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This is a link post 1 hr 10 mins slick production on why we should leave the EU.
Getting out has my vote.
(I helped save b3ta! Varmint, Mon 16 May 2016, 11:44, Reply)
This is a normal post Nobody has the attention span for that
Can you condense it to a couple of pithy soundbites? Preferably without mentioning Hitler.
 (I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Mon 16 May 2016, 11:48, Reply)
This is a normal post That's the issue
We are being asked to make a huge decision but the level of debate we are offered is Hitler if we stay in and the end of the world if we exit
 (I helped save b3ta! spazzcaptain Misses Valin @, Mon 16 May 2016, 12:02, Reply)
This is a normal post This in bucket loads.
Both sides of the argument are just patronising the electorate with stupid emotive bollocks and there is no impartial media putting forward a balanced set of pros and cons and holding the government to account.

I'll be voting out, not because of some stupid flag waving patriotism, but because there is something fundamentally undemocratic about the EU. I don't buy the economic scare mongering... the EU favours big business who benefit from an endless pool of cheap labour which suppresses wages at the low end... just as there has been no trickle down of the economic recovery to low earners, there won't be a trickle down of the impact of Brexit. GDP will fall, sure, but it will hit the kind of people that earn millions and the corporations that are dodging tax anyway.
 (I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Mon 16 May 2016, 12:19, Reply)
This is a normal post The vid focusses primarily on the undemocratic nature of the EU
and that over-regulation stifles growth.
 (I helped save b3ta! Varmint, Mon 16 May 2016, 12:41, Reply)
This is a normal post Yagotabekidding?
I've done projects all over Europe, and the most over regulated place - by far - was England.
On some job sites, you can't go take a crap without filling out a form.
This is not the EU fault, you lot are either shit at making up your rules or at implementing EU rules.
ANd the worse part, is that most of this yellow jacket madness is to give an appearance of safety protect arses/assign blame rather than actual Safety.
Even Luxembourg is less overbearing and focused on actual safety (unprotected blades, wires etc) than high viz bullshit/paperwork.

The UK was a regulation/industrial nightmare before your Gvt downed the blue with yellow sparkles pill.

It seems that every British Gvt since WW2 is hell bent at shafting the manufacturing and industrial economy for the benefit of their City pals.
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Mon 16 May 2016, 12:49, Reply)
This is a normal post I agree with your last sentence
but we have massive regulation imposed by the EU in everything we do. It's one thing to have your own elected government making laws, but something else when a faceless bureaucrat in Brussels decides we can't have bent bananas or Prawn Cocktail flavour crisps.
 (I helped save b3ta! Varmint, Mon 16 May 2016, 12:54, Reply)
This is a normal post I've worked in the most regulated places
Where test runs of regs are done before being passed to the EU commissions.* for the rest of us.
But theses rules become inane paper stamping, no work permitted, high viz bullcrap in the UK!
Why does it take me 5 to 30 minutes to allow an extra worker on a site in France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Holland or Germany... Yet for the same security clearance half a day to a day (if at all) in the UK?
"Oh, it's the EU fault and their overbearing regulations."

Yeah whatever.

In the UK I've had conversation with site officials that go:
- "This is Ed, he replaces Bob".
- "Ed is not on the allowed list you submitted 6 months ago".
- "Bob died/was fired/became a Jesus freak last week, we faxed all the details of Bob and Ed to your head offices, Ed has all the original copies of his permits and here is a paper assigning all responsibility to me and my firm".
- "Ed is not on my list".
- "Call your boss"
- "No".
- "Why?"
- "Ed is not on my list".
etc.
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Mon 16 May 2016, 13:04, Reply)
This is a normal post One big fault of the British is we follow rules.
The French, par exemple, are much more militant and laissez-faire - if they don't like it they strike en masse or set fire to a lorry load of lamb.
 (I helped save b3ta! Varmint, Mon 16 May 2016, 13:14, Reply)
This is a normal post Not on proper job sites.
Safety inspections on the mainland are far more about going round the site looking for danger (that we could have missed) than getting behind a desk looking if the stamps are not overotated while having a cuppa with the office tart/hunk.

