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This is a link post Seriously brave woman...Little History at it again I made this!
The story of Jeannie Rousseau. Saved a lot of Londoners during WW2.
(I helped save b3ta! Hummel Who died and made you....oh wait...., Sun 20 Jun 2021, 23:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post Seriously good history lessons here :)

(Sneak7h1ef television is my religion, Mon 21 Jun 2021, 9:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post That was really interesting, and quite haunting
What a woman.
 (I helped save b3ta! fred zeppelin II: Electric Boogaloo, Mon 21 Jun 2021, 11:42, , Reply)
This is a normal post I learned a lot there
thanks
 (WinnieTheTurd, Mon 21 Jun 2021, 11:58, , Reply)
This is a normal post Such an amazing woman
and her story well told.
 (S4RK perhaps perhaps purrrr..haps., Mon 21 Jun 2021, 14:03, , Reply)
This is a normal post If you want an alternative view
www.goodreads.com/book/show/2464806.The_Peenemunde_Raid

This book is a seriously bleak read. According to the auther:
The raids put the V weapons back by a couple of months max (hard to estimate)
The majority of the casualties were Polish prisoners.
The scientists weren't wiped out at all, if I remember correctly, most weren't even there.

Some accounts say the delay was maybe 2 weeks.

Not arguing, what the fuck do I know, just an alternative viewpoint if folks find it interesting. It's a fucking bleak and depressing read, be warned
 (I helped save b3ta! simbosan liked your link on, Mon 21 Jun 2021, 14:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post according to the wikipedia article on Jeannie Rousseau, which seems to have been edited last by someone with an axe to grind leaving the main bio seem pretty conflicting
her role in exposing the V2 rockets was overstated, and that her report came after the peenmunde raid rather than instigating it, and was something the war office already had several reports about. either way being an enemy spy in France with the fucking gestapo
torturing people to death for that sort of thing is hero enough in my books
 (I helped save b3ta! cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Mon 21 Jun 2021, 14:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post Peenemunde was just one of many test sites the Nazis used.
The scientists that developed these dreadful, indiscriminate weapons of mass destruction were indeed not killed during raids, or even convicted as war criminals after the war. They were shipped out to the US where they became true American heroes setting up the appollo space programme.

And if you want to build your very own V1, here's the user manual. These things were incredibly advanced for their time.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EEZuXQyA-E
 (I helped save b3ta! Tusk knows where you live, Mon 21 Jun 2021, 14:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post To Russia and the UK too.
Of course we squandered ours and had them designing sewage systems and whatnot.
 (I helped save b3ta! brb homonecrobatrachophile, Mon 21 Jun 2021, 18:51, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think it's fair to say
that those shipped to the UK and the Soviet Union didn't become true American heroes.
 (I helped save b3ta! Tusk knows where you live, Mon 21 Jun 2021, 20:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post That's a bit Python-esque
What did the smuggled nazi super scientists ever do for us, eh?
Well they did design the sewage system...
 (Mehitabel_Itrang, Mon 21 Jun 2021, 20:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post i went with the "heroic woman aspect"
Most articles refer to her helping delay by "up to" six months. and yes ...the wikipedia article defo stinks of someone with an axe to grind. You dont get all those medals and awards if theres no meat on the fact bone!
 (I helped save b3ta! Hummel Who died and made you....oh wait...., Mon 21 Jun 2021, 16:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post I didn't mention that I thought it was an excellent vid btw
So I wasn't critising that, just wanted to say. I had only recently read that book is all and it really got me down
 (I helped save b3ta! simbosan liked your link on, Tue 22 Jun 2021, 0:07, , Reply)
This is a normal post In every little vid i make, i find differing views.
I make choice and go with it. Hopefully people will take it upon themselves to learn more. If people have differing views which make me do more research and learn more, well that's even better. :)
Currently researching fervent Nazi, SS member and concentration camp prisoner user Hugo Boss and how he managed to escape dangling from a rope. Trying to avoid it being a hit piece...with great difficulty!
 (I helped save b3ta! Hummel Who died and made you....oh wait...., Tue 22 Jun 2021, 2:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post Hugo Boss makes me think of this
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU
 (I helped save b3ta! simbosan liked your link on, Tue 22 Jun 2021, 2:51, , Reply)
This is a normal post lol, classic!
Youve sent me down another rabbit hole!
 (I helped save b3ta! Hummel Who died and made you....oh wait...., Tue 22 Jun 2021, 7:04, , Reply)
This is a normal post i do think you have to be a bit careful
when attributing an intent to target civilians to 'tyrants and terrorists'. hitler and the german high command were proper evil, to be sure, but let's just consider a few rough stats:
uk civilians killed by axis bombing: ~65,000
russian civilian deaths by axis bombing: ~57,000
french civilians killed by allied bombing: ~67,000
german civilians killed by allied bombing: ~400,000
japanese civilians killed by US bombing: ~500,000
japanese civilians killed by 2 US atomic bombs: ~170,000
jussayin'
 (ozof, Tue 22 Jun 2021, 13:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post Statistics are easily thrown around.
How about 6 million concentration camp deaths.

