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# Ha!
I was actually having this row with my mother last night. She actually thinks that her version is really good.

All this despite the fact that she loves the Buckley version, and she saw Cohen a couple of weeks ago!
(, Thu 18 Dec 2008, 12:56, archived)
# To be fair I've not heard your mother's version
(, Thu 18 Dec 2008, 12:56, archived)
# me neither
didn't realise it WASN'T Jeff Buckley's originally
(, Thu 18 Dec 2008, 12:58, archived)
# O Rly?
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rf36v0epfmI

To be honest with you, it is one of those cases where a person has made a song rather than writing it.

For reference see Jealous Guy by Roxy Music, With a litlle help from my friends by Joe Cocker and many many more....
(, Thu 18 Dec 2008, 13:00, archived)
# but Buckley would never have recorded it
had he not heard Cale's version and decided "oooh, i can release a version that's identical to that :)"

Buckley comes under the same banner as Cobain and Lennon, he died while people still liked him, so he can do no wrong in the eyes of his fans. fucking hero worship for frankly mediocre talents (yeh Buckley had the voice, but could he write for shit? we'll never know)
(, Thu 18 Dec 2008, 13:03, archived)
# Grace seems to have:
Some very good covers...

A couple of decent originals...

Some filler...

Jury's out I'd say.
(, Thu 18 Dec 2008, 13:08, archived)
# but Grace
was thrown together, VERY quickly after he recorded the track for his dad's tribute album and only 4 of the tracks are written by him (there are several co-writes, but there's no way of telling how much input he had so they don't count)

I still don't think that Buckley's Hallelujiah is anything special, nor do i think he'd have had the success he has had if he hadn't died. To be fair he'd probably still be working and recording, but he'd not have the massive "fan" base that he has today
(, Thu 18 Dec 2008, 13:14, archived)
# Well I think you are way off there.
The Cohen Version: uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rf36v0epfmI

The Cale Version: uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vEOZLQ3d1FI&feature=related

The Buckley Version: uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AratTMGrHaQ&feature=related

I think they are extremely different from each other.

Also, Grace was a brilliant album, made up pretty much completely of songs that he had written, so yeah, you can judge whether he was a good songwriter.

Also, you may not like Lennon and Cobain yourself, but the fact is that they have sold countless millions of records over the world, so they can't be that shit.
(, Thu 18 Dec 2008, 13:10, archived)
# The two best songs are covers though...
(, Thu 18 Dec 2008, 13:12, archived)
# Hallelujah and Lilac Wine?
Maybe, but there are some other crackers on there. In my opinion of course. I absolutely love the album, but I can understand cs192's point about the dying young people and the cultish attitude towards them,
(, Thu 18 Dec 2008, 13:20, archived)
# I was thinking of Corpus Christi Carol...
But I do love a bit of Benjamin Britten...
(, Thu 18 Dec 2008, 13:24, archived)
# Ah fair enough.
That is a stonker of a cover though. He did a cracking job!

(, Thu 18 Dec 2008, 13:29, archived)
# I think Eternal Life is the best track
(, Thu 18 Dec 2008, 13:26, archived)
# Tis a cracker!
I think we can all agree then, Grace by Jeff Buckley is an awesome album and anyone who disagrees is a loser ;D
(, Thu 18 Dec 2008, 13:37, archived)
# but...but...but
didn't Buckley only become famous AFTER he died, like Van Gogh?
(, Thu 18 Dec 2008, 13:26, archived)
# Ha ha ha!
FUCK YOU BARBARA! ;D
(, Thu 18 Dec 2008, 12:58, archived)
# ;)
(, Thu 18 Dec 2008, 13:00, archived)
# cherry yoghurt hits screen moment there
(, Thu 18 Dec 2008, 12:59, archived)