For example, security levels on UK offshore is shoddy (I would NEVER work there at ANY price) but require the most paper stamping of all the EU.
You lot are going to have another Piper Alpha and are going to blame the EU for it.

SO yeah, you follow rules, what about applying them?

This does not mean that it's all fine and good on the mainland.
There are massive problems, in France the CERFA notably, but that is also self inflicted and not the EU's fault.
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Mon 16 May 2016, 13:22, Reply)
This is a normal post Can't disagree with anything you've written there
I've no experience of off-shore platforms, but I've project managed construction sites and have seen a lot of hiding behind paperwork, jobsworth twats that basically want to cause disruption and maximise overtime payments, and just plain old idiots that believe H&S is up to someone else and not their responsibility "because there's a form for that" or "no one told me an angle grinder could be dangerous so it wasn't my fault".
 (I helped save b3ta! Varmint, Mon 16 May 2016, 13:37, Reply)
This is a normal post I can't tell you where iun the UK
But one day we had an inspection of the labels on the High Viz jackets.
WTF?

In France, the inspector will check the grinder and ask the operator to show him how it works. If it is dangerous/he does not, then the paperworks starts.
The big problem on the mainland is that we often have different agencies checking the same thing, on different days.
For example, the width of the passages is checked by safety commission, firefighters and the legless dude on a wheelchair.
And that is linked to different agencies not talking to each other.
Another problem is getting to the starting point, it takes forever, but once the job starts, better/safer/faster in France!
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Mon 16 May 2016, 13:46, Reply)
This is a normal post That's because Hi Viz jackets have to conform to EU regulations!

(I helped save b3ta! Varmint, Mon 16 May 2016, 14:10, Reply)
This is a normal post But the only place in the EU to inspect this
is the UK!

Now that you lot are not on Poppers 24/7/365 any more, I hope this gets cleared up.
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Mon 16 May 2016, 14:15, Reply)
This is a normal post I've got some builders in renovating my office.
Quite extensive work. Walls knocked down, floors ripped up, dusty and shit everywhere. There's not a single hi viz, hard hat or dust mask in sight. I bet they all vote out too.
 (I helped save b3ta! Fadgebadger Sweaty sumo wanks for everyone!, Tue 17 May 2016, 7:34, Reply)
This is a normal post When I was project managing
I would make my staff wear glove, mask etc - but with a common sense approach - use stuff when needed. Another thing is having good PSE, nice grippy flexible glove are going to be worn much more than the 1£ for 5 pairs cotton and fake leather jobbies.
But PSE's are just the final line of protection, doing things safe should be "just the way stuff is done", not inane rule checking.
You put a guard rail up because you don't want one of your mates getting killed, going to his funeral and having awful pity sex with his ugly widow - not because of rules.
The work site being safe means cleaner and more organised, that means faster work, that means finishing bonuses.
safe = moneyyyyy.

In any case, I never had a single report against any of my job sites anywhere and only one injury (a carpenter decided to move freshly 45° cut alloy profiles with no gloves).
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Wed 18 May 2016, 9:06, Reply)
This is a normal post It's not the EU regs but the insurance company regs
If you don't have the correct Hi-vis the insurance is invalid and the company is liable.
The state of H&S in the UK is due to the demands of insurance companies and voracious lawyers.
 (emptyspace, Mon 16 May 2016, 19:52, Reply)
This is a normal post Doesn't the EU have rules against that?
:)
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Mon 16 May 2016, 21:33, Reply)
This is a normal post A friend of mine does a lot of business around the world
and an Italian client said "I don't get it with the UK. You fight against things, and then follow them to the letter. In Italy, we agree to things and then just ignore them!"