Its a very touchy subject indeed.
 (I helped save b3ta! Hummel Who died and made you....oh wait...., Tue 22 Jun 2021, 21:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post clearly

(ozof, Tue 22 Jun 2021, 22:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post they started it!

(I helped save b3ta! simbosan liked your link on, Wed 23 Jun 2021, 0:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post Cant get Basil Faulty goose stepping out of my head now! lol

(I helped save b3ta! Hummel Who died and made you....oh wait...., Wed 23 Jun 2021, 6:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post apart from the morality of indiscriminately killing civilians, civilian bombing was a huge failure for both sides in achieving its stated ends
rather than having a sapping effect on the targets public support for the war, it had a unifying effect, galvanising the population against a hated foe. In germany it had the effect of consolidating Hitler grip on power just when they were facing disastrous setbacks in the east and starvation at home in the war's final years. Likewise the blitz spirit in Britain. And in hindsight the luftwaffe's decision to switch from military (airfields and radar installations) to civilian targets was a terrible one, but due to both incompetent leadership and ignoring key intelligence they never realised how close they came to achieving the air superiority they sought.
The role in the two atomic bombs in japan's surrender is more debatable, but the majority view among modern japanese historians is that the soviet declaration of war on Japan between the two bombs had a far greater role than the bombs in the leaderships decision, though the bombs did give the military a way to save face in what was a decision made to conserve home territory after it became clear they would lose manchuria and sakhalin.
 (I helped save b3ta! cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Wed 23 Jun 2021, 1:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post Agreed

(I helped save b3ta! Hummel Who died and made you....oh wait...., Wed 23 Jun 2021, 6:40, , Reply)
This is a normal post The DH Mosquito was also proof of the Fast BOmber concept.
A few Mosquitoes could drop very precise bomb loads smack on target with positive side effects:
- Not overly antagonizing the locals into supporting the Fuhrer.
- Less dead crews per target destroyed.
- Les materials (wood monocoque and 2 Merlins).
- Enraging the German high command
- Etc
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Wed 23 Jun 2021, 14:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post The mozzy is also on my list
to do a Little History on. Fantastic aircraft in every way.
 (I helped save b3ta! Hummel Who died and made you....oh wait...., Wed 23 Jun 2021, 17:27, , Reply)
This is a normal post great vid, btw.

(I helped save b3ta! cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Thu 24 Jun 2021, 3:42, , Reply)
This is a normal post it was a great plane, no doubt
but its tonnage of bombs dropped was dwarfed by the mass raids of lancasters and halifaxes which Harris favoured. It was churchill that took the decision in 1940 to start bombing civilian centres of population, with the justification that it would divert enemy resources to defending what in effect amounted to terror raids. And while mosquitos were more precise, the heavies spread their shit everywhere. they were still using bomb sights from the first war. anyway, I'm probably not telling you anything you both didn't know already. had an uncle who was a massive war buff, interesting bloke to chat to, and a bit of that interest in ww2 rubbed off on me, fnar fnar.
 (I helped save b3ta! cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Wed 23 Jun 2021, 23:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post
i was interested to try and find out who directly targeted civilians first in WW2. i will go with Britannica on this one - "The Blitz, (September 7, 1940–May 11, 1941), intense bombing campaign undertaken by Nazi Germany against the United Kingdom during World War II. For eight months the Luftwaffe dropped bombs on London and other strategic cities across Britain."
Although not correct if you take into account that Poland got a taste first in 1939 with some cities 100% flattened. Another rabbit hole i wish i hadn't gone down. Grim as f***
 (I helped save b3ta! Hummel Who died and made you....oh wait...., Thu 24 Jun 2021, 18:09, , Reply)