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# Arf!
Top work as ever Monkeon.

And it reminds me of a rather racist joke.
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:12, archived)
# I have a favourite joke about racism
but am never certain if the joke itself can be considered racist
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:14, archived)
# if you tell it 'ironically'
then it isn't
(I helped save b3ta! b3th Not shit. Not mod., Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:16, archived)
# OK then (by secret consensus!) <irony>...
It is getting close to the end of the day in a class of 6 year olds

The teacher says "Well class. I am going to ask some questions, and if you give me the correct answer you can go home 10 minutes early"

"Hooray" shout the kids

"OK" says teacher, "Tommy, you can go first. What did you do at playtime?"

"I played in the sand pit Miss." said Tommy

"OK good. Can you spell SAND for me" asks teacher

"S-A-N-D" says Tommy

"well done Tommy, you can go home early" says teacher

"Now then, Sally! what did you do at playtime?" asks teacher

"I played in the sand pit as well Miss" says Sally

"OK good - spell PIT for me please" asks teacher

"P-I-T" says Sally

"Well done Sally! you can go home early too" says teacher

"Now then, who's next" says teacher, "Ahh Ranjit - did you play in the sand pit too?"

"No Miss" said Ranjit "The other kids wouldn't let me because I am Pakistani Miss"

"Oh no" says teacher. "That's racial discrimination that is Ranjit!"

"Spell RACIAL DISCRIMINATION for me"

</Irony > I will remove it if it offends (as the bishop said to the etc)
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:23, archived)
# I find this deeply offensive! ;)
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:27, archived)
# *cunts in teh fuck*
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:28, archived)
# I vote that joke
*not racist*
(I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:33, archived)
# *breathes*
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:34, archived)
# good god you worry about this?
honestly that's political correctness gone mad.
(k3b/-\b Peace man., Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:51, archived)
# it's hard to judge an audience you cannot see and have never met
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:02, archived)
# Even in a non-ironic sense that's not being racist
as it's clearly mocking the racists rather than the race.
(I helped save b3ta! kingofpork is the king of pork, Sat 13 Jun 2009, 15:13, archived)
# yup
(I helped save b3ta! slight yoinks!, Tue 16 Jun 2009, 12:07, archived)
# if you have a black friend its ok to tell it
e.g

Q: why did so many black people die in the vietnam war?
A: cos when they shouted "GET DOWN!" they all started dancing
(El Guiri the only b3tan who is not fat, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:18, archived)
# I'm not racist, some of my best friends are black.
Yeah? Well I'm not a paedophile, some of my best friends are children....oh.
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:20, archived)
# hahaha
but technically, that's what the "-phile" bit means


I'll be over there if anyone needs me
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:21, archived)
# Aye,
that is the main reason I am not planning to enter this weeks compo :)
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:18, archived)
# I think if for the joke to work you are supposed
to laugh at the ridiculousness of racism, then you're on pretty safe ground.

"Ironic" jokes which otherwise are exactly the same as something Bernard Manning would have told are rather more dodgy.

My moral quandry with this compo is if to make jokes about Nick being wonky eyed and fat, but then to mock him for judging people by the way they look, is hypocritical or not.
(I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:25, archived)
# good points
my joke is up there. No-one's laughing (out loud)
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:26, archived)
# i was under the impression that he wants people of immigrant lineage out
not based on their looks, but based on their "britishness"
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:38, archived)
# I'd love to see them develop a test for that
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:41, archived)
# I suspect that it ultimately comes down to looks, though.
He has enough links with white supremicist groups to suggest that he judges people on the simple basis whether they are white or not.

The "britishness" thing is surely more a way to get fucking idiots to vote for him.
(I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:11, archived)
# Jokes about people are not very nice or fair, ever. This doesn't make them wrong.
Nick Griffin is a man who has made himself unpopular on purpose.
Therefore making jokes about him is less morally problematic than making jokes about, say, injured lambs, or some group with a history of being discriminated against.

Then we have the separate question about whether sick jokes which are deliberately cruel are morally OK, and the question of whether simple cruel jokes are of a good quality or just lowbrow rubbish, both rather complicated questions, but fortunately they don't come into it in this case.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:55, archived)