Rightly or wrongly, followed with or without common sense, we're sticklers for a rulebook in this country. We codified most sports, for example.
 (I helped save b3ta! gingerfreak Why? Why not., Mon 16 May 2016, 21:49, Reply)
This is a normal post 68 people died working on building sites the year I started work
As its down into the 20's now, and it means a possible 600 people are now alive and working, I'm not going to complain too much about the extra safety laws.
 (I helped save b3ta! Skirite Gerrorf my larnd, Tue 17 May 2016, 7:26, Reply)
This is a normal post The rules usually arent bad
Implementation sometimes is.
I've never had a rule concerning safety or accessibility that I car argue with on the premise.

But concerning security rules, notably some of ISPS, is just lawyers have a group wank in an office with no windows.
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Wed 18 May 2016, 9:12, Reply)
This is a normal post Subsequently modified to remove standards regarding shape & size
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_Regulation_(EC)_No._2257/94

Basically: Bollocks mate.
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Mon 16 May 2016, 13:14, Reply)
This is a normal post Why were the standards there to start with?
And why did it take 15 years to remove them?
 (I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Mon 16 May 2016, 13:26, Reply)
This is a normal post Learn to search.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_Regulation_%28EC%29_No._2257/94

And not to be pedantic, but the reg is far more about not being allowed to sell rotting, pest filled tiny bananas than their shape.
One has to interpret this with a pair of UKIP certified beer bottle bottoms to think that it bans curved bananas.

It took the EU 20 years to get that you lot were not joking about the bent banana ban.
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Mon 16 May 2016, 13:28, Reply)
This is a normal post The banana thing is a well-established myth, as it the Prawn Cocktail crisps

(I helped save b3ta! Varmint, Mon 16 May 2016, 13:43, Reply)
This is a normal post Why are you bringing them up then?

(I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Mon 16 May 2016, 16:58, Reply)
This is a normal post I thought they were sufficiently well known as euromyths that people may have got the joke.
Obviously I was mistaken.
 (I helped save b3ta! Varmint, Mon 16 May 2016, 17:42, Reply)
This is a normal post You're up against Poe's Law here...

(I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Mon 16 May 2016, 18:01, Reply)
This is a normal post True. I should have put a smiley face next to it.
:-)
 (I helped save b3ta! Varmint, Mon 16 May 2016, 18:17, Reply)
This is a normal post Yes, some of the in arguments baffle me...
"Without the EU we wouldn't have the working time directive, holiday pay..."

There is nothing to stop any party putting such policies in their manifesto and implementing them if elected. If we have to rely on the EU to impose laws on us that the majority would not vote for, that either means the EU is autocratic, our electorate is far too thick to work out what's good for them, or regardless of who you vote for in the UK they won't do a fucking thing to help you.
 (I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Mon 16 May 2016, 13:05, Reply)
This is a normal post I think it's a combination of
our electorate is far too thick to work out what's good for them, *and* regardless of who you vote for in the UK they won't do a fucking thing to help you
 (spunkyD, Mon 16 May 2016, 15:10, Reply)
This is a normal post So in that scenario we should just completely do away without any kind of national representation and save ourselves a fortune.
Would be nice to see all those champagne socialists having to go and do some real work.
 (I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Mon 16 May 2016, 15:21, Reply)
This is a normal post Here's a top tip
go to vote on Friday 24th after all those queues at the poll have died down.
 (I helped save b3ta! Pig Bodine., Mon 16 May 2016, 13:56, Reply)
This is a normal post Don't you mean Poles at the queue?

(I helped save b3ta! da5id <YOUR SIG HERE>, Mon 16 May 2016, 21:43, Reply)
This is a normal post You'll have the Freedom
That the Scots, Welsh, Irish, Londoners, Southeasters, Southwesters, Mid-landers, East Englanders, Yorkers, Northwesters and Northeasters all want from England.

Only the Falklands still want to be governed by the City and their yes men it seems.

It will be like the Balklands in 1992 but with worse food.
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Mon 16 May 2016, 12:06, Reply)
This is a normal post I have the attention span for that
and I would suggest that anyone who has any interest in the future economic performance of the UK should make the effort to find out a bit more about both sides of the argument.

