22:45, archived)
# I was 5 years old
one of my brothers had a high rise flat...
he messed about with a lot of stuff that I could waffle about.

Anyone wants to hear about any of this.. email me at steponfrog AT yahoo DOT com, because I don't think anyone's following these threads anymore....

anyone?

Hello?

I'm all afucking lone
(, Mon 27 Oct 2003, 22:49, archived)
# no post them on here
every one wants to know
(, Mon 27 Oct 2003, 22:52, archived)
# OK
but they take ages to write and post, so you might be here in the wee early hours... no change for B3tans there then, eh!?
(, Mon 27 Oct 2003, 22:55, archived)
# C'mon then!
Get to writing!

(PLEASE???)
(, Mon 27 Oct 2003, 22:57, archived)
# well im not going to bed yet
you try sleeping after hearing/reading some of this stuf and remembering that you live on top of a funeral parlor
(, Mon 27 Oct 2003, 22:57, archived)
# believe me,
I've been in spookier places... Funeral Palour's are just a passing though point, I think.... I wouldn't worry, unless a tall dark stranger comes to your door - about 7ft, wears a black cloak, carries a knife on a stick, has a grin from ear to ear, and has a strange deep sort of bluish glint to his eyes (well, I say eyes - eye sockets)

Hang on... just getting to another waffle...
(, Mon 27 Oct 2003, 23:18, archived)
# And
talks in ALL CAPTIALS?
(, Wed 29 Oct 2003, 15:17, archived)
# CAPTIALS!
SRACY!
(, Wed 29 Oct 2003, 16:07, archived)
# YPE
erm, yep.
(, Wed 29 Oct 2003, 19:28, archived)
# My brother
lived about halfway up a tall block of flats - early 80's.

He was a dabbler back then, and dabble he did.

two other of my brothers were staying at the flat one night, when dabbler went into his bedroom... obviously everyone knew it was to dabble.

he'd drawn a pentacle on his bedroom floor, and done all the necessary proceedures only to go a bit on the odd side....

my other two brothers heard banging and yelling and some 'awful bowel wrenching utterances' is what they said. But, dabbler really didn't look at all too well - the colour had drawn from his face and it had a more pronounced boney feature to it, and his eyes looked sunken.

Brother 1 & 2 didn't know anything about this dabbling business, except that perhaps the shaddow of the horns of 'he who walks backward's' does something.? They weren't sure, but they tried.

Dabbler having thrown all things and sundry around the room was only left with a cast iron double bed. Now, Brother 1&2 say that dabbler had lifted this bed up from its head, horizontally, with his two bare hands, and threw it at them breaking the wall and knocking some bits out of it and the bed.

Brother 2 raced up behind dabbler and raised his hand between light and dabblers' head, raising two outtermost fingers to form the horns of he.

Immediately dabbler collapsed to the ground, and fell unconcious.

Nothing more was said about it all. But, it doesn't stop there....
(, Mon 27 Oct 2003, 23:30, archived)
# following on from dabbler....
after many years of not messing around with the occult, my brother decided to just take it up in a light type of fashion...

He'd moved into my sisters house about 11-12 years ago, and at that time had picked up a copy of the 'Egyptian Book of The Dead'.

My family think that during that time, we'd all been influenced by odd things on thw whole.

Strange things began happening. My sister started suffering from sleep paralysis, and having really strange nightmares about hideous things and events. Things would move, and arguments would start because of it. Odd noises around the house. It was a very disturbing time.

Anyway, my sister was just begining a degree in psychology, and for one of her coursework thingies had interviewed loads of other students, along with kids (including her own), and adults, etc.

Well, it came to the time when my sister was about to transcribe the tape, and eventually came to the children section, especially when she'd recorded her own child in her house - in the living room...

...that day was quite, which was why she chose then to record her kid speaking. Neighbours were out, husband and family were not anywhere, phone unplugged. Thought to be no disturbance whatsoever. There wasn't; not a single sound but the questions and answers...

...the tape didn't seem to agree with the peacefulness of that day. When her child started speaking, another low mumbling sort of utterance, but angry voice was heard in the background. It was bowel wenching, which rings bells in my other waffles!

