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This is a link post 60 Minutes: Spies, Lords & Predators
Australian investigation into UK VIP child abusers.

TL:DW
Former Tory home secretary Leon Brittan
ex-MI6 agent Peter Hayman
former Liberal MP Cyril Smith (Labour at time of the abuse according to cleggy)
Labour Lord Janner
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 13:09, Reply)
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but it's only 30 minutes 59 seconds?
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 13:23, Reply)
This is a normal post Adverts been removed

(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 13:31, Reply)
This is a normal post I was just joshing.
still 20 mins of adverts kinda sucks.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 13:34, Reply)
This is a normal post 60 Australian minutes comes to about 31 standard minutes

(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 13:42, Reply)
This is a normal post Time moves faster over there because they're upside down.

(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:29, Reply)
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Coming soon to the BBC if the tories and Murdoch get their way.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 15:46, Reply)
This is a normal post has jams hacked your account?

(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 13:28, Reply)
This is a normal post I am unaware of Jams having a monopoly on posting links to films exposing paedophilia in the UK establishment.

(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 13:34, Reply)
This is a normal post Well he did.
Certainly until it became apparent it wasn't just tory nonces.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 13:47, Reply)
This is a normal post I heard he refuses to eat at KFC
because they don't guarantee him a left wing.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 17:06, Reply)
This is a normal post Interesting observation.
Do you have five minutes. We can talk about your relationship with your father, if you like?
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 17:30, Reply)
This is a normal post Why does their political leanings matter?
They're all just disgusting nonces.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 13:45, Reply)
This is a normal post Well it's a bit like good AIDS and bad AIDS.

(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 13:54, Reply)
This is a normal post When talking about nonces in the establishment that are being protected even today it helps to put them into context within the establishment.
They matter because some may assume being an establishment nonce is the preserve of "the bloody Tories"

Also matters because Lords Janner was publically defended by his friend and fellow Labour MP Keith Vaz who spoke up in parliament to have the 1991 investigation scrapped as he was “the victim of a cowardly and wicked attack”. The investigation has since been shown to have had enough evidence for a prosecution.

Also on Labour, at the time a lot of these abuses were supposed to be taking place Harriet Harman was an official at National Council for Civil Liberties (Now just Liberty) and campaigning on behalf of the Paedophile Information exchange.

And it matters about Smith that being a liberal because he was clearly being defended yet had little party power. What hold did he have over the establishment?
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 13:58, Reply)
This is a normal post I still cannot fucking believe that
that vile evil cunt scum got off scott free for her paedophile advocacy. Had she been a tory the BBC, Guardian and Mirror would never have allowed that to happen.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:05, Reply)
This is a normal post I can't believe she didn't just give a "politician's apology" and shrug it off.

(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:42, Reply)
This is a normal post I don't think political alignment is an issue.
More that they like fucking kids.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:10, Reply)
This is a normal post When they're being protected because of their political status and have used their position of power to abuse kids.
It matters to me.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:18, Reply)
This is a normal post Posting this video is really showing intent.
HUGE statement from you.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:26, Reply)
This is a normal post Yes by all means call them "MP" but their alignment matters not

(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:27, Reply)
This is a normal post Matters to me when i'm being asked to vote for their political parties every 4 or so years.
Smiths party allegiance also mattered to clegg when more accusations were being slung about him before the election.

Clegg made sure to point out smith was a Labour M.P at the time of the abuse.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:35, Reply)
This is a normal post Why?
Do you think the thoughts and actions of an individual dictate those of all his or her associations? Jimmy Saville presented Top of the Pops. Does that mean everyone who presented it was a massive nonce? Should you have not watched it either, because you will be supporting the nonces and their cleverly crafted agenda. Watching it might even make you a nonce by association!
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:45, Reply)
This is a normal post I think the actions of a party and how they protect those accused of serious crimes is very important.
TOTP?
Not just by Saville, but other presenters (throw a rock in 70's radio 1 pool of djs), performers and even crew have been implicated and last I looked investigations were still happening into that show.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:59, Reply)
This is a normal post Yes TOTP is probably a bad analogy.
Still I don't think the actions of individuals are anything to do with their associations/workplaces etc etc...

These crimes should be pointed at individuals and those who protected them, disregarding their association. It's just a personal opinion, I wouldn't want to taint the many with the actions of the few.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 15:08, Reply)
This is a normal post Ok here's one for you.
Members of the catholic church has been accused of child abuse, senior members have been accused of covering it up.

There's also reports of abuse in the methodist and Church of England.

When reporting on this should the nature of the church be mentioned?
Or should it be redacted in order to not taint other believers of the same church?
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 15:32, Reply)
This is a normal post Yes it shouldn't be considered.
A VIP nonce abuses a position of power. That powerful position is relevant, although their beliefs or ideals are not.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 16:06, Reply)
This is a normal post Shall we agree to disagree?
We're running out of horizontal screen space and I hate it when it starts stacking the words in a message.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 16:20, Reply)
This is a normal post Ha!
Why can't /talk be this civilised =D
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 16:21, Reply)
This is a normal post When I asked them, it turned out to be because my mum is a whining spastic.

(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 17:13, Reply)
This is a normal post there was a big hoohah about
this program, but did it really tell us anything new?


and its was so lurid, the house of cards theme at the start, the re-enactments of kids in cars and the showing of photos . massively brass eye stuff.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 14:52, Reply)
This is a normal post Most apart from the victim interviews is stuff i've heard about in the past.
But none was really mainstream until this program was made and is now doing the rounds on social media where it can't be affected by a d-notice.

Agree some of it's sensationalist but this has been going on for ages and the investigation is only just starting.
It's taken this long to find someone to chair the investigation that's not linked to a bloody suspect.
And if it takes a few programs like this to shame the authorities into action then so be it.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 15:03, Reply)
This is a normal post It does seem to be quite a mainstream story.
It has been on the front page of newspapers, and jokes about mps being paedos now are pretty common in stand-up acts - people have heard about it.
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 17:06, Reply)
This is a normal post *grabs pitchfork*

(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 15:23, Reply)
This is a normal post Most of them are dead
*passes spade*
(, Tue 21 Jul 2015, 15:29, Reply)