Not on proper job sites.
Safety inspections on the mainland are far more about going round the site looking for danger (that we could have missed) than getting behind a desk looking if the stamps are not overotated while having a cuppa with the office tart/hunk.
For example, security levels on UK offshore is shoddy (I would NEVER work there at ANY price) but require the most paper stamping of all the EU.
You lot are going to have another Piper Alpha and are going to blame the EU for it.
SO yeah, you follow rules, what about applying them?
This does not mean that it's all fine and good on the mainland.
There are massive problems, in France the CERFA notably, but that is also self inflicted and not the EU's fault.
(, Mon 16 May 2016, 13:22, Reply)
Can't disagree with anything you've written there
I've no experience of off-shore platforms, but I've project managed construction sites and have seen a lot of hiding behind paperwork, jobsworth twats that basically want to cause disruption and maximise overtime payments, and just plain old idiots that believe H&S is up to someone else and not their responsibility "because there's a form for that" or "no one told me an angle grinder could be dangerous so it wasn't my fault".
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Varmint, Mon 16 May 2016, 13:37,
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I can't tell you where iun the UK
But one day we had an inspection of the labels on the High Viz jackets.
WTF?
In France, the inspector will check the grinder and ask the operator to show him how it works. If it is dangerous/he does not, then the paperworks starts.
The big problem on the mainland is that we often have different agencies checking the same thing, on different days.
For example, the width of the passages is checked by safety commission, firefighters and the legless dude on a wheelchair.
And that is linked to different agencies not talking to each other.
Another problem is getting to the starting point, it takes forever, but once the job starts, better/safer/faster in France!
(, Mon 16 May 2016, 13:46, Reply)
That's because Hi Viz jackets have to conform to EU regulations!
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Varmint, Mon 16 May 2016, 14:10,
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But the only place in the EU to inspect this
is the UK!
Now that you lot are not on Poppers 24/7/365 any more, I hope this gets cleared up.
(, Mon 16 May 2016, 14:15, Reply)
I've got some builders in renovating my office.
Quite extensive work. Walls knocked down, floors ripped up, dusty and shit everywhere. There's not a single hi viz, hard hat or dust mask in sight. I bet they all vote out too.
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Fadgebadger Sweaty sumo wanks for everyone!, Tue 17 May 2016, 7:34,
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When I was project managing
I would make my staff wear glove, mask etc - but with a common sense approach - use stuff when needed. Another thing is having good PSE, nice grippy flexible glove are going to be worn much more than the 1£ for 5 pairs cotton and fake leather jobbies.
But PSE's are just the final line of protection, doing things safe should be "just the way stuff is done", not inane rule checking.
You put a guard rail up because you don't want one of your mates getting killed, going to his funeral and having awful pity sex with his ugly widow - not because of rules.
The work site being safe means cleaner and more organised, that means faster work, that means finishing bonuses.
safe = moneyyyyy.
In any case, I never had a single report against any of my job sites anywhere and only one injury (a carpenter decided to move freshly 45° cut alloy profiles with no gloves).
(, Wed 18 May 2016, 9:06, Reply)
It's not the EU regs but the insurance company regs
If you don't have the correct Hi-vis the insurance is invalid and the company is liable.
The state of H&S in the UK is due to the demands of insurance companies and voracious lawyers.
(, Mon 16 May 2016, 19:52, Reply)
A friend of mine does a lot of business around the world
and an Italian client said "I don't get it with the UK. You fight against things, and then follow them to the letter. In Italy, we agree to things and then just ignore them!"
Rightly or wrongly, followed with or without common sense, we're sticklers for a rulebook in this country. We codified most sports, for example.
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gingerfreak Why? Why not., Mon 16 May 2016, 21:49,
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