So, the questions about the tape came... was it a new tape? Yes. Was there any other noises, like kids outside? No. Were there any other things, like central heating coming on, or such? No, it was a hot summer day, and no need to have water/central heating on... infact it was a hot summer so the heating stayed off all that time, save for when the hot tap was run.

It was all very odd. But, there was definately a sound of a voice in the background.. I still get shivers from the thought of it; I can still hear it in my head, and it sounded nothing of this world!

Soon, after hearing that tape, religious help was saught, and nothing more happened.

But, also... we burned that 'Egyptian Book of The Dead', and I tell you now, I've never seen paper or ink burn so violent and pure blue before, or since, then.
(, Mon 27 Oct 2003, 23:49, archived)
# Huh?
Like a modern "Let's screw with the Egyptians" edition or "Read off the paparyus, typed up on ink" kind?
(, Wed 29 Oct 2003, 1:51, archived)
# Another...
but probably last for tonight, cos it'll probably take me to 2am....

this goes right back to when I was so yong and tiny that I slept in my parents bed...

I was 2, or nearly 3, and I often slept in my parents bed between the two.

At this time, my dad was working at Manchester University Dental Hospital, and he know quite a few people from there, especially one bloke who went around digging up archaelogical things.

This I am told because I have no memory from that time...

It was one night when I complained about my room, and complaining so much I'd got to sleep in my parents room. Quite happy with this, I'd gone straight to sleep.

Around this time, my dad's friend had come back from a dig on scotlands borders somewhere. He also brought back a sort of decayed finger (apparently huge) with a ring, or some king of jewel/ornament on it. My dad was handed it to see if he could do anything with the ornament, clean it up, remove from finger, etc. My dad being a technician at dental hospital had use of equipment to do so, and it being university equipment didn't really cost much to do.

On this night that I'd kicked up so much fuss about my room was on a day when my dad had brought his work home with him. The finger was in the house, but no only that, it was in his bedroom on the dresser.

That night, my mum and dad had woken up to a huge ginger haired and bearded bloke leaning over the bed from the foot of the bed looking directly at me.

Nothing more has ever been said about this, even though I've asked plenty of times, other than that it didn't happen again. But, my dad did take the finger back to the dental hospital the following day, and had nothing more to do with it.

It's the part at night time I'd like to know more about, considering I was there. Mum and Dad won't budge on saying anything about it though. Not sure why.
(, Tue 28 Oct 2003, 1:28, archived)
# Right,
again, last one for tonight... I'm definately tired...

My next eldest brother was found tied up in a box in his bedroom...

I was 1 year old, so I'm only reitterating. But, it was in one of the most spookiest houses the family have ever lived in... don't mean to sound posh... just a 3 bedroomed house in Collyhurst, M/cr.

My brother had kept complaining about a man coming into the bedroom at night to beat him and knock him about so much that my brother hid under the covers (like kids do).

Brother would always wake up next morning with marks of some kind on him, but him being 5 years old, it was all put down to creepy nightmares and banging into the wall during his sleep.

Until... one particular morning my brother was found tied up in a box. No, this wasn't something he could have done himself because he couldn't tie knots at that time, especially the knots that were used... I wouldn't know the name of them, but I've seen one that my dad made and said that was the type - like it was knotted 3 or 4 times.

And, what makes it more so odd is that he wasn't just tied up and thrown in a box. It was his fingers and toes tied together crossed - left to right, visa versa.

The box was cardboard, it was there after being used to move toys and clothes from the previous house (which odly enough was the one where the dog (almost 10 years earlier) was blamed for chewing the night time tea - lump of meat.

The man that kept coming into the bedroom always came through the window, so my dad being thorough checked the locks and stuff. The windows hadn't been opened because although they didn't have locks on them, they were screwed shut. The screws had never budged because they had paint over them, dried and old.

But, then.. again, the help of the local vicar/priest/church was sought and nothing happened after that.

Well, I say nothing happened after that particular event.. something is always happening, so maybe I should be saying that event never happened again.

My brother remembers the whole lot that happened to him, even the features of the mans face down to the clothes he was wearing. What he describes is a witch hunter.

I'm sure we're not witches...

