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# Last bollocks from me for tonight, you can rest easy now.

substantially bigger.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 22:45, archived)
# That am gurd
but I don't know why
(I helped save b3ta! Fitznicely into a thimble, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 22:47, archived)
# Well, go with what you like.
To wish for more understanding is the path to foolishness.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 22:49, archived)
# your art makes me confused. I don't know how you do it.
It makes the insides of my face feel burny.

woo!
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 22:47, archived)
# *applies salve*
I'm sorry - that's really not the intention, sir.
:(
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 22:48, archived)
# Salve? *Researches*
Gah! The missing link in today's quick crossword. Cheers mysterious powers of the internet.
(I helped save b3ta! elephant rider property shark sighted!, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 22:51, archived)
# Wow
I like this, I can't figure out what it resembles at all!
(I helped save b3ta! Tangy bzzzzzzzzt, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 22:49, archived)
# To me
it looks like how IDM sounds.
(I helped save b3ta! Fitznicely into a thimble, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 22:50, archived)
# That's a good description
It's like organically synthetic, or synthetically organic, or something like that. Not natural-looking but not constructed either.
(I helped save b3ta! Tangy bzzzzzzzzt, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 22:59, archived)
# Exumptly!
(I helped save b3ta! Fitznicely into a thimble, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:06, archived)
# IDM?
Sorry, I'm a bit slow.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:01, archived)
# "Intelligent Dance Music"
www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=77:11690

Basically mad stuff like Aphex Twin. Never been a fan :/
(I helped save b3ta! Tangy bzzzzzzzzt, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:04, archived)
# With you.
Some of it is ok - I wouldn't say I'm a signed up fan.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:08, archived)
# It means "Intelligent Dance Music"
An uber-poncey title no doubt dreamed up by a fan of the genre who thought it made him somehow cleverer than fans of other musical types.
Includes music by Aphex Twin, Autechre, Boards of Canada Squarepusher and Venetian Snares.

Also known as "braindance" or electronica by the less poncey.
(I helped save b3ta! Fitznicely into a thimble, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:04, archived)
# Looks like some Breakcore and some Electronica to me.
I've always disliked the term 'IDM' too.
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:06, archived)
# Yeah it's right up it's own arse
Like the title "progressive rock"
But it DOES kinda has a specific meaning. I take it to mean something less ambient than electronica but more chilled than breakcore.
And as much as I dislike the name I love the music.
(I helped save b3ta! Fitznicely into a thimble, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:08, archived)
# But Venetian Snares is just Breakcore.
His new album, Filth, has leaked by the way.
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:12, archived)
# Yeah primarily
but a lot of his more classically influenced stuff fits a lot more into the IDM/braindance category.
Not a perfect example though

And i bet that's something of a clue to haw it sounds...I do like Venetian Snares, but it can really give you a fucking headache.
(I helped save b3ta! Fitznicely into a thimble, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:18, archived)
# YES YES YES thanks for the tip-off
:D
(I helped save b3ta! Shlvng, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:35, archived)
# Breakcore?
Is that like skiffle?
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:09, archived)
# SHRUG.
Today I found two new artists I like. I am happy.
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:11, archived)
# Make it three!
www.myspace.com/senorscram
(I helped save b3ta! Tangy bzzzzzzzzt, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:13, archived)
# "Ska/Drum & Bass/Hardcore"
HELL NAW.
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:14, archived)
# Ska/Drum?
WTF?

Ska/Drum? Ska - That's The Selector, or The Special AKA - it's already got drums!

What is going on here?
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:16, archived)
# Ska /// Drum & Bass /// Hardcore
It's hard to explain really, but I love it to bits
(I helped save b3ta! Tangy bzzzzzzzzt, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:27, archived)
# Well, allow me to me happy for you.
You're awfully young, please don't expect me to understand.
Sorry.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:14, archived)
# I'm TWENTY AND ONE HALF.
Doug Paisley (folk) and Caroline Keating (singer-songwriter). THEY'RE BOTH REAL GOOD.
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:16, archived)
# Yes.
As I mentioned, I'm more than twice your age. I'm really not criticising, that would be stupid of me.
It's just that I saw Devo, the Clash, and The Buzzcocks before you were even born, I have difficulty relating to these genre-mash things...
I'm sorry.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:19, archived)
# I guess I shouldn't mention shoegaze then?
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:20, archived)
# Urgh i remember telling my girlfriend about My Bloody Valentine
she looked at me and said "Don't you mean BULLET for my Valentine?"

*shudders*
She does have awful taste in music, bless her.
(I helped save b3ta! Fitznicely into a thimble, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:22, archived)
# Urrrggghhhhh.
If that's your type of thing Bardo Pond make some rather good psyche-rock/shoegaze.
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:26, archived)
# What does that mean?
I'm really not being difficult - but what does that actually mean?

I thought some of the Mad-Chester bands were shoe-gazers, I'm evidently wrong.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:25, archived)
# It's a genre which came from Alternative rock and peaked in the mid 90's.
"Common musical elements of shoegazing consist of distortion, droning riffs and a "wall of sound" from, sometimes two, noisy guitars. Typically, two distorted rhythm guitars are played together to give an amorphous quality to the sound. Although lead guitar riffs were often present, they were not the central focus of most shoegazing songs."
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:31, archived)
# So, The Jesus & Mary Chain, yes?
Seen them too.

