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# Just because a thread is here
doesn't make it good.


3rd law of thermodynamics. (is it the third law?) - constantly bastardised by the creationists to suit their own ends by removing the most important part of it.

Thank you, Dave Gorman.

Oh and by the way, I'm a Christian before you start.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 10:47, archived)
# Yeah but you're a Chistian of the boozy shaggy shaggy persuasion:P
'ningles matey.
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 10:49, archived)
# I had a house mate who said
You can only call yourself Christian if you follow all the rules. If you don't you just believe in God you're not a christian.
(I helped save b3ta! cooler_king That's no moon!, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 10:50, archived)
# I'll let God judge me, thanks.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 10:54, archived)
# ^This
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 10:55, archived)
# ^ so much this
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 10:55, archived)
# That's what i used to say.
I kept saying that when i comes to it i think me and Jesus would get on quite well.

(I helped save b3ta! cooler_king That's no moon!, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 10:56, archived)
# What do you say now?
What you've been told to say, or what you truly believe? Did you change your beliefs after you 'used' to say that, or did you not truly believe it in the first place?

Honestly not getting tetchy, I'm just curious as to what changed.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 10:57, archived)
# Well i don't live with her anymore so that's why i used to say it.
Myself i'm agnostic. I can't see how one religion can be right and all the others are wrong. I think there may be a God or a higher being. I'm just happy living my life and doing what i think is right and if it means theres a chance i'll go to hell for it. I'm happy with that.

I fully respect people who have faith and often talk about religion with them. So I don't think you're being tetchy.

p.s. can i be in your crew?
(I helped save b3ta! cooler_king That's no moon!, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:01, archived)
# That's fair enough
I can see both sides of the coin as it were- I wasn't born Christian so coming to terms with my faith took a long while and a LOT of thinking!

It's nice to have a grown up conversation about it, I must say.

You can, if you can think of a good title for yourself.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:03, archived)
# Spiritual Advisor?
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:05, archived)
# Ohh now that's a good one.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:10, archived)
# something involving Pianos and Smuggling goes down well, usually
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:05, archived)
# I am surrounded by frigging pianos.
And they make horrible noises when they crash against the sides of the ship.

NO MORE. Smuggle me some DVDs or something.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:07, archived)
# Can I change to
Mad-eyed storyteller? There's always one who lurks in the shadows to spin tales of Salty Jack, the man eating catfish
(I helped save b3ta! AutoPrawn is glad we're living in the future now, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:14, archived)
# definitely, I like that.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:27, archived)
# So can i be this please
'The ships Ghost (The Ghost of ex Admiral with a massive moustache)'
(I helped save b3ta! cooler_king That's no moon!, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:28, archived)
# Oy, I've just added you as a spiritual advisor and professional sceptic.
Can't I just add (deceased) to it?
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:29, archived)
# could you also add
aka 'The ships Ghost (The Ghost of ex Admiral with a massive moustache)'

:)
(I helped save b3ta! cooler_king That's no moon!, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:32, archived)
# Goodness sake!
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:43, archived)
# Hahaha I love the bracket text
(I helped save b3ta! AutoPrawn is glad we're living in the future now, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:30, archived)
# Yeah
I have lots of questions about christianity but to be honest usually i never get answers in reply it's always another question.

Errm i'll go away and think of a job.
(I helped save b3ta! cooler_king That's no moon!, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:07, archived)
# Christianity Questioner General
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:09, archived)
# Nice
But i was thinking more 'The ships Ghost (The Ghost of ex Admiral with a massive moustache)'
(I helped save b3ta! cooler_king That's no moon!, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:13, archived)
# good call
(I helped save b3ta! AutoPrawn is glad we're living in the future now, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:14, archived)
# Thanks
I may even do a picture of myself.
(I helped save b3ta! cooler_king That's no moon!, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:21, archived)
# ^I pretty much agree with this
I'm a vague Christian, I am also a scientist. I'm perfectly happy to argue with morons on either side of the argument.