Possibly
(, Tue 28 Oct 2003, 1:46, archived)
# Christ almighty, mate
You lived in what is now "da ghetto". Why can't the ghosts be there now to sort out the scallies.
(, Sat 1 Nov 2003, 20:44, archived)
# Another.... (next day)
My nephew heard drums above his bedroom when he was around 8 years old; a low and bassy drum with a tribal rhythm...

There was some trouble in that part of the family at that time. My sister was constantly stressed, her husband was here, there, and everywhere, and not at home. The two children (my neice and nephew) were just growing up.

My brother-in-law (sister's husband) has a deep African background; when I say deep, I mean as in going far back, not so much as in deep into the middle of Africa, although Ghana is a fairway inside the country.

My B-I-L's father came to visit him during this period of trouble, not to sort out any trouble or help with any difficulties, no his was just a visit as they hadn't seen each other for about 25 years. So, he came over from Ghana to visit, bringing gifts galour.

One of the gifts he brought was a set of tribal drums, authentic and used in tribal get togethers previously, and now handed down as a bridge to cover the gap of 25 lost years.

My B-I-L's father stayed around for a fortnight, said his goodbyes and went. Not much happened while he was here, though it's now thought that he brought more than the usual kind of gifts with him. After all, the announcement of a visit was unexpected, and not the sort of thing you'd probably do after 25 year - phone up and say you're coming to visit, and then go.

Not soon after the visit, my nephew started telling his mum and dad about something he could see in the trees across the road, and that he was getting scared of it. This went on for about 1 month, and then the desription progressed to a 'monkey with long arms'.

Also, at this time one of my other sisters began having nightmares about a 'monkey with a hideous face, and long arms, beating down on her chest as it sat on her stomach, and bearing it's long sharp teeth'.

And, it got into one of my brother's nightmares too... he woke up one night, in the dark, swearing blindly that there was a big dip in the bed as though something really heavy was sat on it. He said he couldn't see a shape or outline, but could feel that something or someone was there, and said 'it must've been fucking huge, if it was a something'.

Items would go missing for days on end. But for that the children were accused of stealing, even though it was never prooved that they were. Nor was anything that was stolen found in their possession / rooms. Stuff would just turn up in stupid and unusual places, like knives in the freezer, wallet in the bath (actually in a bath full of water)...

One day my mothers' cross and chain was found outside the house on the footpath at the front door. This chain wasn't broken in any way; it was difficult to take it off even when someone else tried to unclasp it. It was found on the floor as though someone had actually taken it off, rather than pull at it, or it being pulled by a coat collar, or jumper or something.

Whilst all this eebie geebie stuff was happening, so too was the tension growing in the family. Arguments and fights and all sorts of stuff happening all the time (which is probably normal from brothers and sisters), but it was constant. Never did the trouble subside even a little tiny bit. And, the trouble only started around the time of this visit from Ghana.

There was no link made at the time between the Tribal Drums and trouble, or monkey, and was only thought of almost a year later.

Well, with two kids and a bit of trouble going on all the time, you'd want to put any valuables away, so the tribal drums were relegated to the attic: hiding place then only known to my B-I-L and my sister.

My nephew then began telling us of how he couldn't sleep very well because he could hear drums at night. His work at school wasn't doing very well, and his teachers had complained at how he'd sleep at his desk. 'Are there any troubles at home?' The teachers would ask.

The monkey had also began 'pointing' at my nephew, 'making horrible angry faces' at him, and shaking its fists and showing it's pointy teeth

My nephew would, for most of the time, sleep in his sisters room, due to being shite scarred. And, whilst the monkey was in the tree, he wouldn't go out and play, nor would he stand near the windows because, he said, it could see him.

So as things went on more thought went into where these drum noises could be coming from, and therefore, the next-door neighbours felt the brunt of it. But, sometime after accusing the neighbours they went away, leaving the house empty. And so, no-one could be accused of making drum noises, or playing music.

Then (it must have been about 2 1/2 to 3 months after the visit) that the shit really hit the fan in the family. My B-I-L and sister split up; B-I-L moved out, taking his stuff with him but leaving the drums in the attic - he'd forgotten them, and so had everyone else for the time.

