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This is a link post Police Brutally Attack War Hero
nsfw
(I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Sun 30 Nov 2008, 23:34, Reply)
This is a normal post My mate's...
...a copper and he's told me he's been regretfully heavy-handed before now. They're all so terrified of being shot, knifed, jumped by a gang or garotted that the mission statement is "In the van, quick as you can".

This is just wrong though. With a capital 'Wro'.
 (R. Jimlad twitter.com/sirmarkymark, Sun 30 Nov 2008, 23:44, Reply)
This is a normal post The police are "terrified"?
They have more powers now than ever before.
I can't recall the last time I heard a policeman was badly injured by a member of the public. But everyday I hear about cops battering the fuck out of someone who didn't deserve it.

This is going to get worse and worse.
Once they're issued with tasers things are going to get really ugly.
 (I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Sun 30 Nov 2008, 23:55, Reply)
This is a normal post I don't do politics...
... but if I did, I'd say go forth into your nearest town of a Saturday night and try maintaining some form of calm.

For everything else there's Mastercard.

I may have mixed my metaphors adverts there.
 (R. Jimlad twitter.com/sirmarkymark, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:00, Reply)
This is a normal post A guy once said.....
....."If you arm the Police, you must also arm the public, THAT'S democracy". The moment the police are armed & the public aren't, you're living in a dictatorship.
 (Stashie is plotting against his blender on, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:01, Reply)
This is a normal post I can't be arsed googling...
Bill Hicks?
 (R. Jimlad twitter.com/sirmarkymark, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:03, Reply)
This is a normal post Nope.....
....Philosophical guy called Alan that I used to work with.
 (Stashie is plotting against his blender on, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:04, Reply)
This is a normal post When
Alan gets elected, sign me up for a rifle.

Cuz, y'know, sometimes people just bug me.
 (R. Jimlad twitter.com/sirmarkymark, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:06, Reply)
This is a normal post HaHaHaHaHa
Right you are then bud.....will do ;-D
 (Stashie is plotting against his blender on, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:08, Reply)
This is a normal post Excellent!

(R. Jimlad twitter.com/sirmarkymark, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:13, Reply)
This is a normal post twas talked about alot in a
published thesis called "pacifism as pathology"
 (I helped save b3ta! sutton a non-prophet organization!, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:09, Reply)
This is a normal post I wouldn't agree with that statement at all.
As Max Weber pointed out, the whole point of the nation state (esp. democracy) is that it has the legitimate monopoly of violence.
If people are as armed as the apparatus of the state, then the country doesn't work as a cohesive entity as each group within the country (be they religious, ethnic, regional, political etc) then has the legitimate right to violently attack others.

Arm the public and you deminish the state and the democratic institutions that maintain it.

/plolotics blog
 (I helped save b3ta! Fishcat Difficult difficult lemon difficult., Mon 1 Dec 2008, 9:16, Reply)
This is a normal post im a copper (ish) not a retarded pcso.. i work for MoD plod
i have done my training, i dont agree why they arrested him, but how is how we are taught. no more 'pink and fluffy' its just do the job, if they resist arrest, if youre innocent be shush get cuffed, get cleared... if you're resisting, we're told to do whatever it takes now...

but back to point 1, i dont know why, but they did it within our guidelines we MUST follow!
 (I helped save b3ta! Lord_Munkee, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:05, Reply)
This is a normal post I think that all police as part of their training should be battered with a night-stick.
Just so they know what it's like.

Don't dish out what you're not prepared to take.
 (I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:10, Reply)
This is a normal post haha cunt
you dont think when im out in whiehall/leicester sq etc... i dont get assholes attacking with beer bottles etc?
been there done it mate. that comment made you look stupid cos we get attacked as much as we give, and in my experience actually we get attacked before we get 'arresty' we only retaliate

when you have something valid and some experience or knowlege, then come back to me with a proper argument

that or shut the fuck up
 (I helped save b3ta! Lord_Munkee, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:18, Reply)
This is a normal post When you're issued with a taser, make sure to zap yourself before using it.

