Dance Combat from Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo
Can't think what made me think of this.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Wed 6 Jan 2021, 22:00,
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Trump's living the dream, the biggest drama.
Psych professionals have been warning people for years.
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Wed 6 Jan 2021, 22:26,
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CNN is pushing the 25th ammendment hard right now.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Wed 6 Jan 2021, 23:15,
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Is that the bare arms one, or the one about the catering arrangements?
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Wed 6 Jan 2021, 23:17,
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Removing the president because he's lost his mind.
Section 4, apparently.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Wed 6 Jan 2021, 23:23,
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Better to not appoint people with serious personality disorders in the first place.
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Wed 6 Jan 2021, 23:29,
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The EU appoints presidents, the US elects them.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 6 Jan 2021, 23:32,
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And the UK just votes for MPs
and gets "awarded" their PM
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MyFrontFellOff ; his mouth full of teddies, urinating defiantly, Wed 6 Jan 2021, 23:48,
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Technically that’s true. Cf party list systems.
However anyone who thinks the “red wall” fell because people were voting for the nobodies who were prospective parliamentary candidates and not Boris is beyond delusional.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 6 Jan 2021, 23:52,
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I thought you were talking about the EU appointing their presidents.
Which is done in a way a bit more democratic than in the UK.
The MEPs elect their President. The UK PM is "Elected" by the winnng party and their allies.
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MyFrontFellOff ; his mouth full of teddies, urinating defiantly, Thu 7 Jan 2021, 0:02,
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There is no president of the EU. The USA have appointed presidents of instituions, e.g. the VP is the president of the senate.
MEPs elect the president of the parliament.
Member states elect the president of the council.
The council proposes and the parliament elects the president of the commission.
You should select better sources of information to form a reality-based world view.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Wed 6 Jan 2021, 23:52,
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I never cease to be amazed by your capacity for bullshit.
The president of the parliament is, technically, voted in by MEPs. The reality is the two dominant eu parliamentary parties, the EPP and the PES , split the post by cosy convention (because in reality there are two presidents in every parliamentary term as the presidency doesn’t last for the same amount of time as the parliament) so you have, simply by convention, the situation where the two parliamentary parties only ever vote for their own candidate every other election. If you think that’s democracy, you’re even more stupid than I thought.
The president of the council is elected by the heads of state. If you think an election with an electorate of 28 resembles a democracy, you make Joey Essex look bright.
The President of the European commission is nominated by the European council, and subsequently “elected” by the European parliament. For elected read rubber stamped. There is only one candidate to vote for. The vote is yes or no. The parliament has never rejected the council’s nominee. An attempt at introducing some actual democracy into the process was attempted with the introduction of the spitzenkandidat process (can’t be bothered to explain this to someone so stupid), but in 2019 the European Council rejected the Spitzenkandidat of the leading party, and instead nominated their own candidate, just like they always have done.
Now fuck off you stupid lying nonce.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Thu 7 Jan 2021, 0:26,
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I see you agree that the three institutional presidents of the EU are in fact elected rather than appointed. Well done!
I can also see that this confrontation with reality has taken its toll, emotionally speaking. That resentment you feel would be better directed towards those who have filled your head with nonsense rather than those doing their best to correct you.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Thu 7 Jan 2021, 0:38,
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There is window dressing to fool morons that it is an election
As I have briefly tried, and evidently failed, to explain some of the basics to you, I’ll dumb it down for you.
President of parliament- taken in turns every other “election” by one of one of the two major parties’ candidates. Not in reality an election at all. They. Take. It. In. Turns.
Council president- “elected” by the 27 heads of state. This tiny electorate engage in as much chicanery as FIFA delegates. It. Is. Not. Democracy.
Commission president- one nominee proposed by council, “elected”, i.e. rubber stamped, every single time without exception by parliament.
Just because they call it an election, it doesn’t mean it has anything to do with a democratic process. Go and get a LLB with two compulsory years of EU law and we’ll talk again.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Thu 7 Jan 2021, 1:10,
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Calling something an election does not make it an election. But wrapping quote marks around a word does not do the persuasive work you think it does.
You claimed that the EU appoints presidents, while the US elects them. But since then you have accepted the reality that the EU institutions elect their presidents.
But to maintain some sort of ideological dignity, you twist the facts to fit your flawed narrative.
A cursory glance at the timeline of parliamentary presidents shows that they do not take it in turns, and there are more than two main parties. Nothing about your argument resembles the truth.
Your argument that the heads of state elect the council is flawed. If you think the heads of state of the EU have such great power, a) that flies in the face of the argument that the EU holds power over the member states, and b)it's cute to think that a given head of a member state is calling those kinds of shots within their own political hierarchy, and c) there are only 27 member states. We left. Because you won.
I'm not happy about the electoral conditions of the commission president, but it is, as you point out, called an election.
If you are concerned with elections not being democratic processes, why did you cite the example of the USA as an elected president? You know it's not a popular vote that decides the presidency over there, right?
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Thu 7 Jan 2021, 2:38,
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Are you illiterate.
The eu parliament gets to vote for ONE candidate proposed by the council to be commission president. How, anywhere but China, is an election with one candidate a real election? The council’s candidate is NEVER rejected. It is a de facto appointment. Sure, they call it an election, but it’s nothing of the kind.
