Zillenials can't get their heads around filesystem directory structures.
"You just type the name of the file you want into the search bar, innit blud".
(, Sun 26 Sep 2021, 10:01, Reply)
To be fair, I work with people from different generations that don't really get file naming and directory structures.
A lot of people are generally IT illiterate.
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Happosai _,,,,_(O ; o)_,,,, Sun 26 Sep 2021, 10:48,
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I just find it bizarre that they can't get their head around it.
I mean, I'm fastidious with directory organisation. I have a few TB of Music, Movies, TV Shows and photographs that are all meticulously tagged to make them search friendly. But I can't imagine not still having them arranged into Alphabetical/Chronological directory structures just for simple archival/manual retrieval purposes.
I'm probably a lot more organised than the average person in this respect, but how is this not a concept they've encountered in real life?
There's a dresser in your bedroom. One drawer is for socks. One drawer is for pants. Now put a divider in the pants drawer to separate your beige pants and white pants. Is general organisation just an alien concept to youth these days?
(, Sun 26 Sep 2021, 11:05, Reply)
Two piles, clean and dirty, sorted.
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Sun 26 Sep 2021, 14:27,
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If it's in a pile, it's not sorted is it?
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Sun 26 Sep 2021, 18:47,
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My wife
is terrible at organising her digital files.
"I can't find the household finance spreadsheet"
"Well, is it in your financial subdirectory, the household one, or do you keep them all in a main spreadsheet directory?"
"I don't know, just help me find it"
"Well, what's it called?"
"I don't know"
"Well, I certainly don't know, you're the one who saved it. Can't you tell me anything that can identify the file?"
"Why are you being like this?"
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Sun 26 Sep 2021, 11:36,
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Me and my ex are on excellent terms (irreconcilable differences, no hard feelings, yardage yadda).
She's a dab hand at household plumbing stuff. She can change a tap valve, bleed the radiators, all that jazz She's absolutely fucking useless at computers, though.
Not long after I moved out, the internet started getting a bit shit. She was determined to sort it herself, so called up Plusnet support. The support assistant asked her to open the browser and do a speed test.
Shortly followed by the support assistant explaining what a browser is. She's only 35.
(, Sun 26 Sep 2021, 11:47, Reply)
OneDrive and Google Drive both seem to actively discourage organisation as the entire interface is built around search.
I can find pretty much any file I've worked on in the last 20 years in my filesystem because it's all organised. My OneDrive and Google drives are yawning dumpster fires of despair, where files that drop off my recently used list may as well not exist.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Sun 26 Sep 2021, 12:00,
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I use my Onedrive exclusively as a cloud backup/archive
I've got my NAS set up to perpetually sync certain directories with Onedrive and then my other devices (Phone, Office Computer, etc) can also upload to their respective Onedrive folders/directories which then get synced back at my NAS.
It works great, because as you say, Onedrive's UI is a fucking car crash and this essentially integrates Onedrive into my workflow without needing to directly deal with it. I could theoretically use my NAS as the primary 'cloud' device, but the Android/Windows Onedrive integration is still much more reliable than the solutions from my NAS manufacturer (and my employer's VPN is a lot happier talking to Onedrive than some random computer in somebody's house).
It seems that most of these UI's seem to be heading in the direction of portable device compatibility - which I can understand - but it's a massive pain in the arse for us old gits that still find Windows Explorer to be as transformative now as it was back in 1995.
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----> mumsnet/talk/AIBU
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Sun 26 Sep 2021, 14:24,
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Maybe the 'kids' have a point.
I don't see directories and file systems going away but I also don't see them as immutable either.
(, Sun 26 Sep 2021, 17:34, Reply)
You only need to look at the difference between UNIX and DOS file systems to see that.
“Everything is a file, no restrictions on naming, file type independent of file name”, versus, “Files only contain data, name must conform to the 8.3 letter standard, file extension defines file type”.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sun 26 Sep 2021, 19:11,
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A SINGL sorry, caps lock...A singe file directory with all your files is fine if you prefer to use search
but you still need to think about how you uniquely identify them so search doesn't bring up a pile of ambiguous matches, and this also takes planning and forethought, possibly more than if you used a directory hierarchy. If you don't, you'll have trouble finding stuff quickly.
I still kept some old DOS habits, like not putting spaces in directory names, totally unnecessary I know. It took me years of using windows to start using more than 8 characters in a file name, but now my rule is to name things that tell you as much about the file as possible, preferably using a consistent pattern. That way both location and search can be used to locate things
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Mon 27 Sep 2021, 0:14,
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