(I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:20, Reply)
This is a normal post im trained and tested on thanks
5 seconds worth, tingles like fuck... we dont abuse things cheers
 (I helped save b3ta! Lord_Munkee, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:24, Reply)
This is a normal post Try forty seconds.
Also, have you recently been trained for 'civil unrest'?
 (I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:25, Reply)
This is a normal post he resisted arrest, he was hardly battered, some hard core squaddie whos pissed giving abuse
and the punching was to the inner elbow to bend his arm to cuff him.. 40 seconds of taser? what the fuck? as if..

serisouly dude fuck off and die


anyway as in any job you DO get assholes, so its likely there are, but dont taint all with the same brush 99% of us are honest hard working people who do a good job unlike lifeless hate preachers like you

are you a hook handed preacher of hate cos you sound like one
 (I helped save b3ta! Lord_Munkee, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:33, Reply)
This is a normal post "serisouly dude fuck off and die"
Thank you officer.
 (I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:35, Reply)
This is a normal post my pleasure :)

(I helped save b3ta! Lord_Munkee, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:36, Reply)
This is a normal post Stick a taser on your balls.

(I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:38, Reply)
This is a normal post In Canada they all are
"The longest ten seconds of my life", according to a (female) friend of mine.
 (Fuiru Sting, where is thy death?, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 3:53, Reply)
This is a normal post even if...
the guy on the ground is being gobby...Even if he was the scum of the earth, there is no excuse for the behaviour of the police in that video.
 (I helped save b3ta! Kung_Fu_Russ ran out of amusing signatures on, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:30, Reply)
This is a normal post fact

(KnackerDwarf, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:48, Reply)
This is a normal post Excuse me
but you're not suggesting that squaddies are never drunk, never gobby, never resist arrest, and never attack police officers.....are you?

Because this entirely one-sided report makes me seeth with rage. If you're going to present an argument, do it from something slightly more rounded than a tabloid news report.
 (I helped save b3ta! Pew Pew Pew! Lasers! wannabe Gong Farmer, Sun 30 Nov 2008, 23:52, Reply)
This is a normal post Fought in a war ? (oil based or otherwise)
get immunity ! phfft
 (I helped save b3ta! sutton a non-prophet organization!, Sun 30 Nov 2008, 23:55, Reply)
This is a normal post There's only one way to settle this...
/Harry Hill blog.

Oh, they already have.
 (R. Jimlad twitter.com/sirmarkymark, Sun 30 Nov 2008, 23:55, Reply)
This is a normal post Haha
ta for that
 (I helped save b3ta! Jorvic, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:59, Reply)
This is a normal post I don't even know where to start
Being in the Army does not make you a hero. Doing something herioc makes you a hero. The Army is a job/way of life. There are heroes in the army and there are assholes, as everywhere else. Just having the job title is nothing.
The coppers told him, repeatedly no doubt, to bog off. He didn't.
They took him down and he still resisted. I don't condone the punching, but I don't condone drunken fools either.
And those injuries! I get worse playing with my cat.
 (I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:04, Reply)
This is a normal post Sometimes
dicks fuck assholes. And then pussys get pissed off with dicks that do too much fucking. But a pussy's only an inch and a half away from an asshole.... and...

Aww shucks. I just wanted to quote Team America and have a comment 'neath Sundae Girl. You rule.
 (R. Jimlad twitter.com/sirmarkymark, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:12, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm honoured
that you rate my blatherings so highly, and with such rich language.
 (I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:17, Reply)
This is a normal post *swoons*
A-bluther-wuther-nuffy-soo-a-go-go. Bebimble.

Sorry, let me compose. I think your You-tubeyness is delightfully awesome. I shall quit the fanboy-ness from this moment forth tho. You should never meet your heroes. Or heroines. Or get all silly about typing on a msg board somewhere near them.

Umm.. football and stuff....

*yes, we def got away without looking like a geeky fanboy there"
 (R. Jimlad twitter.com/sirmarkymark, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:27, Reply)
This is a normal post Ah...
issues. Feel free to Gaz me. Nobody else is interested.
 (I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:35, Reply)
This is a normal post Done

(R. Jimlad twitter.com/sirmarkymark, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:46, Reply)
This is a normal post Sooner or later...
the police in this country are going to meet massive resistance. They are thugs.
 (I helped save b3ta! Kung_Fu_Russ ran out of amusing signatures on, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:29, Reply)
This is a normal post They will, they're ready for it.
They're blood-hungry and can't wait.
 (I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:31, Reply)
This is a normal post Quick boys TO THE BOMB SHELTER!
I've made some hats out of bacofoil. That should stop those nazis at GHCQ.
 (I helped save b3ta! MrA, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 1:07, Reply)
This is a normal post Also
I hit the wrong button and accidentally reloaded t'page.