My nephew's noise problem hadn't settled down, and so it only came obvious then that no-one had gone into the attic above his bedroom to see if there was a loose banging pipe, or loose roof tile, or something that could be attributed to some sort of low bassy rythmic beating.

There were no pipes in the attic. No, loose tiles on the roof. There was a set of 2 African Tribal Drums in that attic directly above my nephew's bed, though.

The drums were given back to my B-I-L , and all bother stopped. My other sister didn't have nightmares of monkeys beating on her chest, nor did my nephew see it ever again, and the drum noises stopped.

Now, if the monkey was a monkey or not, we don't know - orangutan, monkey, gibbon... we're not experts, but my sister said she'd never seen anything like it before, and that she could only think of a monkey type creature when she saw it in her nightmares. My nephew nowadays says that all he can remember of this monkey type thing is that it looked like a monkey, 'but,' he said. 'I'm not an expert.'

When the trouble did stop, the family were all happy and fine again. We still are happy and fine. But, my sister and children left that house and moved elsewhere. We haven't the heart to tell the new homeowners about what happened.
(, Tue 28 Oct 2003, 23:56, archived)
# That whole monkey thing has given me the
willies.

Scariest story so far.
(, Fri 31 Oct 2003, 10:42, archived)
# OK,
but they take ages to write and post (in the correct place...) so, be patient please
(, Mon 27 Oct 2003, 22:57, archived)
# There is a ghost in this house now,
well, I say ghost, it's a mischievous twat!

six years ago, my partner and I moved into our brand new lovely house. And, the student who lived here previously had painted all sorts of things on the walls, which are still there lurking beneath the fluffy coverings.

not more than 3 weeks after moving into this house I began getting all the excited senses of something lurking (which could be perception playing tricks, I know), but I'd put it off as a new house and creepy feelings.

I had no job at the time, and my girlfriend was out all day working in Leeds, so for her part she was away for around 12 hours a day, whereas I was on my own for 12 hours.

I have mentioned my sleep paralysis and disturbances above, but basically I feel as though I am falling down / dragged in a clockwise movement.

This paralysis still goes on, but at that time I was finding it difficult to drag myself awake. I was waking up in sweats and all sorts of panic.

One day it was absolutely terrifying... I swear I could see little black imp type things, six of them, as I remember, perching - two at the head of my bed and three at the bottom while one just ran about the middle on all fours... no they were definatley not rats.

I couldn't move out of that parylsis, but I could see the little bastards, taunting me, and looking very evil indeed.

That night, I managed to get to sleep, but not without fearing a figure in the corner of the room near the door. It looked like a shaddow, or just a darkened part of the room, but it wasn't I could tell after trying to tell myself that it was something different and normal, that it was definately a figure in black. I had, as usual, fallen into paralysis again...

I swear on my balls that I woke up being placed back on my bed by a figure that had a boars face and two sharp pointy teeth sticking up from the bottom of it's jaw (want a picture?)...

affter that one, I saught religious help.

I haven't seen any of those figures since, and I don't expect to, but I can definately feel something about the place.

Not so many weeks ago, I was standing at the top of our stairs, just about to walk down them, when moving my first foot my second felt some pressure at the back of the calf, and I went sliding down them halfway....

But! one thing that I was told early in my life was that you can't let these things break you apart because they do try to take over you and your life... and they will if you let them.

I've saught more advice about recent happenings, though.
(, Mon 27 Oct 2003, 23:14, archived)
# You have sleep paralysis.
Best thing to do is to go back to sleep when it happens.
(, Mon 27 Oct 2003, 23:42, archived)
# thankyou
I've always wondered about it being that or not, but there you go.. now I know.
(, Mon 27 Oct 2003, 23:53, archived)
# sleep paralysis
is a bitch
(, Tue 28 Oct 2003, 11:47, archived)
# im follwing them
im just waiting patiently

plus if you post em here, you might get a mention on the radio
(, Mon 27 Oct 2003, 22:57, archived)
# some of these
may be posted in the wrong part of this thread, but bear with me, please...
(, Mon 27 Oct 2003, 23:32, archived)
# right...
this next one involves a picture, so be even more patient, please...
(, Tue 28 Oct 2003, 0:12, archived)
# this involves a picture.
make of it what you will, but take note that the picture was taken in one of the spooky houses I've lived in.



click here for better detail.

