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I'm so fucking up for this.

The early reviews are incredible.

And Urban doesn't takes his mask off. At all. Looks like they've nailed the character.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 7:34, Reply)
This is a normal post wow!

(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 7:35, Reply)
This is a normal post Vivid colours !!!!
First clip of this that's made me take notice.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 7:38, Reply)
This is a normal post Long time to get a trailer but WOW nice I hope the story is as good.

(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 7:46, Reply)
This is a normal post the story is shallow as a teacup, 2 Judges against a tower block of baddies.
It's a deliberate character piece full of eye candy, which isn't a bad way for a hopeful series of films to start.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 7:50, Reply)
This is a normal post Series? That's interesting.
I hope Karl Urban doesn't do much Stallone-eques gurning through out. He looks a little gurnie in this clip.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 7:54, Reply)
This is a normal post I think it's impossible to play Dredd and not Gurn
the cartoon jaw is the one thing Stallone had right
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 7:57, Reply)
This is a normal post I was sort of hoping he would play it straight and claim the character as his own
like Heath Ledger redefined The Joker in The Dark Knight.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:01, Reply)
This is a normal post I wouldn't say Heath Ledger redefined the joker, he's been like that a lot in the comics since the 80s
granted that particular version hadn't been on the big screen before
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:08, Reply)
This is a normal post Indeed, one of the most truthful portrayals of the joker ever done.
If you read killing joke & Arkham asylum for some classic joker.
The "goofy" Nicholson joker just looks hollow.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:24, Reply)
This is a normal post I bought The Killing Joke for Monty Propps birthday
he was well chuffed.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:29, Reply)
This is a normal post If he's not got "Dark Knight Returns" get him that for crimbo.
Story of Batman when he's old and retired.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:35, Reply)
This is a normal post Thanks for the tip
I had to ask about Batman comic when I was looking for his present and was introduced to a complete Batman Geek who was blinding me with his knowledge and he could see my eyes glazing over. So this helps a lot thanks.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:40, Reply)
This is a normal post Year One
Killing Joke
Arkham Asylum
Dark Knight Returns

are the best I've read
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:45, Reply)
This is a normal post Seconded.

(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:56, Reply)
This is a normal post 'The Long Halloween' is a great marriage between Batman dealing with the realistic crime aspect of Gotham, and living in a world where genuine super powers exist.
Chris Nolan says it's the book he returned to the most often when making his trilogy.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:12, Reply)
This is a normal post Dark Allegiances by Howard Chaykin
It's an Elseworlds Batman set in the 30's and is fucking excellent.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 13:03, Reply)
This is a normal post I get that, the Jack Nicholson joker was rubbish
but the Heath Ledger one... how or why exactly was he the joker? no backstory in the movie, no reason for him to look like he did, or be called the Joker. He was a great villian, but didn't need the make-up or the name
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:30, Reply)
This is a normal post That was the air of mystery behind him
he was called The Joker because of the The Joker Playing Card he left as his calling card. Some people didn't get the idea that he changed his story about how he got his facial scars and thought it was a continuity error, but instead it illustrated that The Joker didn't want people to know his back-story and he makes it up as and when it suits him.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:38, Reply)
This is a normal post he told different versions of the slashed face backstory to different people,
but why would it need to actually show it? films don't have to take you by the hand through everything do they? I liked the ambiguity.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:38, Reply)
This is a normal post yeah I get that too
but there was the Scarecrow, he made sense, he scared you, and with that burlap sack looked like a scarecrow, fine. Harvey Dent made sense, the whole half face thing, Bane has that mask which pumps him full of anaesthetic and whatnot, it all makes sense. But with the Joker, there was just no reason, he didn't tell jokes, the playing card thing isn't explained, or the make-up. He was just a (very good) generic psychopath. It just feels like a big plot hole.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:01, Reply)
This is a normal post In the starting dialogue of The Dark Knight the bank robbers discuss The Joker
It's all theatrics, he's anarchistic there is no reason other than because he is.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:06, Reply)
This is a normal post hmmm, yeah, still not feeling it
seems like a cop out.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:15, Reply)
This is a normal post Well other than adding another movie on to explain The Joker then there isn't a lot that can be done
I like the fact that we don't know who he is, his backstory, or why he wears makeup like a clown it adds to the mystery.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:43, Reply)
This is a normal post Sounds a good idea
Superheroes get their own movies, supervillians should too!