;-)
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:35, archived)
# You're quite the promiscuous one, Paul.
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:38, archived)
# Can you not do that, please?
I have asked you repeatedly, nicely, etc etc etc
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:40, archived)
# Huh?
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:44, archived)
# I know you have no issue with the *actual* names thing
but could you please stop with me, I have asked you before.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:45, archived)
# Fine.
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:46, archived)
# Thank you for your understanding, sir.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:47, archived)
# Devo eh?
Maximum respect my good fellow
(I helped save b3ta! Fitznicely into a thimble, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:21, archived)
# First Concert I ever went to.
Siouxsie and the Banshees and Kraftwerk being the following.....if memory serves.

I'm actually rather proud.

(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:24, archived)
# Kraftwerk?
Then you are somewhat acquainted with the forefathers of IDM then.(and just about every other kind of electronic music I understand)
(I helped save b3ta! Fitznicely into a thimble, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:25, archived)
# Ahhh.... Right!
All is becoming clear.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:29, archived)
# Make it four!
With the sensual skweee sounds of Randy Barracuda
www.myspace.com/randybarracudaofimatranvoima
(I helped save b3ta! Tangy bzzzzzzzzt, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:24, archived)
# It was OK. I'll stick with Zombie Nation though.
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:29, archived)
# Yes
Only with 5-minute tea breaks between songs.
(I helped save b3ta! Tangy bzzzzzzzzt, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:11, archived)
# Ah - Ok.
*gets out Dave Brubeck LPs*
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:15, archived)
# Short answer no
but it can sound a lot like that in a "Musique Concrete" kinda way. It can embrace a totally offbeat and time signature-free jazzy sound but all the sounds are usually synthesized.
(I helped save b3ta! Fitznicely into a thimble, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:14, archived)
# Ahhh....
I see.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:06, archived)
# Aha - that's partially the point.
It's not really meant to resemble anything....

Well, not intentionally, anyhow.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 22:51, archived)
# Holy hell. This is my absolute favourite.
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 22:50, archived)
# *bows*
Thank you, sir.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 22:51, archived)
# I probably asked this before, and probably will again, but
how are you making these?
(I helped save b3ta! grey matter, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 22:50, archived)
# It's some generative software, built, then taken into Vue for rendering.
:)
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 22:52, archived)
# "generative software"? Sounds funky!
it reminds me of a 3d version of Context Free
(I helped save b3ta! grey matter, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:01, archived)
# Yes indeed!
These bods are also rather worth keeping an eye on -

www.signwave.co.uk/go/software/generative
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:04, archived)
# These are just awesome.
They remind me of the beautiful 1980s Sci-fi artwork - Larry Niven/Isaac Asimov book covers - and I really love them.

I don't know what you're using and I don't care how easy or difficult they are, but they really work on me. Thank you for posting them up.
(Guizmeaux, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 22:50, archived)
# Thank you, sir!
I'm tripping out on the back of too much wine this evening, so I'd better lay down my quill.

;-)
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 22:54, archived)
# Now I have an excellent image of you stabbing madly at the keyboard with a feather
Then again if that produces cool 3d stuff, continue.
(I helped save b3ta! Tangy bzzzzzzzzt, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:16, archived)
# mmmmmmelty
yes!
(I helped save b3ta! Zank Frappa Who let the lefties in?, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 22:51, archived)
# melty is always good.
:)
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 22:54, archived)
# This is all kinds of amazingness.
*Desktops*
(I helped save b3ta! elephant rider property shark sighted!, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 22:53, archived)
# Thank you!
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 22:54, archived)
# atmospherically
top notch:)
(I helped save b3ta! Elvis impersonator, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 22:57, archived)
# Fankewverymuch!
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 22:59, archived)
# I like your swizzley things
they swizzle and are things.

:D
(I helped save b3ta! arrangedletters, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:00, archived)
# :D
Swizzley - *tick*
Things - *tick*

All is in order.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:02, archived)
# this one reminds me of old fsol videos
possibly because i'm listening to fsol at the moment

woo!
(I helped save b3ta! spacefish bong!, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:03, archived)
# That seems very synergistic, sir!
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:05, archived)
# interesting
the wavey bars connected to the main (body?) remind me of music visualisations, the bars going up n down as the tune progresses.

a musical enzyme, hmm would that be called house-ase? or as a general musical protein, dropthebeatin?
(I helped save b3ta! doph no time like the precedent, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:05, archived)
# Dropthebeatin....
Oh, excellent, sir!

:D
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:13, archived)
# bollocks! :D
(I helped save b3ta! Shada, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:05, archived)
# :(
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:10, archived)
# Twisty goodness.
W&Y
(I helped save b3ta! Tahkcalb ω∞ for sigs, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:20, archived)
# Thanks Mr Calb!
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:27, archived)
# Best so far
I love this one
(I helped save b3ta! Frogbeat, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:26, archived)
# You're very kind, thank you.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 24 Mar 2009, 23:36, archived)