Personally, I think that the people who are violently anti-religion are probably scared that God does exist and the people who are violently anti- any sort of discussion about science explaining how God's Universe works are probably scared that He doesn't exist.
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:10, archived)
# I think that makes a lot of sense
and seems as we're having this discussion, for my two bits I struggle to see or feel a divine presence in anything... and I also think religion gets used (by certain people) to stop people asking questions about things, which I don't think is a good thing.
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:17, archived)
# True
I'm not a fan of big organised religions. People are unfoortunately subject to human nature so anything that can influence people will be used by the unscrupulous to advance themselves. Religion is just one of these things, as are money, land, food etc.
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:22, archived)
# ^--This
FTW
(I helped save b3ta! joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:38, archived)
# my dad was an agnostic and my mother was an atheist
... they couldn't decide which religion not to bring me up in

/wood allen blog
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:08, archived)
# haha
what a quote
(I helped save b3ta! cooler_king That's no moon!, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:09, archived)
# Well I'm sure he'd give you a 6.9!
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 10:57, archived)
# I definitely want world peace
and a nice BLT baguette.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:02, archived)
# YOU WANT TOO MUCH!
there is no baguette!
(I helped save b3ta! Aphex The Mink Snackless, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:04, archived)
# that with fucking 50 ft tall throbbing neon signs
if the initator of this thread is not god, then he can fuck off, as he don't know shit

:D
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:02, archived)
# Judge not, lest ye be judged.
As far as I'm concerned most of the bible was written by men, and men are subject or bias etc. I go with what feels right, and try to live my life in as altruistic a way as I can. That's what I consider important in being of this faith- treating everyone with love and respect.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:06, archived)
# that's the point innt
exactly the point

people that presume to speak gods will unto those who must be educated/saved etc

wonder what the odds are of space in hell for such hubris

and I'm sure that jesus would metaphorically kick these people's arses
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:08, archived)
# Couldn't agree more
Just reading through Leviticus, it's obviously written by some mad, bitter old priest with a chip on his shoulder about owls (amongst other things)
(I helped save b3ta! fuscous, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:13, archived)
# You'll let gOD judge you?
Wait, you're going to let that useless narcissistic twat who likes to torture people in hell for all eternity just cause they farted in a lift one too many times determine the eternity of your afterlife?

Great, you spend the whole of your life abiding by dumb and pointless commandments about pigs and stuff while he constantly zaps shit with lightning and buries people in earthquakes, just to get to heaven where you have to spend the rest of eternity with Jerry Falwell and a load of cross-eyed homophobics.

I choose hell.
(MeteoriK, Fri 15 Jun 2007, 13:29, archived)
# Bollocks
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 10:54, archived)
# Hmm
Out of interest, why would you trust Jesus to be your saviour if you can't trust him as your creator? Why would you believe him when he tells you of eternal life when you believe he's lying to you about our origins? (read John 3:12)
(Strangemiester, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 10:52, archived)
# You ARE Dot Cotton
AICMFP
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 10:54, archived)
# haha
"Ohh my Nick was a good lad really."
(I helped save b3ta! cooler_king That's no moon!, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 10:55, archived)
# I confess to having such a crush on Nick Cotton when I was younger.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 10:56, archived)
# haha
"You Slaaaaag!"


/eastendersblog
(I helped save b3ta! cooler_king That's no moon!, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:09, archived)
# Because I have a right to my own opinion- Jesus had that too.
And no matter what happens, I will love God in my own way, without dogmatism or prejudice.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 10:55, archived)
# I think I love you
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 10:56, archived)
# Well I'm a very loveable person
It's understandable.

Heheh *big hugs* that's a lovely thing to say.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 10:58, archived)
# Well you just expressed my feelings perfectly
I shall steal that phrase and use it everywhere
(Mrs Trellis GIN, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:04, archived)
# :D T SHIRT!
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:13, archived)
# Jesus's opinion was God's opinion
Being the same person and all! So you are saying that your opinion is more important than that of a perfect God - are you elevating yourself to a higher status of understanding than God himself? How could you love a God when you look down on him like that? I am glad that you love God, but I don't understand why you would. If his perfect Word is so pick-and-mix, why would you be inclined to believe any of it in the first place? I wouldn't like to love your mistake-making, deceiving god at all :(
(Strangemiester, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:45, archived)
# How odd
the God I read about gave us free will.
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:54, archived)
# You actually haven't read anything I've said.
So to stop you twisting my words (a disgusting habit you should look into) I'm not giong to give you any more.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 12:10, archived)
# i don't trust jesus
i trust the scientific process.

on which creationisims fantastical view on the world doesn't quite fit.
(I helped save b3ta! Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:17, archived)
# Hang on - where does it say Jesus created us?
(I helped save b3ta! joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 11:39, archived)