Can someone in the know explain why "riot police"
Are always so demonstrably aggressive? There must be a reason for it? Yes, I know it's in the title, but still. Every time you see a lot of police in one area the normal "innocent until guilty" and "Right to peaceful demonstration" seem to go right out.
(, Mon 28 Jun 2010, 1:23, Reply)
An enormous amount of research goes into this
Generally on Crowd Psychology. There are certain points in the behaviour of crowds that, if not responded to, cause the protest to escalate into a riot. If you watch, you see it's one person who moves forward to sit down, and a V-shape of people follow him. The actions prove to be innocent, but it's that manner in which people in a crowd operate that lead to stone-throwing and Molotov cocktails; it only takes one person.
An aerial commander, given two seconds' choice, will order the front line (who aren't even in riot position anyway) to make a 10m charge forward, to break the crowd's confidence. That's all. Scare tactics, to stop the surface tension bubbling over into violence.
If the crowd DID escalate, you'd see a solid line of officers and a spearhead technique to go in and remove the two or three agitators inside the protest who are stirring up the crowd.
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Grrrmachine the indifference engine, Mon 28 Jun 2010, 7:55,
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Ahhh, the old 'punch them before they punch you' style of drunken pub logic.
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OneSullenBrit *air sandwiches*, Mon 28 Jun 2010, 10:01,
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stupid protesters
they hold the G20 and G8 summit to try and help unfuck things, so why do some people insist making things as difficult for them as possible?
I read on the BBC news site that canada budgeted 970 million US dollars for the security for this event. Im sure the protesters realise the irony that their prescence is causing so much government money wastage.
Im not really the protesting type - i just sit here and get on with things, so maybe i cant see the appeal of all this 'i have free speech, so i will become an ass' mentality.
I understand the rozzers made the move here, but looking at a gallery on the beeb site, some of the protesters were burning cop cars and smashing shit up - hence my initial whinge.
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taters Bah weep grahnah weep ninibong, Mon 28 Jun 2010, 1:30,
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When 80%+ of all the money and resources in the world are NOT owned and controlled by just 1%
Then maybe you might have a point, but they are NOT trying to unfuck things far from it, they are just making a tiny minoirty even more obscenely rich.
If they were a force for good in the world they wouldn't need to spend 970 million dollars protecting themselves.
Wake up sheeple ( whats the singular for sheeple?)!
(, Mon 28 Jun 2010, 1:35, Reply)
If they want to change things they should become politicians, and/or they could use the fact that they have 99% of the vote.
If they didn't spend that much on security they couldn't be in a secure environment discussing how to un-fuck things and reduce deficits.
(, Mon 28 Jun 2010, 1:57, Reply)
And bearing in mind that 60% of the world lives under undemocratic totalitarian rule
what exactly is your point?
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Grrrmachine the indifference engine, Mon 28 Jun 2010, 7:58,
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It's okay you're American you wouldn't understand
but look over there theres a country with out a McDonalds!
(, Mon 28 Jun 2010, 11:07, Reply)
So the $5bn dollars they've just collectively agreed to pay shit-poor countries is making them richer?
(, Mon 28 Jun 2010, 15:11, Reply)
And we spent money to make a fake lake downtown for press conferences for media who weren't invited to cottage country
www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/World/20100626/media-g20-costs-100626/
But as to the video, why are citizens being attacked by riot police for singing our national anthem?
O Canada, glorious and free?
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RedHouse over yonder, Mon 28 Jun 2010, 2:11,
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Not sure they about the attack part,
Note how they start shouting and banging their riot shields to intimidate them, so that they would move away. I'm not sure why they weren't allowed to sit down but it wasn't an attack.
(, Mon 28 Jun 2010, 2:16, Reply)
Fine then, "dispersed"
but it's not clear from the clip what they were doing to deserve it.
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RedHouse over yonder, Mon 28 Jun 2010, 2:37,
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Well...
Sitting down in the middle of the fuckin' road for a start.
(, Mon 28 Jun 2010, 9:28, Reply)
What I don't get is,
if this is a "meeting of the minds" type event for world leaders, and NOT some publicity stunt, why-oh-why are these thing always held in a large metro area?
Surely holding them on a remote island somewhere would be FAR easier for security. I can't imagine .01% of the protesters would spend a good wad of cash to fly/sail/swim to a remote island somewhere.
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Evil Prof. Pixel Masher I made this!, Mon 28 Jun 2010, 3:18,
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^This with bells on
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Crap Little Monkey Deathstar, so good they built it twice, Mon 28 Jun 2010, 7:48,
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You don't think that's EXACTLY why they are in a metro area? It's simple conjouring. Make a big noise here and they will miss what you're really doing elsewhere ;)
*cough*
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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Mon 28 Jun 2010, 8:25,
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Perhaps some sort of secret island base?
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IHaveABadFeelingAboutThis most likely working from home on, Mon 28 Jun 2010, 9:48,
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