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# They practice what they preach...

/edit: this was supposed to be a simple comment based on my perception of the current state of the UKIP. Based on...

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It's interesting that one of it's members thinks he is more important than everyone else and should be in charge... a bit like Germany really.

...anyway, there's a bunch of posts that follow and some are (un?)expectedly naïve/barmy/paranoid/un-fluffy or just plain wrong.

(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:23, archived)
# good point well made
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:24, archived)
# It...
...struck me that they were a microcosm of the problems facing European union. Two possibilities... on one hand they could be effective if united, on the the other, self-interest can undermine them.
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:31, archived)
# Not possible at the moment
We're in the devolution swing in History

I couldn't believe that they are considering giving the NE its own "parliment"

more money being wasted on more useless self serving wankers
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:38, archived)
# Luckily it looks like
there's not enough public support for it to happen.

Which isn't suprising, considering the whole regionalist thing is a Scottish/Welsh attempt to break up England and counteract the influence we have on national politics through having 10 times more people then they do
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:44, archived)
# Nah,
The Welsh neer wanted an assembly. Less than half of the country voted, and only 53% of those that did vote said yes.

I did hear tell that it was largely a europe-driven initiative: apparrently the UK as one unit had too much voting power in the E.U., so we've been subdivided into smaller units with much less power.

The other theory is that it was just to stop the welsh from whining "..but the scots got one, why can't we?".

Speaking as a welshman, the Assembly is a load of bollocks.
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 23:03, archived)
# Fantastic idea
Take it to its logical extreme and I'll have my own parliament. Sounds good to me.
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:47, archived)
# woo
houpla to political shoppings!
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:25, archived)
# I they ever win an election
I am going to laugh and laugh

Then I will storm parliment during prime ministers question time and kill them all
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:26, archived)
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:34, archived)
# careful they don't sue you for that.
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:26, archived)
# I hope they dont...
...I was only hoping to make a fair (if silly) comment.
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:34, archived)
# Twas a reference to
this - hope it all gets resolved soon so that the twat threatening to sue on behalf of Killroy can get back to his important task of saving the country by stealing metric road signs.
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:38, archived)
# I think I'm safe then
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:41, archived)
you do know who the site belongs to, right?
cough *b3tan*
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 23:01, archived)
# I semi-agree
with the UKIP in that we should stop 'open-doors' immigration and stop sucking up to the Americans and Europe, but the whole racism element is what puts me off them. If they stopped being a bunch of wankers they'd have my support.

Still, if Bush gets another 4 years, we want rid of Blair, definately.
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:27, archived)
# The problem with extremist political parties
is that they tend to say things in a reasonable manner that you can't really argue with... Jean Marie le Pen has been making a living from this in France for 40 years...
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:30, archived)
# Ah, but they don't want us to stop sucking up to the Americans
in fact, they'd have us in NAFTA the second we left the EU. Which is one of the reasons why they disgust me so much- they wrap themselves in the flag and go on about British independence while simultaneously wanting to make us a wholly owned subsiduary of the Americans.

/little bit of politics
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:31, archived)
# Meh,
well Blair's pretty much turned us into the 53rd State of America anyway, fantastical twunt that he is.
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:32, archived)
# we don't have 'open-doors' immigration
the fact that an orange twat says it doesn't make it so
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:32, archived)
# Well I like the US's
immigration policy - either get a doctorate or pay enough money to cover you and your family, forever. If you don't have that, you don't get in. Simple.
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:35, archived)
# i'd prefer my government...
to display a little compassion for fellow human beings
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:38, archived)
# I'd prefer mine
to look after the people who are already here, and bollocks to the rest of the world - their job is to make sure we're alright, not anyone else. That's their problem - unless they pay handsomely.
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:39, archived)
# how very callous
in particular when so many problems worldwide result, at least in part, from our interference and domination over many years...

i do believe i'll stop this conversation here though... there doesn't appear to be much point in continuing...
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:42, archived)
# I just don't see
what relevance people on the other side of the world have to the average person in Britain - the person the government should be most concerned about.

Meh, agree to disagree.

(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:45, archived)
# well..
somebody must have some nukes
i reckon thatd have quite an effect
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:49, archived)
# who told you that?
I can assure you that is not the way it is. US imigration policy is far from perfect, but it's not what you said.
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:53, archived)
# Well it's somebody's...
and if it's not, it's mine, and you can't have it. nerr.
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 23:09, archived)
# Can you do one that says
"UKIP: A big bunch of cunts"?
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:42, archived)
# I'm...
...sure they're normally very nice. But when they get together they just don't get along...
(, Tue 19 Oct 2004, 22:45, archived)