Hope it turns out to be something decent, like raping a disabled girl
And not some Huw Edwards style storm in a tea cup or some shiela they’ve found now claiming she couldn’t have consented in 2008 because she was coked out of her head before she woke up to discover brand snoring next to her and jizz on her coldplay t-shirt
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sat 16 Sep 2023, 11:13,
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It's definitely going to be sexual assault of some form or another.
But I suspect he's going to be significantly closer to Chris Evans than Jimmy Savile on the Predometer.
Probably being accused of using his power/influence to stick his hands down the pants of inebriated junior colleagues. Basically a straight Philip Schofield - but being that the offences were of the heterosexual variety, we won't crucify him quite as severely.
Considering the direction in which he's chosen to take his career, I suspect this kind of exposure will wind up working hugely in his favour - which is a shame.
(, Sat 16 Sep 2023, 11:43, Reply)
Yes mate. Harvey Weinstein got a much easier ride because he’s straight.
This is going to be so much worse than Schofield, who was in a consensual relationship. Schofield was about age inappropriate relationships, power dynamics/grooming, adultery, and dishonesty. If you weren’t such an imbecile relentlessly pushing the gay victimhood narrative, you’d get this. The fact is if Schofield had done what he did with a girl he’d have fared worse as he wouldn’t have morons like you defending the creep. “Phil and Huw did nothing illegal” you bleat. That doesn’t make it OK.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 16 Sep 2023, 12:01,
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Just admit you're a fucking homophobe and be done with it, eh?
Weinstein deserved what he got, but let's be honest. The fact that he's old, fat, ugly and Jewish all factored massively in how the public reacted to his crimes. If his victims were young men as opposed to young women, it would have only been worse for him.
There was a distinct lack of torches and pitchforks pointed at Danny Masterson during his trial, no? Not exactly being vilified now that he's been convicted, either? Is he? Wonder how much of that is because he doesn't resemble a giant walking tumour? Or because his victims weren't male?
If you honestly believe that Huw Edwards and Philip Schofield's sexuality didn't play a significant role in how the public reacted to revelations surrounding their behaviour, then I'd suggest it's you that's the fucking imbecile. Or maybe your latent homophobia is severely clouding your judgement?
(, Sat 16 Sep 2023, 12:28, Reply)
Want to talk about homophobia?
The only reason Boy George has still got a career was because he beat up and chained up a rent boy. If he’d done that to a female, he’d never have been on tv again. But, you know, it was a rent boy. They know what they’re getting into, they’re practically begging for it.
Let’s talk about transphobia, and how you have named yourself after a character from a relentlessly transphobic sitcom.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 16 Sep 2023, 12:36,
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I've named myself after a relentlessly chippy b3tan.
I'm not sure what your point about boy George is. Nobody gives a fuck about prostitutes. Handcuffing one to a radiator during a drug-fuelled psychotic break because you thought they stole your laptop is hardly tantamount to rape, is it? Especially in Facebook court.
(, Sat 16 Sep 2023, 12:46, Reply)
Really displaying all your honesty and intellectual integrity right there.
You are named after a character in a relentlessly transphobic sitcom. Fact.
You are excusing the assault and false imprisonment of a rent boy because ‘nobody gives a fuck about prostitutes’. What scum you are.
And all the while you pretend you’re the good guy. Such a lying piece of shit.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 16 Sep 2023, 12:55,
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No, sweetheart. I'm not 'excusing the assault and false imprisonment of a rent boy'. I'm trying to explain to you in simple English why Boy George still has a career (if you can call it that) following his conviction for false imprisonment.
I didn't say that I don't give a fuck about prostitutes (I don't, really. But that's besides the point). I said that 'nobody' gives a fuck about prostitutes. That's 'nobody' in the figurative sense - you know, like 'nobody' likes Prufrock, although I'm sure one or two people actually do.
'Nobody' is being used in the context of the public as a whole, who (let's be honest) don't have the same kind of record for speaking up for the rights of prostitutes as they have for campaigning for race/gender/sexual equality. Therefore, Boy George - who was hardly a public figure in 2009 to begin with - getting put away for doing a shitload of coke and handcuffing a prostitute to a radiator isn't going to accumulate anywhere near the same kind of Social Media notoriety as that nasty gay Huw Edwards looking for a bit of completely legal homosexual company, is it? Are you still keeping up? Hope so!