The whole 'air of mystery' thing seems tacked on after the fact, to explain away a hole. It could still have been done in a few minutes in the movie with a 'what do we know about him?' scene, with a few rumours etc. throwing some possibilities up. It didn't need to be definitive. The only reason that they could get away with this is because everyone is as familiar with the Joker as they are Batman.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 10:12, Reply)
This is a normal post I like the idea of an entire film about Supervillians.

(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 10:16, Reply)
This is a normal post Without explaining it to the viewer you were put on the same level of bewilderment as his victims.

(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:07, Reply)
This is a normal post Nothing is truly original
tinyurl.com/c5dc23z
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 13:20, Reply)
This is a normal post That's a bit fucked up showing fully detailed bullet damage in gory slo mo like that, nearly brought me weetibix back up!
Definitely not intended for the younger audience then I take it?
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:04, Reply)
This is a normal post it's like that and worse the whole way through

(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:06, Reply)
This is a normal post Well it'll be in with the Innit Crowd then
Tho not sure which side they'll be rooting for considering it's essentially a movie about Da Feds.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:28, Reply)
This is a normal post It's been a while since I read 2000ad but that's pretty much what it was like.
Every other frame would show some sort of lovely ultra violence.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:37, Reply)
This is a normal post It probably went that way after I stopped reading it but it's not the Dredd I know from the original series, sorry to sound hipster, but,
I was there from the start as a kid in the '70s, literally from prog one onwards before it was even called 2000ad, I had the free flying thingy n metallic sparkly stickers they gave away on the first few releases n everything.

Then in some sort of classic enactment of every story ever that starts with the above, my Mum decided to throw them all out one time when I wasn't about to object.

She did the same with my Star Wars figures, my original Alien figure with snapping jaw action, and all my original ZX81 games, all at different times. I was afraid to leave the house after a while!
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:56, Reply)
This is a normal post From day one he was Dirty Harry in the future
I can't think of a time when he wasn't shooting holes in people
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:00, Reply)
This is a normal post as long as Walter the Wobot is in there...

(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:13, Reply)
This is a normal post Well of course he was, he was a hard man with a gun who shot bad people
But they didn't smear the screen with blood and have giblets flying thru the air, the point of reading it wasn't for the gore wank and macho chest thumping, it was for the story, cool shit and pleasing boy hood morals, the good guy always won and all that.

This looks like its going to be half the story and twice the gore, nice and easy money off the 300 style crowd, I wonder if they'll throw in some confusingly homo erotic chest out male bonding scenes too, they all seem to have them?

'I feel the need, the need for speed!' ;)

Ah fuckit I'll most likely still watch it, might still enoy it, beyond all the 3D slo mo testosterone flying about there might still be some humour and depth to it...
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:19, Reply)
This is a normal post Like most SF
the star is the universe, not the characters. Dredd is not interesting in himself, but we got to see glimpses of the Mega-City and snippets of its history etc. That was the real hook I think.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:28, Reply)
This is a normal post Good point, in himself he really wasn't that interesting, the world he policed and all the mad shit within it was he real hook,
Seeing it that way explains why it must be fucking hard to bring it to the big screen as in the orginal strip he really isn't the main focus of most of the stories, all the robots, flying cars, belly wheels, Boing and block wars were.

He was almost a robot.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:35, Reply)
This is a normal post Total agreement
stupid voice, stupid gurn and the ultra-explicit gore is not in the spirit.

JD was black humour almost totally lacking in gore, people fell down, that was it.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 10:33, Reply)
This is a normal post Careful!
This means you're not a real man, like me, not like all the other really hard guys who read comics, play video games and own a Bat'Leth! ;)
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 11:09, Reply)
This is a normal post I started with the Space Spinner prog no. 1.
I remember getting in vividly.

Don't when it wasn't violent.
He had a gun and shot bad guys with comical "budda budda" effects :)

[edit]
Here's Dredd in his Daily Star days.
www.forbiddenplanet.co.uk/blog/images/Dredd-secur-o-pod-heist.jpg
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:04, Reply)
This is a normal post Who the hell is saying it wasn't violent
Stop saying I'm saying it wasn't violent.

It was cowboys and indians/spaghetti western style the bad guy gets his dues type violent, bang bang you're dead the good guy always wins, not Braindead look at the giblets and prove you're a real man and not puke fuck the story type violent, THAT'S what I'm saying.

This isn't.

*Or at least from that clip don't look it anyways.

