from what I've heard it isn't a very good idea,although what I've heard probably isn't very good science, I'm not about to fuck myself up to find out.
There's nowt wrong with booze, stick to that, kids.
(There's nowt wrong with booze, stick to that, kids.
Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:34,
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When it comes to trying new drugs it's best to play the numbers.Statistics may be damn lies, but they're comforting damn lies.
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Chickenhawk is no longer Arkwright.,
Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:40,
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LIESIT FUCKING KILLS PEOPLE!!!
Also, physically addictive and leads to social violence.
I just dont understand how "society" can tolerate one rather nasty (oh yeah, tobacco) two nasty chemical vices and make out like methadrone must be illagalised because it was implicated in the deaths of a couple of people.
Yes, this argument is only put about by drug-users and therefore tends to be seen as somewhat unreliable, but frankly - they are in a good position to tell apart the bullshit about drugs from the reality.
Oh God, the INTERNET MADE ME ANGRY AND I HAD TO COMMENT
NO, ORKRAN, NO. *rubs face in it*
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Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:40,
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Also, physically addictive and leads to social violence.
I just dont understand how "society" can tolerate one rather nasty (oh yeah, tobacco) two nasty chemical vices and make out like methadrone must be illagalised because it was implicated in the deaths of a couple of people.
Yes, this argument is only put about by drug-users and therefore tends to be seen as somewhat unreliable, but frankly - they are in a good position to tell apart the bullshit about drugs from the reality.
Oh God, the INTERNET MADE ME ANGRY AND I HAD TO COMMENT
NO, ORKRAN, NO. *rubs face in it*
You have to do a hell of a lot of booze to die from it,it's not really something you can put down to bad luck.
Tobacco is just crap. The only reason that's still legal is because of how addictive it is.
(Tobacco is just crap. The only reason that's still legal is because of how addictive it is.
Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:45,
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Every drug discussion just devolves into three thingsLaws enforcing morality, safety and the extent of personal freedom to fuck yourself up.
( Chickenhawk is no longer Arkwright.,
Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:48,
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Er, no.I invite you to take a look at the NHS figures for alcohol-dependance and alcohol-fueled injury...
*rummages aroiund the internet*
"in 2005, 6,570 people died from causes directly linked to alcohol consumption, of these just under two thirds (4,160) died from alcoholic liver disease. Two thirds (67 per cent) of those dying from alcoholic liver disease were men."
www.ic.nhs.uk/pubs/alcohol07
Also, yes, tobacco is truely evil. If there is a hell, the owners of tobacco companies are going straight there.
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Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:50,
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*rummages aroiund the internet*
"in 2005, 6,570 people died from causes directly linked to alcohol consumption, of these just under two thirds (4,160) died from alcoholic liver disease. Two thirds (67 per cent) of those dying from alcoholic liver disease were men."
www.ic.nhs.uk/pubs/alcohol07
Also, yes, tobacco is truely evil. If there is a hell, the owners of tobacco companies are going straight there.
how many died after a single vodka?
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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:55,
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All those who couldn't stop at one?if you're going to "strawman" and say one drink can't hurt, I'm going to "Slippery slope" and say we all start somewhere.
( Chickenhawk is no longer Arkwright.,
Mon 29 Mar 2010, 23:03,
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obviously you have to start at one,but this is what I said, you have to do a lot of it. It takes some amount of dedication to drink so much it ruins your liver. Mind you the amount some people drink these days just beggars belief, and I used to think I did a lot of it.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Mon 29 Mar 2010, 23:07,
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I'm not going near a "slippery slope" argument,because they're just daft.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Mon 29 Mar 2010, 23:19,
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Not one has died from a single line of coke, mephedrone or a joint either.
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Tue 30 Mar 2010, 7:58,
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my mate lost both her parents due to alcoholher dad choked to death on a sausage whilst pissed and her mum, similarly pissed, fell over and cracked her skull open
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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet,
Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:51,
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can you imagine choking on a sausage?at least when my mate died, it was instant. central reservation + head = very dead.
( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet,
Mon 29 Mar 2010, 23:05,
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Looks like you need some William Burroughs...“Our national drug is alcohol. We tend to regard the use any other drug with special horror.”
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Butters and his titanium codsocket,
Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:45,
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I think it's the immediate and total effect of most drugs that puts me off,where a single tiny dose can be more than enough. There's no middle ground between sober and completely smashed, and no turning back if you don't like what it's doing to you.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:48,
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Buy the ticketTake the ride
( Butters and his titanium codsocket,
Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:51,
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My first ride on the Acid train was pretty daunting.Didn't help that the films I'd chosen to babysit myself with were Waking Life and Disney's Alice in Wonderland.
( Chickenhawk is no longer Arkwright.,
Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:53,
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Chicken kills people tooif it is deep fried and consumed with alarming regularity.
So should chicken be banned? No, it fucking shouldn't. People should just take responsibility for what they fucking do. Weed should be legal? Well it isn't, so if you smoke it you're a criminal. Drinking is legal? Yeah, that doesn't mean you should drink a Scotch out in the Smoking area at work, the same way you shouldn't think that smoking a joint in the smoking area is ok. All drugs are bad for you, some are legally sanctioned, get over it.
(So should chicken be banned? No, it fucking shouldn't. People should just take responsibility for what they fucking do. Weed should be legal? Well it isn't, so if you smoke it you're a criminal. Drinking is legal? Yeah, that doesn't mean you should drink a Scotch out in the Smoking area at work, the same way you shouldn't think that smoking a joint in the smoking area is ok. All drugs are bad for you, some are legally sanctioned, get over it.
Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!,
Mon 29 Mar 2010, 23:38,
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well, I've only ever been hospitalised for alcohol abuse(i.e. stopped breathing on the way to hospital, resuscitated, or so I'm told)
never for any of the other shit I put through my system.
Even at non-lethal levels I would observe alcohol being responsible for a greater degree of general fuckwittery than any other drug.
LOTS wrong with booze kids (and think whose pockets you're lining)
(never for any of the other shit I put through my system.
Even at non-lethal levels I would observe alcohol being responsible for a greater degree of general fuckwittery than any other drug.
LOTS wrong with booze kids (and think whose pockets you're lining)
Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat,
Mon 29 Mar 2010, 23:49,
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There's plenty wrong with booze.I've been punched in the face by drunk strangers and hugged by high people, I know which one I prefer. Sometimes I wish something like mephedrone or ecstacy was the legal drug of choice in England, instead of booze.
That said, something like mephedrone hasn't been popular for very long, so there really is very little information about how dangerous it is - which automatically makes it a somewhat risky prospect.
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Tue 30 Mar 2010, 17:51,
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That said, something like mephedrone hasn't been popular for very long, so there really is very little information about how dangerous it is - which automatically makes it a somewhat risky prospect.