This was taken around the same time as dabbler had the 'Egyptian Book of The Dead', he was messing around with all sorts, including this particular nice peice of rose quartz used for his divination purposes. (btw, dabler is my brother, if you haven't read the rest of these waffles, then do so... they all interlink each other somehow. For my family they do at least.)

I had recently (at time of taking photo) started a course in Black & White photography, which I thoroughly enjoyed. I took a liking to using extension tubes, to get in to really tight nooks and crannies so to speak, and get those really close-up piccies that look great on a wall.

Anyway, one night I'd decided to have use of my brothers (dabblers) crystals just for the sole purpose of taking close up shots.

Now, when I set the camera up, which does take a while with close up stuff, nothing was able to move (you check these things, because you don't want a crap photo), niether camera nor subject. Although, there's always the chance that something will happen.

Anyhow, I took the photo and left it for about a week, having finished the reel of 24 shot film, and went and developed it.

And, what do you see?

I'd have thought nothing of it (and maybe no other person will), but I can't dismiss the fact that the crystal was of dabblers possesion.

This isn't a ghost story (or maybe it is I don't know), but I really needed a change for a while, go and get some food and brew and whatnot...
...Just remember though, that this thing was used for divination purposes, and it is said that crystals accumulate energies...

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details of photo are:

Ricoh camera (not sure of make), but Through The Lens metering used.
F2.8, 2 second shot, black and white film 35mm @ 200asa.
extension tubes used = 54mm, and a 140mm telephoto lense added. Unsure of distance from subject to film, though.
subject was an inch high peice of rose quartz, placed on a stable flat surface, although, the subject was further stablised using a large piece of blue tack.
The environment was around 16Celcius, and non-natural light - ie, striplight and a spot light 100W bulb.
Edit: Multi-grade Ilford A4 paper, but I can't remember the development times, of lense apperture.
(, Tue 28 Oct 2003, 0:41, archived)
# sometimes
crystals 'hum'. i nearly dropped one in a shop once because it made my arms shake when i picked it up.
(, Tue 28 Oct 2003, 0:43, archived)
# Yay!
Ppl are still reading my waffles... Woo, Yay!

I'm still plodding on with em, cos I've not been asked to stop, after being asked to post all I know.
(, Tue 28 Oct 2003, 0:49, archived)
# no really
keep going, i wasn't tired anyway... really...

*sips coffee and huddles up in nervous pile*

;)

jessx
(, Tue 28 Oct 2003, 0:51, archived)
# Anyway,
back to this current house.

I still see figures from the corner of my eyes, the most sensitive parts (supposedly - I don't know).

There is one figure at the moment spending a little too much time worrying me.. It's always at a distance though - 6 to 8 feet, always, and sometimes circling around me as though eying me, weighing me up.

Yes, it can all be taken as paranoia of some kind, delusions of one or another, or even bull-crap. But, I've passed all those 'am I going mad' thoughts about 6 years ago, when we first moved into this house.

Anyway, the figure, so far as I can tell, wears a hooded robe type of thing, I haven't seen a face, because it's too far out of my direct vision to notice any really specific details. However, I have seen a space in the hood of the robe.

I say I haven't seen a face in the hood of the robe, which worries me more, but not too much worry, because it's important to not let these things get to you - but they sometimes do!

The robe colour is black, or dark so I perceive it as black. I haven't seen any kind of flesh either, ie hands, feet, etc. More worry!

There are certain parts of this house that I cannot stand in or even go to at times, due to feeling very uneasy about it. I trust my feelings nowadays.

When something is about to happen, visitation or sighting, or something, the atmosphere always gets really cold and a few times I've seen the air I'm breathing because of the cold. Always over a short period of time no longer than about half to 1 minute, the temperature will drop. And, the visitaions will last at least 10 minutes.

The pets squawk and make awful noises sometimes, but I'm not sure if this is something I've not ruled out... but it's odd when they do. For no reason they all start flapping, and jumping, and all sorts, as though something had scared them.