Bit of a weird take to presume I'm pretending to be a 'good guy' by suggesting that there will be significantly less outcry to Russell Brand being a pred because his victims are female. Why does that make me a 'good guy'?
I've genuinely no idea who the fuck Tony Hayers, actually is. But the fact that you're so triggered by him probably isn't the most reliable indication that he's all that awul, let's be honest. Okay, that's a lie. I know he's an Alan Partridge character and that you really, really hate him, but that's about it.
(, Sat 16 Sep 2023, 13:17, Reply)
Wow. What a comeback. Totally convincing. You win the argument.
Why don’t you toast your victory with a pint of lager, a small Baileys and a gin and tonic?
Anyway, I thought your lot called them ‘sex workers’, not prostitutes.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 16 Sep 2023, 13:32,
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'Sarcasm is a thinly veiled attempt to disguise feelings of anger, fear, or hurt. It can be a means of diminishing feelings of vulnerability that may be experienced in the willingness to acknowledge the underlying feelings.'
(, Sat 16 Sep 2023, 13:41, Reply)
Can you two just touch each other inappropriately in the green room and spare us the rest of this?
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Sat 16 Sep 2023, 13:52,
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You love it, you slag©️ Russell Brand
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 16 Sep 2023, 14:10,
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I can think of loads of people
who have careers on-par with Boy George despite similarly grubby convictions.
Bez and Ian Brown for a start.
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monkeon schmonkeon, Mon 18 Sep 2023, 13:02,
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Hmmmm.
I had to Google what Bez did. Dealt with by a magistrate, who described the assault as “gentle” and merely a “technical breach” of the law according to The Guardian. Only did time as he refused community service. So I call bullshit on that one.
Ian Brown is a psycho. But when has he ever been a highly paid mainstream presenter of prime time light entertainment?
Who else have you got?
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Mon 18 Sep 2023, 15:31,
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When has Boy George
been a highly paid mainstream presenter of prime time light entertainment?
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monkeon schmonkeon, Mon 18 Sep 2023, 16:09,
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Loads…
The Voice UK
The Voice Australia
C4 Stand up to Cancer
Celebrity Apprentice USA
I’m a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here
He tried to get on Celebrity Big Brother, but was on probation at the time, and the probation service forbade it.
Various other guest appearances on various other shows.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Mon 18 Sep 2023, 16:54,
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"highly paid mainstream presenter" is pushing it with these,
unless The Apprentice USA winners get to join Culture Club.
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monkeon schmonkeon, Mon 18 Sep 2023, 17:08,
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Those shows were watched by millions. At prime time. On major networks. He was a regular on them.
If you don’t think he will have been highly paid for them, there’s not a lot more I can say.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Mon 18 Sep 2023, 17:57,
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Yeah, but not as a presenter.
So, like Ian Brown, then.
Who performed on many mainstream shows, and appeared in a Harry Potter film, even after being found guilty of threatening to cut a woman's hands off.
Your theory that there's some sort of gay privilege with these things is nonsense.
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monkeon schmonkeon, Mon 18 Sep 2023, 19:34,
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Oh, ok, you’re just resorting to being pedantic now.
He wasn’t THE presenter, he wasn’t the host, he wasn’t the anchor. He was a major recurring contributor though. He was a judge on a talent show, then a coach on a talent show, held up as role model for contestants.
I’m genuinely surprised that Brown was in a Harry Potter movie. I did not know this. What he did to his ex was worse than the air rage IIRC.
I don’t have a ‘gay privilege’ theory, I’m just trying to counter the cries of ‘homophobia’ when gay people are called out for doing shitty things. Twitter was awash with people claiming that if Huw and Phil were straight there wouldn’t have been a fuss about what they did. The straight privilege theory, if you will. Complete bollocks. I think in Boy George’s case, he’s cut some slack precisely because it was ‘just’ a rent boy, and not some tart with a heart. That’s where the real homophobia is.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Mon 18 Sep 2023, 20:35,
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I wonder what the reaction would have been
If it was revealed that Huw Edwards or Philip Schofield had been sending a BBC car to pick up a 16 year old boy from his school so that he could be brought to them for sex?
(, Tue 19 Sep 2023, 7:28, Reply)
You think Brand’s being let off lightly? His woes are just beginning.
IIRC Schofield was using an itv car to ferry his teenage friend around. No laws were broken.