But, to help you: The EU is a gravy train for a few, and an over-regulating stultifying bureaucracy for the rest of us.
 (I helped save b3ta! Varmint, Mon 16 May 2016, 12:37, Reply)
This is a normal post
300 TRILLION MUSSIES WITH BROWN FACES COMING TO STEAL OUR BENEFITS!! VOTE OUT!!!
Is that concise enough?
 (Oswald Mosley (((triggering))) right wing cunts on, Mon 16 May 2016, 23:28, Reply)
This is a normal post Hitler...
oh fucked it!
 (PhosphorBurnedEyes Swastika Shop opening here soon, Mon 16 May 2016, 23:38, Reply)
This is a normal post I managed 9 seconds.

(I helped save b3ta! Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Mon 16 May 2016, 11:58, Reply)
This is a normal post Did you have time to spread out a tissue?

(smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Mon 16 May 2016, 12:07, Reply)
This is a normal post 1 minute 40
I'm proud of myself
 (theswollenbeef where there's a will there's a wank, Mon 16 May 2016, 13:02, Reply)
This is a normal post What a load of made-up rubbish.

(pissflaps. FSPW, Mon 16 May 2016, 12:37, Reply)
This is a normal post You are a Brussel's bureaucrat, AICMFP

(I helped save b3ta! Varmint, Mon 16 May 2016, 13:15, Reply)
This is a normal post You are a 'VOAT UKIPZ N SAVE DA £' ignorant fool that believes the lies of Gove/Boris/IDS.

(pissflaps. FSPW, Mon 16 May 2016, 16:27, Reply)
This is a normal post You can't argue with the unbiased opinion and facts in the Daily Mail.
Wake up sheeple!
 (I helped save b3ta! Varmint, Mon 16 May 2016, 17:47, Reply)
This is a normal post they should call this one
"the hyperbole wars"

i am just so sick of polar arguements with no rational middle ground...

we are not being "forced to give up our democracy" anymore than "children will eat each other in the streets if we leave"

everytime someone gives a reason to leave or say all I think is "i'm not voting... i don't want to be in a camp with either of you cunts"
 (DefyingDarwin Old, untalented and white,, Mon 16 May 2016, 12:41, Reply)
This is a normal post Or in an oven.
If the tone of the vid is to be believed.
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Mon 16 May 2016, 13:26, Reply)
This is a normal post For me this is the point.
Ed Milliband refused to hold a referendum and was derided for it but he was right. Dave did it to grab some UKIP votes in a panic. Farage said, and was right to say, there is no way it will ever be a fair and balanced argument. "Stay" have already won and if they were to lose we will be doing it again within 6 months. The whole thing will cost over 80 million +.
 (I helped save b3ta! transparenttown Dead to worse..., Tue 17 May 2016, 12:45, Reply)
This is a normal post I like football
and for that reason I am voting IN.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17150054


Plus..
People want IN (think of them as you will):

Jeremy Corbin
David Cameron
IMF
England's Bank
Economists


People want out:

Borris Johnson
Trump
Katie Hopkins
Nigel Farage


Now there are idiots on both sides.. but I know which side I would want to be on.
 (kwizm, Mon 16 May 2016, 13:30, Reply)
This is a normal post Your "IN" list is incomplete
Let me help on that front:

Jeremy Corbin
David Cameron
IMF
England's Bank
Economists
Hitler

Whilst I'm at it I might as well complete the "OUT" list:

Borris Johnson
Trump
Katie Hopkins
Nigel Farage
Satan
Mumm-Ra the Ever-Living
 (I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Mon 16 May 2016, 13:48, Reply)
This is a normal post Got a giggle out of that.

(smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Mon 16 May 2016, 13:55, Reply)
This is a normal post You forgot Churchill on your 'in' list,
right next to Hitler.
 (I helped save b3ta! joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks, Mon 16 May 2016, 15:44, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm sure Hitler wanted Europe united

It's just it's him that wanted to do all of the uniting.
 (I helped save b3ta! Turquoise Hexagon Sun has just dropped acid on, Mon 16 May 2016, 22:23, Reply)
This is a normal post That's why he's on the "IN" list
Mumm-Ra on the other hand just wants to wreck shit up. Hence the "OUT" list.