The newsreader commentary goes really well with 'Macy's Day Parade' by Green Day.
 (R. Jimlad twitter.com/sirmarkymark, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:49, Reply)
This is a normal post you mean "news reader"

(I helped save b3ta! MrA, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:53, Reply)
This is a normal post No
I mean "purveyor of news". But bless you for joining in.
 (R. Jimlad twitter.com/sirmarkymark, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:56, Reply)
This is a normal post lets have filthy bum sex.

(I helped save b3ta! MrA, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:58, Reply)
This is a normal post Yays!

(R. Jimlad twitter.com/sirmarkymark, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 1:02, Reply)
This is a normal post /puts on mute
A drunk mouths off to cops. Gets restrained. Arrested. There seems to be punching of the right arm to deaden it so he can be cuffed.

Thats what I saw.
 (I helped save b3ta! MrA, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 0:52, Reply)
This is a normal post Damn you
Thats way better than the way I said it...

*steals and post on youtube*
 (I helped save b3ta! Hellzapoppin, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 2:25, Reply)
This is a normal post what utter tosh

(just_steve, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 1:01, Reply)
This is a normal post And we've come full circle
"
 (R. Jimlad twitter.com/sirmarkymark, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 1:12, Reply)
This is a normal post For fucks sake people
Go out on a saturday night when in a town near a military base, take Ripon.. quite, quaint North Yorkshire. Squadies come out and cause havok.. One ran into the kebab shop asking for matches, i obliged not thinking.. he goes out and lets the tires down on the police car.. there are at least a dozen, just to keep the squadies under control.

I dont care if hes been to iraq, if you mouth off to the cops, expect to get arrested. Who knows what he said to them? Rubbing his face on the tarmac was too much. The police in this arnt saints. Its a tough job, and theyre only human, and watching that tape back ide gues the officers them selves would say that better is expected from Police Officers.

Dex. Its a fucking difficult job. They get attacked alot.. can't remember the last time a police officer was attacked? how about the police woman shot in Bradford a couple of years ago? How about you put your self in that possition to protect innocent people?

What do you suggest Dex?

I respect the Police alot, I respect Military people alot

Sure theres legeslative niggles, anti terror laws are a bit ridiculous at the moment. That doesnt how ever reflect upon actual Police men and women. The same as the reasons for the Iraq war do not reflect on military personel

They are all doing difficult jobs, in difficult circumstances so we dont have to

Grow up man. Look around you, the world isnt perfect, but dont tar every person in one organisation because of the actions of another..
 (I helped save b3ta! Jorvic, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 1:08, Reply)
This is a normal post There's nothing "difficult" about going to war.
You sign up, you shoot people, or you get killed.
 (I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 1:30, Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah, then you leave
And you dont have any mental scarring at all.. you dont find it difficult to come back into civilian life.

You dont have to see horrific sights, you dont have to come to terms with taking other people lives etc.

I have no fucking idea what soldiers go through. And I'm glad ill never have to find out

Dex, your an arrogant cunt.. And i dont know why i havn't put you on ignore before now.. maybe because I feel i should listen to other peoples views then argue mine.. But your seriusly going beyond reproach.

Have a good look at some one in your family who was in a war. Have a good look at their life, their psychie.. Ive looked at my grandad, and only now am i realising how much of an effect loosing so many friends has had on him, the things he did and saw.. effected him so much that its cascaded down onto the next generation.

War isnt a fucking easy job mate.. killing some one isnt an easy job (ide hope).. dying whilst technicaly pretty random so there for easy, certainly isnt easy on every one left behind.

Seriusly snap out of it, the reality youve constructed for your self doesnt come anywhere close to everyone elses..
 (I helped save b3ta! Jorvic, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 1:43, Reply)
This is a normal post War is a business.
I'll never fight in one.
 (I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 1:46, Reply)
This is a normal post Neither will I
But what the fuck are you one about saying being a soldier is a piece of cake? Its not a fucking video game?

People make a shit load of money out of war.. it certainly isnt the soldiers though is it?!
 (I helped save b3ta! Jorvic, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 1:49, Reply)
This is a normal post Oh, it IS a game.

