
Australian investigation into UK VIP child abusers.
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Former Tory home secretary Leon Brittan
ex-MI6 agent Peter Hayman
former Liberal MP Cyril Smith (Labour at time of the abuse according to cleggy)
Labour Lord Janner
( , Tue 21 Jul 2015, 13:09, Reply)

( , Tue 21 Jul 2015, 13:34, Reply)

Certainly until it became apparent it wasn't just tory nonces.
( , Tue 21 Jul 2015, 13:47, Reply)

because they don't guarantee him a left wing.
( , Tue 21 Jul 2015, 17:06, Reply)

Do you have five minutes. We can talk about your relationship with your father, if you like?
( , Tue 21 Jul 2015, 17:30, Reply)

They're all just disgusting nonces.
( , Tue 21 Jul 2015, 13:45, Reply)

They matter because some may assume being an establishment nonce is the preserve of "the bloody Tories"
Also matters because Lords Janner was publically defended by his friend and fellow Labour MP Keith Vaz who spoke up in parliament to have the 1991 investigation scrapped as he was “the victim of a cowardly and wicked attack”. The investigation has since been shown to have had enough evidence for a prosecution.
Also on Labour, at the time a lot of these abuses were supposed to be taking place Harriet Harman was an official at National Council for Civil Liberties (Now just Liberty) and campaigning on behalf of the Paedophile Information exchange.
And it matters about Smith that being a liberal because he was clearly being defended yet had little party power. What hold did he have over the establishment?
( , Tue 21 Jul 2015, 13:58, Reply)

that vile evil cunt scum got off scott free for her paedophile advocacy. Had she been a tory the BBC, Guardian and Mirror would never have allowed that to happen.
( , Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:05, Reply)

( , Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:42, Reply)

More that they like fucking kids.
( , Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:10, Reply)

It matters to me.
( , Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:18, Reply)

HUGE statement from you.
( , Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:26, Reply)

Smiths party allegiance also mattered to clegg when more accusations were being slung about him before the election.
Clegg made sure to point out smith was a Labour M.P at the time of the abuse.
( , Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:35, Reply)

Do you think the thoughts and actions of an individual dictate those of all his or her associations? Jimmy Saville presented Top of the Pops. Does that mean everyone who presented it was a massive nonce? Should you have not watched it either, because you will be supporting the nonces and their cleverly crafted agenda. Watching it might even make you a nonce by association!
( , Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:45, Reply)

TOTP?
Not just by Saville, but other presenters (throw a rock in 70's radio 1 pool of djs), performers and even crew have been implicated and last I looked investigations were still happening into that show.
( , Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:59, Reply)

Still I don't think the actions of individuals are anything to do with their associations/workplaces etc etc...
These crimes should be pointed at individuals and those who protected them, disregarding their association. It's just a personal opinion, I wouldn't want to taint the many with the actions of the few.
( , Tue 21 Jul 2015, 15:08, Reply)

Members of the catholic church has been accused of child abuse, senior members have been accused of covering it up.
There's also reports of abuse in the methodist and Church of England.
When reporting on this should the nature of the church be mentioned?
Or should it be redacted in order to not taint other believers of the same church?
( , Tue 21 Jul 2015, 15:32, Reply)

A VIP nonce abuses a position of power. That powerful position is relevant, although their beliefs or ideals are not.
( , Tue 21 Jul 2015, 16:06, Reply)

We're running out of horizontal screen space and I hate it when it starts stacking the words in a message.
( , Tue 21 Jul 2015, 16:20, Reply)

( , Tue 21 Jul 2015, 17:13, Reply)

this program, but did it really tell us anything new?
and its was so lurid, the house of cards theme at the start, the re-enactments of kids in cars and the showing of photos . massively brass eye stuff.
( , Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:52, Reply)

But none was really mainstream until this program was made and is now doing the rounds on social media where it can't be affected by a d-notice.
Agree some of it's sensationalist but this has been going on for ages and the investigation is only just starting.
It's taken this long to find someone to chair the investigation that's not linked to a bloody suspect.
And if it takes a few programs like this to shame the authorities into action then so be it.
( , Tue 21 Jul 2015, 15:03, Reply)

It has been on the front page of newspapers, and jokes about mps being paedos now are pretty common in stand-up acts - people have heard about it.
( , Tue 21 Jul 2015, 17:06, Reply)