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This is a normal post Long time to get a trailer but WOW nice I hope the story is as good.

(I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 7:46, Reply)
This is a normal post the story is shallow as a teacup, 2 Judges against a tower block of baddies.
It's a deliberate character piece full of eye candy, which isn't a bad way for a hopeful series of films to start.
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 7:50, Reply)
This is a normal post Series? That's interesting.
I hope Karl Urban doesn't do much Stallone-eques gurning through out. He looks a little gurnie in this clip.
 (I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 7:54, Reply)
This is a normal post I think it's impossible to play Dredd and not Gurn
the cartoon jaw is the one thing Stallone had right
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 7:57, Reply)
This is a normal post I was sort of hoping he would play it straight and claim the character as his own
like Heath Ledger redefined The Joker in The Dark Knight.
 (I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:01, Reply)
This is a normal post I wouldn't say Heath Ledger redefined the joker, he's been like that a lot in the comics since the 80s
granted that particular version hadn't been on the big screen before
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:08, Reply)
This is a normal post Indeed, one of the most truthful portrayals of the joker ever done.
If you read killing joke & Arkham asylum for some classic joker.
The "goofy" Nicholson joker just looks hollow.
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:24, Reply)
This is a normal post I bought The Killing Joke for Monty Propps birthday
he was well chuffed.
 (I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:29, Reply)
This is a normal post If he's not got "Dark Knight Returns" get him that for crimbo.
Story of Batman when he's old and retired.
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:35, Reply)
This is a normal post Thanks for the tip
I had to ask about Batman comic when I was looking for his present and was introduced to a complete Batman Geek who was blinding me with his knowledge and he could see my eyes glazing over. So this helps a lot thanks.
 (I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:40, Reply)
This is a normal post Year One
Killing Joke
Arkham Asylum
Dark Knight Returns

are the best I've read
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:45, Reply)
This is a normal post Seconded.

(I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:56, Reply)
This is a normal post 'The Long Halloween' is a great marriage between Batman dealing with the realistic crime aspect of Gotham, and living in a world where genuine super powers exist.
Chris Nolan says it's the book he returned to the most often when making his trilogy.
 (I helped save b3ta! Captain Howdy, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:12, Reply)
This is a normal post Dark Allegiances by Howard Chaykin
It's an Elseworlds Batman set in the 30's and is fucking excellent.
 (I helped save b3ta! Smallbrainfield, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 13:03, Reply)
This is a normal post I get that, the Jack Nicholson joker was rubbish
but the Heath Ledger one... how or why exactly was he the joker? no backstory in the movie, no reason for him to look like he did, or be called the Joker. He was a great villian, but didn't need the make-up or the name
 (Ol' Ginger Bastard a role model for the children, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:30, Reply)
This is a normal post That was the air of mystery behind him
he was called The Joker because of the The Joker Playing Card he left as his calling card. Some people didn't get the idea that he changed his story about how he got his facial scars and thought it was a continuity error, but instead it illustrated that The Joker didn't want people to know his back-story and he makes it up as and when it suits him.
 (I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:38, Reply)
This is a normal post he told different versions of the slashed face backstory to different people,
but why would it need to actually show it? films don't have to take you by the hand through everything do they? I liked the ambiguity.
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:38, Reply)
This is a normal post yeah I get that too
but there was the Scarecrow, he made sense, he scared you, and with that burlap sack looked like a scarecrow, fine. Harvey Dent made sense, the whole half face thing, Bane has that mask which pumps him full of anaesthetic and whatnot, it all makes sense. But with the Joker, there was just no reason, he didn't tell jokes, the playing card thing isn't explained, or the make-up. He was just a (very good) generic psychopath. It just feels like a big plot hole.
 (Ol' Ginger Bastard a role model for the children, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:01, Reply)
This is a normal post In the starting dialogue of The Dark Knight the bank robbers discuss The Joker
It's all theatrics, he's anarchistic there is no reason other than because he is.
 (I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:06, Reply)
This is a normal post hmmm, yeah, still not feeling it
seems like a cop out.
 (Ol' Ginger Bastard a role model for the children, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:15, Reply)
This is a normal post Well other than adding another movie on to explain The Joker then there isn't a lot that can be done
I like the fact that we don't know who he is, his backstory, or why he wears makeup like a clown it adds to the mystery.
 (I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:43, Reply)
This is a normal post Sounds a good idea
Superheroes get their own movies, supervillians should too!

The whole 'air of mystery' thing seems tacked on after the fact, to explain away a hole. It could still have been done in a few minutes in the movie with a 'what do we know about him?' scene, with a few rumours etc. throwing some possibilities up. It didn't need to be definitive. The only reason that they could get away with this is because everyone is as familiar with the Joker as they are Batman.
 (Ol' Ginger Bastard a role model for the children, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 10:12, Reply)
This is a normal post I like the idea of an entire film about Supervillians.

(I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 10:16, Reply)
This is a normal post Without explaining it to the viewer you were put on the same level of bewilderment as his victims.

(I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:07, Reply)
This is a normal post Nothing is truly original
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 (I helped save b3ta! Flash_Bastard, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 13:20, Reply)