(I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 1:51, Reply)
This is a normal post Dont be fecitious
people die in war, civilians mainly

But so do soldiers..

And if we want to avoid thing like Iraq, we should realise, if we send troops in, people will die.

The media etc like to talk about lazer guided missiles etc.

We think war is clinical now. only the "baddies" will die

Well its not a GAME, its real, people die.. I havnt seen a war and i know that.. Fuck knows how an actual soldier feels about it, I know there are a few on b3ta.. and its not the type of conversation i would like to bring up with my soldier friends.

Seriusly Grow up..
 (I helped save b3ta! Jorvic, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 1:54, Reply)
This is a normal post If there were no soliders, those prepared to die for a cause they've been told/brainwashed is worty, there would be no war.
A soldier is basically a brainless shell.

You think those who send people to war/die give a fuck about the troops?

That's funny.
 (I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 2:03, Reply)
This is a normal post I do try to like you...
But you are an extremely ignorant/arrogant/naive/immature/ireallydon'tknow individual...

Jorvic never said that people who send soldiers into batle give a fuck about them... He seems to have a similar viewpoint to yours, except he seems somewhat educated, whereas you seem to have a huge fucking chip on your shoulder about everything. All I ever see you doing on b3ta is bitching and moaning about something, or being unreasonably cuntish.

Cunt off.
 (I helped save b3ta! Tu9 01100011011101010110111001110100, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 3:14, Reply)
This is a normal post I actually agree that this is police brutality
But that is an amazingly smug and cuntish thing to say.

And if "a soldier is basically a brainless shell", why do you care about footage of him being beaten up? Surely this should just register as zombies fighting zombies to you, and you should just go on to the next 9/11 conspiracy or whatever.
 (Cap'n, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 10:18, Reply)
This is a normal post Ahahaha
I've not ignored anybody in a Loooong time

You almost held a decent conversation before turning into Monday's biggest twat

*ignores*
 (I helped save b3ta! Frisbee OG wanker, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 11:23, Reply)
This is a normal post You cock.
"There's nothing "difficult" about going to war.
You sign up, you shoot people, or you get killed."

Serious.

You cock.
 (simon shitting mason, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 14:05, Reply)
This is a normal post This
is an excellent example of how the media twists things, and of how eyewitness testimony can be totally unreliable.

She said he was unmoving and being assaulted, I clearly saw him struggling before the punches.

She said the officer only stopped when cars went past, from what I saw the passengers would be able to see what was going on

Also: Assault is also verbal, he was clearly being aggressive towards them and they decided to arrest him.

This is just another bullshit attempt to make officers on the frontline look bad, I've seen far worse things, and the joke is the louts that ask for it usually get it and then feel sorry for themselves.

War hero my ass, he can go fuck himself for being a drunken fool.

*end of rant*
 (I helped save b3ta! Hellzapoppin, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 1:11, Reply)
This is a normal post claps
Its like that lass in Sheffield, accused the police that arrested her of racial abuse and over use of force.. seen in court etc. Police exonarated. She was being a silly drunken bitch and she knew it..
 (I helped save b3ta! Jorvic, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 1:22, Reply)
This is a normal post There's no such thing as a 'War Hero'.
War = Death

I copied and pasted that.

That said, he didn't deserve that.

The police are out of control.
 (I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 1:22, Reply)
This is a normal post It all relative
If he acted like that to 3 random guys it's quite possible he'd have been beaten to death.

That said, he prob acted out like that because they were police officers, no way would he have done it to 3 similar sized guys who were out for a few drinks.

My point is that videos like this should be taken with a pinch of salt as they are trying to deliberately lead you to a conclusion, when in actual fact what happened is very ambiguous.

I don't deny that there are instances of police brutality, but they are few and far between. This example falls very short of that category though.
 (I helped save b3ta! Hellzapoppin, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 1:32, Reply)
This is a normal post Well, all I see is police brutailty.

(I helped save b3ta! (|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 1:34, Reply)
This is a normal post Police are only human
and if you want to see something in a vid like this, you will see it.

www.michaelbach.de/ot/sze_silhouette/index.html

Does she spin left or right? The truth is that this is an amorphous elastic blob that our brains interpret as something, when maybe there is actually nothing.