See? I've thought about this and everything.
 (I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Mon 16 May 2016, 22:32, Reply)
This is a normal post Mumm-Ra?
Just leave a mirror outside the polling booth. Job done.
 (I helped save b3ta! transparenttown Dead to worse..., Tue 17 May 2016, 12:48, Reply)
This is a normal post Why base your decision on personalities? See if you can base it on facts that appeal to you instead.
Having said that, just out of principal I would do the exact opposite of what Cameron wants.

And I think you'll find economists are equally represented on both lists.
 (I helped save b3ta! Varmint, Mon 16 May 2016, 14:03, Reply)
This is a normal post Normally I'd agree with voting the polar opposite of Cameron
But that leaves you voting the same way as Farage.

Fuck. That.
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Mon 16 May 2016, 17:05, Reply)
This is a normal post I hear Elon Musk will soon start taking applications for the 1st batch of Mars pilgrims
Seems a good way out.
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Mon 16 May 2016, 21:38, Reply)
This is a normal post and tony benn

(I helped save b3ta! Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus, Tue 17 May 2016, 1:31, Reply)
This is a normal post You can't trust Corbyn's judgement.
He fucked Diane Abbott.
 (I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Mon 16 May 2016, 14:13, Reply)
This is a normal post Well if he did that in 1987 and it was consensual
I don't see where the problem lies.
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Mon 16 May 2016, 14:22, Reply)
This is a normal post More people would vote in if the EU was still run by Antoine De Caunes and Jean Paul Gaultier.

(I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Mon 16 May 2016, 14:11, Reply)
This is a normal post If I could elect those two
I'd contemplate moving back to France
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Mon 16 May 2016, 14:24, Reply)
This is a normal post Especially if Pee Pee and Poo Poo are put into key positions of power.

(I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Mon 16 May 2016, 14:35, Reply)
This is a normal post There's a Eurotrash special coming up just before the vote!
www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/may/09/eurotrash-is-back-for-one-night-only-on-the-eve-of-the-eu-referendum
 (I helped save b3ta! Varmint, Mon 16 May 2016, 15:19, Reply)
This is a normal post UKIP, putting Eurotrash back on the telly
Go purple, go!
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Mon 16 May 2016, 15:44, Reply)
This is a normal post 'Look At Lolo's' gonna be a bit grim though...

(I helped save b3ta! stuj (^(^;;^)^) GO TEAM SPIDERS!(^(^;;^)^), Mon 16 May 2016, 20:35, Reply)
This is a normal post She had started to let herself go before the overdose

(I helped save b3ta! Varmint, Mon 16 May 2016, 21:18, Reply)
This is a normal post *Fap*

(I helped save b3ta! stuj (^(^;;^)^) GO TEAM SPIDERS!(^(^;;^)^), Mon 16 May 2016, 22:09, Reply)
This is a normal post Sure
But when she's on the trampoline you won't be looking at her face...
 (I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Mon 16 May 2016, 22:18, Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah but didn't he have her tits buried separately?

(I helped save b3ta! stuj (^(^;;^)^) GO TEAM SPIDERS!(^(^;;^)^), Mon 16 May 2016, 22:22, Reply)
This is a normal post Oh right
The whole death thing. Forgot about that.

Bummer.
 (I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Mon 16 May 2016, 22:34, Reply)
This is a normal post Methinks not that many really want to leave the EU, but most really hate what is has become
The EU, previously quite neutral, has become a weird faceless and shapeless authoritarian mess. And I don't need fucking Dellingpole to realize that.

Just look at how Greece got butchered.
WTF is the EU doing supporting nazis in the Ukraine?
Etc.

While I don't think leaving the EU is the answer, I really can't see how the EU could be changed from within.
Shit choices.
 (I helped save b3ta! BigWhiteTelephones, Mon 16 May 2016, 14:18, Reply)
This is a normal post you, mean look how the EU managed to keep the feckless greeks solvent by loaning them loads of money
or are you suggesting it's the EU's fault greek has mismanaged it's economy?
 (I helped save b3ta! cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Mon 16 May 2016, 16:00, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm just going to wait for Russell Brand to tell me what to do.

