Aye,he attempted a coup. It were fucking mental! LOL! All demons were once angels ^_^
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Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!,
Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:27,
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All people were once angels?Nah, that's not true.
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Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:40,
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You agree with me, but Happy Toast says I'm wrong...I'm so confused :(
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Mu Dinofiddler,
Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:32,
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it depends which bed time story book, I mean bible you readearly ones simply say Lucifer refused to love man more than he loved god so was banished, later ones made him in to more of a god hater and then big horned monster to keep the idiots scared and money flowing
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HappyToast Groat froth,
Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:35,
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I think a lot of the lucifer storythat we know is taken from Paradise Lost, to be honest. Fuck knows where Milton found it. I think there's some material in the Apocrypha that lend support to it to, but in the Bible we know and love in Protestant and Catholic nations, Satan first appears in Job as God's poker-partner, gambling on whether they can fuck up the most holy man on Earth enough that he'll curse God's name.
God, eh? What a fucking pikey cunt.
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boris the spider,
Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:44,
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Our survey says no.Genesis 3 you fool! The Garden of Eden? The Serpent?
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Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:51,
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Identification of the Serpent with Satanis also a result of dogma. (That's dogma, not Dogma, the acclaimed Kevin Smith movie.) Point me anywhere in Genesis that says
"And the serpent, who was called Lucifer and was a heavenly body cast down from Heaven for refusing to worship Adam and inexplicably present in Eden -- and probably also in the right, since the mighty YAHWEH would later demand that no-one worship anyone but Himself which suggests he was a bit soft in the head, said to Eve, 'Go on, eat the fucking apple, bitch! By the way, I'm the king of Hell.' "
("And the serpent, who was called Lucifer and was a heavenly body cast down from Heaven for refusing to worship Adam and inexplicably present in Eden -- and probably also in the right, since the mighty YAHWEH would later demand that no-one worship anyone but Himself which suggests he was a bit soft in the head, said to Eve, 'Go on, eat the fucking apple, bitch! By the way, I'm the king of Hell.' "
boris the spider,
Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:55,
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Well that's the story.Although, I don't remember reading that in the bible ever. I guess Kevin Smith just made it up for Reaper ;)
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Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:39,
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It's not Biblicalor at least I don't think it's in the Bible we use (whether Protestant or Anglican or Catholic). I don't remember the apocrypha well enough to say whether it's in any of the Orthodox Bibles or whatnot, but to be honest I doubt it. I think it's all a later development.
There's many things that aren't Biblical. You can even argue that the Trinity isn't Biblical -- there's a lot of Christians, generally orthodox, who don't believe that weird piece of doublethink and will happily argue, from a position of much more strength than me, that it's extra-Biblical and not even in the batshit-insane letters of Paul.
(There's many things that aren't Biblical. You can even argue that the Trinity isn't Biblical -- there's a lot of Christians, generally orthodox, who don't believe that weird piece of doublethink and will happily argue, from a position of much more strength than me, that it's extra-Biblical and not even in the batshit-insane letters of Paul.
boris the spider,
Thu 5 Nov 2009, 10:50,
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