I wonder why atheism seems to upset people far more than other religions do...
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 11:10, Reply)
Your God's a cunt.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 11:16, Reply)
You could make handy and adorable pamphlets out of the pages of www.thebricktestament.com. This one's my personal favourite.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 13:45, Reply)
refusing to drive a bus with an advert for God on the side
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 11:17, Reply)
but I've yet to see a news report where it happened.
Meanwhile, busses are plastered with adverts for various religious organisations and no drivers of other religions seem to object.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 11:20, Reply)
'have you considered our lovely religion' and 'your religion is wrong'.
I see the point although I see little point in either.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 11:22, Reply)
so 'your religion is wrong' is implied.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 11:25, Reply)
That said, 'buy Pepsi' is not a message which is likely to be complained about, whereas 'Don't buy Coke' is.
The latter is implied by the former.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 11:33, Reply)
What else could you say? "Be an atheist - when you die, nothing!" ;)
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 11:48, Reply)
"Don't buy Coke" is taking it too far. It'd be more like, "Fizzy drinks are not good for you."
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 14:10, Reply)
The message is, however, agnostic, not atheist.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 11:21, Reply)
it does not become a Christian message.
There is probably no God is an agnostic comment.
I like agnostics. Atheists are too nutty fro me.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 11:32, Reply)
Because they wank or don't hit their kids.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 11:36, Reply)
are usually ex-religious types. I was brought up athiest so it wasn't a big deal for me that there was no god.
Depends how you define athiest, I'd say it isn't necessary to have a 100% certainty of gods non-existance to be called one. Agnostics are kind of middling to me, willing to go either way
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 13:05, Reply)
Atheists believe that there is no God.
There are two types - ones who do not believe that there is a God because they have never considered it (babies) and those who believe that there is no God because they have considered it.
If you do not believe that there is no God then you are an agnostic.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 16:05, Reply)
from any direction
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 11:24, Reply)
"we don't/can't know if there is a god or not" is agnostic.
"there probably isn't a god" is atheist - there might possibly be a god, but there's no evidence for it.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 12:06, Reply)
unicorns, fairies, wookies, whatever. If I came and told you that I had a unicorn grazing at the end of my garden you'd call me mad. And quite rightly so.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 19:41, Reply)
and every permutations of bus-driver/faith/poster, until no faith posters are allowed. At all. They bug me, it should be personal choice - I like these atheist ones as it starts that process going...
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 11:23, Reply)
So it's a possibility that they will ALL stop as a result of this one.
Makes a lot of sense to me...
Lots of campaigns for religion, that annoy me. One against religion that raises debate about whether they're should be any at all. It's working quite well IMO.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 12:10, Reply)
that involves worshipping signs on buses.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 12:53, Reply)
What an idiot.
Does he refuse non-believers on the bus as well?
thought not.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 11:20, Reply)
And I love this campaign. About time people had such a thing shoved down their throats, as it's just what every other religion has been doing for years.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 11:22, Reply)
Israel are killing Arabs and keeping them in concentration camp conditions.
Is 'well, someone did the same to us' a good enough response?
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 11:35, Reply)
exactly are you comparing to Gaza in that clearly loaded comment?
I'm talking about the world in which I live in. In Britain in the 21st century.
And no I don't cocoon myself away, with fingers in my ears going 'la la la' before you try that one.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 12:06, Reply)
It's just as bad as enforcing Christianity, or any other religion on the public.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 11:58, Reply)
One of the reasons this is happening is to spark debate as the whether this should be allowed at all. Because people like this guy wont drive his bus, there's no reason for someone that doesn't believe to refuse to work if the tables are turned.
There's a lot of reasons why this is happening, you'd have to look up Dawkins' websites for details. But, the fact of the matter is, it's doing the job, which is good for society.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 12:20, Reply)
but the whole thing just seems rather hypocritical to me.
I'm reading The God Delusion at the moment, and the overwhelming sense I get from it is that Dawkins' over-zealousness makes him his own worst enemy.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 12:44, Reply)
but have to admit I'm rather enjoying watching the backlash.
Dawkins is great at what he does, but he's no politician. I don't think he's over zealous, just very harshly pointing out that to date scientific evidence has never supported any notion of 'god' or 'gods'
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 13:35, Reply)
... some football fans don't get people who aren't fans of football, but can still relate to people who support another team.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 11:30, Reply)
Atheists are a team.
They might not understand agnostics, but I do not think many people have a problem disliking fundamentalists of any belief system, be that Hindu, Moslem, Atheist, Jewish, Christian or duck.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 11:39, Reply)
13/01/09 - Never Forget
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 11:47, Reply)
Atheism doesn't require you to actively reject any gods/deities/supernatural bollocks (that's anti-theism). Atheism is simply not having beliefs.
To use the football analogy:
Atheists don't follow football at all.
Anti-theists don't like football and don't think any team is worth following.
Agnostics don't think we can know which team is right to follow.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 11:54, Reply)
In fact, atheists believe that there is no God.
That belief is not based on provable fact, any more than Hindu or Abrahamic religions are - it is faith based.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 12:01, Reply)
So, they're saying, prove it and we'll believe as well. But until you can.....
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 12:25, Reply)
Prove it or we will ridicule you.
I would feel the same about someone who said 'prove that there is no God or I shall ridicule you'.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 16:02, Reply)
...as I don't consider the lack of a belief the equivalent of an active disbelief.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 12:33, Reply)
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(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 13:29, Reply)
since it is belief without proof.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 16:03, Reply)
saying atheism is like a religion, is like saying that not collecting stamps is a hobby
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 14:05, Reply)
I do not think that atheism is a religion. It is, in fact, definitely not.
It is a faith though.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 16:03, Reply)
It's hardly intolerant, expressing an opinion that he'd rather not drive a bus that contradicts his religious beliefs, but if it was the only one available then he would.
If his company can accommodate him without going out of their way, then I don't see a problem
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 11:39, Reply)
as I don't agree with it.
What's the problem?
*should point out she's a Christian and doesn't give a shit what anyone else believes or doesn't believe, so long as it makes them happy.*
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 12:01, Reply)
what if a a christian refused to drive a bus with a muslim message on the side, like 'Allah Loves you' or whatever, or visa versa. The backlash then would be seen in an entirely different light.
I just think it highlights a point, should we really be advertising any of this stuff?
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 13:51, Reply)
He's refusing to do his job. Fire him....
...and as he leaves the office, throw jelly beans at him while shouting "where is your god now?"
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 12:16, Reply)
and I can't see how this is worse than the ad campaign which it was in response to, the one basically telling me I'm going to eternal damnation for not believing what a minority of humans believe. Nor those with anti-gay or anti-abortion messages.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 12:44, Reply)
People should just be left to believe whatever they want to believe, as long as it makes them a happy and decent member of society. I don't want a bus telling me what to believe in.
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 12:50, Reply)
telling the truth...
(, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 12:51, Reply)