(I helped save b3ta! presferatu, Mon 16 May 2016, 14:24, Reply)
This is a normal post He'd phone Merkel and tell her he bummed her children

(I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Mon 16 May 2016, 14:38, Reply)
This is a normal post Can't help thinking that by the time we've re-negotiated all the things the 'out' lot tell us we can re-negotiate
We might as well just join the EU again...
 (I helped save b3ta! joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks, Mon 16 May 2016, 15:46, Reply)
This is a normal post Good point
The implication of Leave is that we'd have far fewer 'red tape' and bureaucracy, but in reality most if not all of the laws which the EU requires would be implemented by any national government anyway, as they are about food safety, work safety, and above all about the ability to have common specifications in order to allow easier trade within the Euro-zone. If Leave want to negotiate a trade partnership with the EU then they will end up having to accept all the rules on specifications of goods and services, but without having a voice in deciding them. Which seems a bit daft to me.
 (Smale is stuffed, Mon 16 May 2016, 19:30, Reply)
This is a normal post not at all biased and selective and using outright mistruths, that video
they should retitle it "Tearing up a comprehensive trade and tax harmonisation treaty with our biggest export partner is not at all complete economic idiocy. trust us, we have Farage and Katie Hopkins and Rupert Murdoch and George Galloway and Boris Johnson on our side, and all the other side have is every economist and academic of note shouting at us "Don't do it you fucking morons" by which they mean to scare us with their well-reasoned analysis, and we won't listen to fear."
 (I helped save b3ta! cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Mon 16 May 2016, 16:10, Reply)
This is a normal post I haven't watched the video
But I've made up my mind. We don't export that much, and look at who owns the companies who do export from the UK, like Rolls Royce. As for imports, nearly everything in my house was made in China. The jeans I am wearing are an American brand made in Taiwan. I don't think the rest of the world, including Europe, will stop buying from us or selling to us if we leave.
If I want to offer 20k cash for a new Citroen, they aren't going to refuse my order and tell me to wait ten years for a trade agreement to be in place.
 (TSLunch, Mon 16 May 2016, 16:51, Reply)
This is a normal post Citroen... from the latin Citrum...
Meaning a lemon.
 (I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Mon 16 May 2016, 21:25, Reply)
This is a normal post And owned by General Motors anyway
who are mainly owned by the Vanguard Group which is a global company including people in the UK. So the suggestion is that UK people would refuse to import their own product to themselves. It makes no sense.
 (TSLunch, Mon 16 May 2016, 22:37, Reply)
This is a normal post The idea was good and had the right intentions
But like all self interests the EU has turned into a Institutionalised, Kafkaesque Bureaucratic bloated nightmare of muppets who are so out of touch it takes years to get anything of any merit done. Odd that. It was supposed to be originally the core EU states but it's tentacles got everywhere causing more confusion and battles of self interest. Now we promise Turkey membership if they keep migrants from our shores. Oh letting Greece in was a good idea which then got it's hands on cheap loans protected by the EU and trousered most of it making it into a near failed state bailed out by the errrr EU.
 (I helped save b3ta! spazzcaptain Misses Valin @, Mon 16 May 2016, 21:21, Reply)
This is a normal post
5 Stars!! Best comedy for years!! I loved the bit with all those failed tories from the 80's lied and lied for bent money from Panama. We played kipper bingo where we had to neck a drink everytime someone repeated a kipper lie, I was wrecked!! Still not one plan or policy even with 5 brexit campaigns and 30+ years to make plans, just grey old men shouting PROJECT FEAR!!! for bent money.
 (Oswald Mosley (((triggering))) right wing cunts on, Mon 16 May 2016, 23:42, Reply)
This is a normal post Voting out, because I think it will be more interesting

(I helped save b3ta! Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus, Tue 17 May 2016, 1:34, Reply)