I am trying to build up the courage to walk around the house recording the sounds... thing is though, I'm certain I'll record something I don't really want to hear.
(, Tue 28 Oct 2003, 1:12, archived)
# just finished reading all you rstuff mate.
You could always record the sounds, and upload them or something without listening yourself for others to listen to for you. Providing you can trust the people not to lie about what they hear just to try and freak you out.
(, Tue 28 Oct 2003, 2:14, archived)
# Its normal
Its the energy from the stone- ours around the house do it all the time (yeah, my family are 'alternative medicine' kinda people). They get stronger around Full moons ('female' energy or something) Thats why some people carry/wear crystals most of the time.
(, Tue 28 Oct 2003, 11:52, archived)
# And sometimes they burn
I've burned my fingertips and hands on some of my "dabbling" friend's crystals.

ow.
(, Sat 1 Nov 2003, 17:34, archived)
# that's
spectacularly creepy..! i'm wincing myself to bits.. gah!
(, Tue 28 Oct 2003, 6:57, archived)
# I see it!
took me a while tho. if i had taken that foto i doubt i wud have ever noticed. thats damn creepy. it reminds me of a demonic mime artist. no wait, just a mime artist :P
(, Wed 29 Oct 2003, 19:29, archived)
# what am i looking at here?
i just see rocks atm.
(, Tue 28 Oct 2003, 10:06, archived)
# Domokun
(, Tue 28 Oct 2003, 14:06, archived)
# no disrespect
but what am i looking for? it's a blurry photo of a bit of quartz.
(, Tue 28 Oct 2003, 18:08, archived)
# Ah, well.
What are you looking for? This is the point; are you looking for something ready to jump out at you or just a rock?

If I told you what other people see, I'd be accused of prompting you to see that thing other people see, rather than what you actually see.

Therefore, make your own mind up...

Something / Nothing ?
(, Tue 28 Oct 2003, 21:25, archived)
# I see things!
I see things, I see them with my eyes,
I see things, though they're cleverly disguised, like: faces, people, ugly monkeys!
His mouth, btw, is (in my opinion) the reflection of an upside down monkey.
(, Tue 28 Oct 2003, 22:23, archived)
# hmm. i am trying to look with open mind
possibly suggestion of teeth and little black things, might be considered a skull if you were being generous. is it something in the reflection?
(, Wed 29 Oct 2003, 12:46, archived)
# Not certain
if it's reflection.

I was in a kitchen, standing about 50cm to 1m away from subject, stooping behind a camera & tripod.

Kitchen had what you'd expect in a kitchen - utensils, etc.
(, Thu 30 Oct 2003, 20:00, archived)
# I see nothing
Except Domokun at an angle. What do others see?
(, Wed 29 Oct 2003, 15:04, archived)
# i see
bugger all

suggest away.
(, Thu 30 Oct 2003, 13:57, archived)
# surely,
you're able to read what others have put... why should I put an image in your head; I have put a story for you to decide it's truth/reality and/or actual/sugested/expected image in picture. Whatever you want it to be.

If it's imagination you want to use, copy the post from above. Or, just read the previous post I added saying that I saw a face. =)
(, Thu 30 Oct 2003, 19:58, archived)
# wishy washy
load of bollocks that ;)
(, Fri 31 Oct 2003, 10:06, archived)
# I See Dead People..oh, wait, it's just a reflection.
I can see a face in it, with a Michael Myersesque figure behind him. It looks kind of like the reflection of the photographer, with someone over their shoulder looking at them. It is quite freaky, actually.
(, Wed 29 Oct 2003, 16:43, archived)
# Ugh!
arrrgh! and all the usual stuff...

Yep, I saw a face. This picture was taken in a kitchen. The crystal was nicely stuck to a worktop, and I was stood behind the camera with a shutter release cable in my hand... Either I look a bit malnutritioned, or kitchen utensils have a tendancy to appear as what you see.

?

Not sure...

=)
(, Wed 29 Oct 2003, 23:37, archived)
# Obviously
I'm not spookily minded today because all I can see is a crystal. : (
(, Thu 30 Oct 2003, 13:46, archived)
# I coulda sworn
that something moved near the bottom of the photo, sideways from right to left. Are you sure you havent animated that gif styley?
(, Fri 31 Oct 2003, 10:51, archived)
# who is
'he who walks backwards' ?
(, Thu 30 Oct 2003, 9:45, archived)