Yes there are lots of parties in the eu parliament. Well spotted. Since at least the early 90s (my eu knowledge pre Maastricht is not exhaustive) the EPP and the PES have split the role between themselves. You can claim there are more than two main parties if you like, but it only reveals your ignorance. Anyone who knows anything about eu party politics knows there are only two shows in town, the EPP and the PES.
You’ve really gone off the deep end when you claim that my argument that heads of state elect the council president is flawed. Fucking google it you thick cunt. That’s how it works, it’s not an argument, that is literally how the system is set up and works.
You throw nouns like truth and verbs like correct around while simultaneously exposing you profound ignorance as to how the system works and making up lies about how you think it works. Go and get an LLB and you might actually learn something.
Popular votes are one form of democracy, an electoral college is another, FPTP is another, PR, STV, etc etc. None of these systems are used by the European Union to “elect” its various presidents, stop talking shit. Even the eu top dogs mutter sheepishly about what they call a “democratic deficit”, and yet liars like you insist, with religious fervour, that it’s a democratic institution with meaningful elections.
Next you’ll be bleating on about the eu parliament being a beacon of political democracy. You’re so ignorant you almost certainly don’t know that MEPs cannot introduce bills. MEPs cannot actually make any laws themselves. There is simply no system or means of doing so. The mechanism is not there, it does not exist. All they can do is rubber stamp what is put before them. On the vanishingly few occasions they have voted against laws proposed by the commission, the commission usually rehashes the legislation and it typically gets through second time round. Sometimes though they simply bypass parliament and enact the law anyway, because there is a mechanism for that. That’s eu democracy in action.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Thu 7 Jan 2021, 3:41,
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If voting changed anything they'd make it illegal.
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Thu 7 Jan 2021, 7:22,
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I’m glad someone got that, I didn’t think it’d be you though.
In fact, on reflection, I doubt you did get it. However credit where credit is due for spotting a joke, even if you don’t understand it.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Thu 7 Jan 2021, 13:32,
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Your arguments are not convincing because you come across as an ideologically brainwashed National Front type.
Pro-tip: If you ask someone if they are illiterate, you will undermine your argument a lot less if you use a question mark rather than a full stop.
As I don't want to lie for a living, getting an undergraduate law degree seems like a waste of time and money.
You do not present as law graduate material, especially when you drunkenly mistake me for SockCooker and call me a paedophile. You do not present as a law graduate because your rhetorical style and logical capacity are so stunted.
I can't be bothered to go through your posts pointing out everything that's wrong in them. Suffice to say, your insults do not help your self destructive cause, which is shared by the National Front, Britain First, BNP, UKIP, etc.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Thu 7 Jan 2021, 14:31,
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*Sighs*
They’re not arguments, they’re factual statements about how the various presidents of the eu get to be president of the institution they’re head of. This is not anti eu propaganda, it’s all information available on the eu’s own website.
You say you can’t be bothered to point out where I’m wrong. The truth is that you can’t refute what I’m saying because it’s factually accurate. So you resort to the utterly puerile “he’s anti-eu, therefore he’s brainwashed/racist/evil” bullshit, and completely avoid the issues being discussed. Utterly pathetic.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Thu 7 Jan 2021, 16:58,
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You can only present something wrong as a statement of fact, while being wrong.
The truth is I'm bored of this bendy bananas level of wrongness that you keep spouting.
Your rhetorical style is how fascists grind down their opposition, you make a false claim, then defend it with 16 more false claims, and defend each of those with yet more false claims, until there's just too much bullshit to wade through and the original point is forgotten. Those wise enough to walk away appear to concede.
It is an accurate and true statement of fact that the EU elects its institutional presidents. You agree. I'm happy. Good day to you.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Thu 7 Jan 2021, 17:55,
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The citizens of the eu don’t elect these presidents, directly or indirectly through representatives who they have voted for, as I have extensively explained.
You even conceded that the ‘election’ of the president of the commission, arguably the most powerful individual vis à vis international trade, is unsatisfactory. All these elections are a travesty of democracy, and you know it.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 8 Jan 2021, 1:24,
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You're calling them elections routinely now. This is progress! I'll make a sane man of you yet, my boy.
The subjects of the UK have no democratic way to select who represents them in our 2nd house. The subjects of the UK have no way of choosing their head of state, because God appoints our head of state through birth into a German aristocracy.
If you hate the anti-democratic elements of European bureaucracy, surely you must hate the aristocracy and especially the British monarchy, right?
We should campaign for a British republic together.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Fri 8 Jan 2021, 15:01,
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I meant in the GOP before he got that far.
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Wed 6 Jan 2021, 23:57,
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mods!
twitter.com/b3ta/status/1346929071649914883
to be honest though, he probably wouldn't be the most right wing nut on here
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it's nice how people reminisce about b3ta on twitter
while never coming here again
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Things you've had nothing to do with for a while are never as good as you remember them being
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I'm living the dram.
From now on, only whisky for me.
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MyFrontFellOff ; his mouth full of teddies, urinating defiantly, Wed 6 Jan 2021, 23:43,
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It's basically just barley and water. So, I'll be just fine.
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MyFrontFellOff ; his mouth full of teddies, urinating defiantly, Thu 7 Jan 2021, 21:21,
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