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# fighting back gets you no where and causes animosity
giving in and accepting makes you hate yourself

its all a big pile of poo
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 21:24, archived)
# Yes, it is a pile of poo.
But it is our poo and it is all we got. If you are hating yourself it is only because you are cheating yourself.
(I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 21:30, archived)
# nah life is bloody brilliant,
it's just that sometimes we can't see it, because we get caught up in ourselves thinking we ought to get what we want instead of what we ask for. But then when we finally realise this and get round to asking for what we want, we finally realise that what we want is self-contradictory. But we can't change what we want, because we've been conned into thinking our wants define our selves.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 21:35, archived)
# Actually mine is a bit poo at the moment
But I'm fighting away.
(I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 21:38, archived)
# we all have our ups and downs,
just don't blame the Universe, because there is no up and down in space.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 21:42, archived)
# I blame fate and selfishness
at the moment. The Alley Music Corp, who i can't quite pin down have got me banned from You Tube, and have threatend further action. I have a great job but can't quite pay the mortgage doing it. I'm old, single and incredibly dull to talk to. I cannot sing like i used to.
Nobodies fault, but it all hurts just the same.
(I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 21:52, archived)
# Why does it hurt?
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 21:55, archived)
# It hurts
because I care I suppose.
(I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 22:00, archived)
# Yes!
But are you really judging yourself by your own standards? That is the question only you can answer. Who said there was anything wrong with being old and single, for instance?
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 22:03, archived)
# Try it ;)
I don't know who's standards I use; i hope my own, but it is easy to go wrong there. Maybe my Dads, maybe my Mums, but that is all too deep and personal to share on here.
(I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 22:09, archived)
# give in hating yourself as well, then.
meta.

give up on the idea that you have to live up to anyone else's expectations.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 21:32, archived)
# I don't live up to anyones expectations

But that's not the problem
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 21:38, archived)
# what's up, then?
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 21:41, archived)
# job, health of loved ones, money and inability to sleep will do for starters
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 21:54, archived)
# well the last one is no doubt caused by all the others,
but the second one is the only one that's really worth caring about.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 21:57, archived)
# well, i could see how the others could exacerbate it
(I helped save b3ta! spacefish bong!, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 22:04, archived)
# Well
I can tick off 2 out of those 4 (My mum has breast cancer, dad fell over in the snow and and broke his wrist, mother-in-law is signed off work with depression - and I don't sleep properly at the best of times, less so at the moment.)

However, my GP was very helpful with the insomnia - and it's the easiest one of the 4 to tackle. Once you've got some decent sleep behind you, it's a lot easier to stay strong for your loved ones.

Work can be a complete arse, and if you've got problems elsewhere it doesn't make work any easier. If you can change job, do (toolboxes have wheels for a reason). If you can't, then try to remember it's only 8 hours a day - live for the other 16.

Look after yourself, your drawing is ace, and I for one would miss it. ;-)
(I helped save b3ta! LP, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 22:13, archived)
# Someone needs a hug :)
White-naped mangabey
(I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 21:54, archived)
# you and your awesome photo skills
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 21:56, archived)
# ...awesome lunches ;)
(I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 22:01, archived)
# oh my
they have those at London Zoo now the Mangabeys
(I helped save b3ta! boff FL OZ, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 22:13, archived)
# Yep
Not bad at reproducing as well
(I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 22:46, archived)
# Giving in
doesn't mean you are accepting something. I have just given in and am about to fuck off as a result. It may well turn out to be the best thing I have done.

In the same way bad things always happen, so do good. It's just a question of waiting for them. :)
(I helped save b3ta! Jimbuktu See? Right here, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 21:37, archived)
# accepting things doesn't mean you are giving in, either.
neither is necessarily bad anyway, except by the standards of this foolish competition-based society that we are surrounded by.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 21:41, archived)
# This is true.
(I helped save b3ta! Jimbuktu See? Right here, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 21:46, archived)
# it's all bigger, faster, stronger, harder,
an obsession with spiralling excess. According to them, if you don't live up to it, you're a failure, and if you don't want to, you're a loser (because "obviously" everyone wants it really so if you say you don't you're just playing sour grapes). Well, fuck that. They're the losers, if you ask me. They're the ones living in Hell.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 21:48, archived)
# Ha hahaha
You sound like you know one of my soon to be ex-bosses! Never work for a sports player with a ban - competitive and time to kill bugging you!
(I helped save b3ta! Jimbuktu See? Right here, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 21:50, archived)
# This was the attitude expressed in a book I picked up once.
It made me cross. The really annoying thing about it, though, is that it was essentially right. You do have to be that kind of soulless freak to be "successful" as society today defines it. Except it didn't make me think I was wrong. It made me think society was wrong.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 21:53, archived)
# Yeah,
I kind of agree with it too. If you are single minded enough to only have one goal then it works fine, I personally have many things I like to do, and have seen enough of life to know that that approach is not what I want.
(I helped save b3ta! Jimbuktu See? Right here, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 22:07, archived)
# there's so much life to live,
but they've got us all chasing carrots on sticks instead.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 19 Jan 2010, 22:24, archived)