Edwards is merely suspended on full pay because diddums got the boohoos, the poor lamb. He’s weeping all the way to the bank. I foresee a big payoff for him too.
So of the two, Phil was way harsher treated.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 19 Sep 2023, 13:14,
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No. But I do hate you.
You really hate the trans women don’t you?
That’s why you named yourself after a character from a repeatedly transphobic sitcom, isn’t it?
Ladyboys! Tee hee!
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 19 Sep 2023, 16:11,
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I named myself after a notoriously chippy b3tan. We've had this conversation already, dear.
(, Tue 19 Sep 2023, 16:28, Reply)
You’ve told that lie before, yes.
You have quoted (and misquoted) the sitcom many times, demonstrating you are a Partridge fanboy.
Quick, lie and call me a homophobe, it’s your oft used get out jail free card.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 19 Sep 2023, 17:00,
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It's a 90 minute special. It'll need to be more than a Chris Evans. I wouldn't be surprised to see more people pulled into it as well.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Sat 16 Sep 2023, 12:33,
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Keeping my fingers crossed for Katherine Ryan
Not getting my hopes up, though.
(, Sat 16 Sep 2023, 12:35, Reply)
I don’t know, sometimes they puff these things up a bit to make a show
It might turn out to be one allegation that someone’s willing to make, and then they go out and trawl for statements from every root he’s had until they get enough saying he acted like the entitled pantsman who never called them afterwards that he probably was, to flesh out the show and get the bile rising before they hit you with the big claim
he seemed charming. Shazza told me not to trust him. I should have listened….
I guess we’ll find out, but if it’s pissweak it’ll only build him up
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sat 16 Sep 2023, 12:54,
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Yeah. There are loads of docs on streamers that would make great hour long, ninety minute, films.
The cunts turn it into four hour long episodes, and it kills a good story.
However, Dispatches is usually a little better than that. Maybe they’ve been blinded by the fact it’s a celebrity story. The Sunday Times is involved too, so maybe there is a big story. I wonder if their investigation began before or after Theroux met Ryan.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 16 Sep 2023, 13:06,
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it weren't Bill cosby level, but seeing the allegations I reckon there's enough there to sink him
maybe not totally, but enough to make him a pariah with 5 separate ones. reckon it was someone in his management team that spilled the beans
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sat 16 Sep 2023, 22:46,
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It was pretty fucking bleak. His conspiracy theory fans won’t dump him, but apart from that lot, he’s done.
Not sure about your management theory. I think it was sheer weight and volume of allegations combined with his general behaviour and creepy admissions on stage. I cannot believe I hadn’t heard about his on air chat with Jimmy Savile before. Still, hypothetically the fallout could get him arrested.
Which paper will be more sanctimonious? The Sun, where he occasionally wrote and awarded him shagger of the year three times, or The Guardian, where he had a weekly column for some time?
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 16 Sep 2023, 23:10,
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I just read his management split with him in 2020, they may have been keeping a lid on these until now
I reckon if you’re a celebrity who likes to root as much a brand claims he did, you’re bound to get 1 or 2 claims. Sex is kind of dangerous and open to misunderstanding and regret and selfishness. But these are 3 solid serious ones imho, and being a celebrity, especially as he’s not some repulsive old fat fuck like Weinstein, cosby or Louis ck, he shouldn’t have needed to hurt women to get a screw. He could easily have been a pantsman without assaulting anyone. sounds like he did, so he deserves what’s coming
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sun 17 Sep 2023, 0:31,
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Well, Katie Hopkins, and Tommy Robinson (I didn’t know he was still a thing) have gone in to bat for him, so he’ll probably get a knighthood.
Speaking of which, Jagger got away with an awful lot. I guess he’s not an abusive lover. His initial behaviour towards his daughter Karis was fucking vile though.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 17 Sep 2023, 1:01,
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And wyman’s 13 year old girlfriend
Still, it’s the 21st century and rape is more of a faux pas than it used to be. Having said that, Trump was found by a court to have finger raped some poor sheila and he could well be president again notwithstanding. Sounds like much the same crew of apologists are now defending brand
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sun 17 Sep 2023, 1:38,
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" Hope it turns out to be something decent, like raping a disabled girl"
(, Sat 16 Sep 2023, 20:41, Reply)
well, there was a 16 year old that choked on his dick according to one allegation
so I guess we'll all go away only partially satisfied
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sat 16 Sep 2023, 22:48,
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