*wanders off to make sculptures out of bogeys*
 (I helped save b3ta! Hellzapoppin, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 2:41, Reply)
This is a normal post Do you know any policemen?
I'm assuming you don't, as you've managed to convince yourself that they are not human, but automatons working for the oppressive government.
 (I helped save b3ta! TheAlmightyBeev, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 8:53, Reply)
This is a normal post fuck off.
A number of officers have an individual on the ground. It is clear from that footage that the person on the ground is going nowhere. You clearly see one of the officers punching and grabbing the head of the subdued individual.
 (I helped save b3ta! Kung_Fu_Russ ran out of amusing signatures on, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 1:47, Reply)
This is a normal post He was going in the back of the van when it arrived
if he was still struggling (he was still struggling) you can't let him up.

Pinned down is not the same as subdued. I can't remember a punch to the head but he did knock him on the ground a couple of times. Big deal.

The 'horrific' injuries were some grazes on his cheek.

In a nutshell, some meat head drunken moron had his nuts handed to him by some police officers. Good. I'm not gonna lose any sleep.
 (I helped save b3ta! Hellzapoppin, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 2:17, Reply)
This is a normal post As well as nice people, you get twats who are police
and you get twats who are in the army.

It just so happens that four twats had a meeting. Scaping the guys head on the floor was rough, but then biting a copper's leg is just stupid.
 (trouble123, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 1:39, Reply)
This is a normal post You Really Are A Prize Turd
^That.
 (I helped save b3ta! Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 2:27, Reply)
This is a normal post You've been
awfully quiet of late young man. S'up?
 (R. Jimlad twitter.com/sirmarkymark, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 2:34, Reply)
This is a normal post ENGLISH POLICE & DRUNK PEOPLE
What did you expect?
 (I helped save b3ta! Darklord, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 2:48, Reply)
This is a normal post Croquet,
sandwiches on the lawn and 42 years moaning about the injustices of kickball.

/Welsh racist blog
 (R. Jimlad twitter.com/sirmarkymark, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 2:51, Reply)
This is a normal post nsfw?

(largoembargo ???, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 3:11, Reply)
This is a normal post Why do you fall for this every time?
Imagine the same video with a different voice over - he was clearly struggling, and the bit where he "Fell over" looks remarkably like he jumped at the cops - sadly the camera pulls away, but therefore my interpretation is as valid as hers/yours.

Also, what innocent person bites a policeman? If he wasn't struggling, he'd have been in that van in 30 seconds.

Now, I appreciate that some police are bullies, just as some Office Managers are, but as said above, most of them are not.
 (I helped save b3ta! TheAlmightyBeev, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 8:49, Reply)
This is a normal post The police ...
are shitbags, I had a beating by them for being drunk and disorderly. My mate ran off (who was on bail at the time) so we were told to lie on the ground, i then got a mag light over the back of the head and my knee jumped on twice which swelled up so much i couldnt get my jeans off in the cell. The next day i wanted to put a complaint in and they said nobody would believe us as we were 'hooligans' and who would the courts believe.

BASTARDS
 (I helped save b3ta! SpookySpoon www.vivino.com/users/hig.func, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 12:39, Reply)
This is a normal post I keep meaning to ignore you
Then I remember how entertaining it is listening to the utter shit you come out with.

Carry on.
 (edhead, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 13:18, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm not commenting on
why he was arrested, nor will I comment on the character of the individual being arrested.

But he WAS being arrested. If you resist arrest, the police are in the right to use necessary force to affect the arrest. The officer was punching the arm that the arrestee was resisting, in order to cause enough pain in that part of the body to cause arrest. Yes he had scratch marks on his face... he was rithing... resisting arrest.

If I am ever in the situation where I am to be arrested, I would gladly go quietly, and deal with this civilly down the station. If there is no case, the police can "dearrest" you. The sad fact of the matter is that if you show force of any description to the police, they can only take this in a threatening manner. Act politely, say you're sorry, back down from your drunken high horse, and the police are likely to not give two flying fucks about you!

We all jumped on the Daily Fail for causing such uproar over the Brand/Ross incident, but we're falling for the same thing with this... come on people, see some sense!
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 (I helped save b3ta! DavyBoyInGravyJoy Grey Goose Vodka on Ice, nothing finer, Mon 1 Dec 2008, 13:20, Reply)