*mind you since when can you judge a film from what they cut into the trailer to get bums on seats?
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:27, Reply)
This is a normal post Dredd wasn't in the first issue was he?

(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:39, Reply)
This is a normal post I can't remember what it was called before it was 2000ad neither
I know I could google but anyone remember? Something very clunky and futuristicy is all I can recall, something like Star Lords Zoom! Or something, LOL!
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:52, Reply)
This is a normal post I don't think it was called anything
as there wasn't a precursor to 2000AD, it just came out as a brand new comic when I was about 11 or 12 - fuck me I'm old :(

If I remember correctly Dan Dare was in it from the beginning and he was resurrected from The Eagle.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 10:00, Reply)
This is a normal post Oh? I thought it was StarLord then merged with some other comic and became 2000ad?
I may be remembering it wrong, it was a damn long time ago now, mind you, it wouldn't be the first time I've seen 'facts' about stuff I grew up with seem entirely wrong to me, and I'm never sure if I'm remembering it wrong, or its another case of a modern 'truth' about the past being slightly twisted by time and Chinese Whispers before anyone wrote it down on the Internet, I've seen a few before, mainly chronology issues or Roddenberry style fan ret con being accepted as fact now.

Meh, doesn't really matter I guess.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 10:13, Reply)
This is a normal post Not sure if this helps
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Dredd#Publication_history
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 10:21, Reply)
This is a normal post Ye it does!
Confirms Dredd first appeared in issue 2 and that Starlord was merged into 2000AD a year after 2000AD was first published.

Thank you :)
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 10:48, Reply)
This is a normal post Strontium Dog was in Starlord IIRC too.

(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 10:57, Reply)
This is a normal post Aha, may heaps I started reading StarLord first and that led me to 2000ad then?
May explain my confusion?

*mayhaps even! Thank you auto correct! :s
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 11:11, Reply)
This is a normal post yep, nazi cops kicking lawbreakers heads in
what's not to love :D
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:40, Reply)
This is a normal post It's Dirty Harry but with a Lawgiver and a Hoverbike :D

(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:44, Reply)
This is a normal post HOVERBIKE!?
I bet they had the same problem with the bike as they had in the last movie. Good for straight lines.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 10:02, Reply)
This is a normal post Actually I'm not sure if the bike comes into it I hope so and I hope they have done the CGI well on it.

(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 10:04, Reply)
This is a normal post The obvious solution to the problem would be to have him ride a bike with normal wheels on it
Then CGI in the silly big fat unsteerable ones from the strip. Even in 3D that should work ok.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 10:17, Reply)
This is a normal post The Batbike was superb though even with it's omnidirectional globe wheels
the CGI was spot on if not a tad implausible.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 10:29, Reply)
This is a normal post Are you saying that with a smile
or a shake of the head?
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:30, Reply)
This is a normal post massive smile

(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:39, Reply)
This is a normal post Thought so!

(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:42, Reply)
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(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:48, Reply)
This is a normal post You should send that in. Tharg will give you 20 british pounds.

(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:13, Reply)
This is a normal post and a Regillian Hotshot
Zarjazz!
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:16, Reply)
This is a normal post Yes!

(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 8:29, Reply)
This is a normal post This looks awesome

(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:10, Reply)
This is a normal post If the rest of the movie is in this league it will be the first comic book genre film worth watching

Don't try and tell me 'Batman Begins' was good, because it was no better than the others.
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 9:44, Reply)
This is a normal post Controversial - I actually liked Batman Begins
although my dog ate my Blu Ray disc of it yesterday so now I have to buy another!
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 10:14, Reply)
This is a normal post Don't bother!

(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 12:21, Reply)
This is a normal post A bit harsh
Replacing the dog just cos it ate your Blu-ray disc. :-)
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 13:45, Reply)
This is a normal post So many disappointments at the cinema this year ... fingers crossed on this one
Just hope it's not all style and no substance and endless Zack Synder style slow mo shots ...
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 10:55, Reply)
This is a normal post I just creamed my pants

(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 12:51, Reply)
This is a normal post Fucking Wow!
Guess that's an 18 for sure, excellent stuff. They should have made this the trailer instead of that duffer they rolled out last month. Thanks Toats!
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 13:01, Reply)
This is a normal post That is just brutal
Just the way I like my Dredd.
LAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWW
(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 14:02, Reply)
This is a normal post Good stuff. Here's hoping the writing is as good as that.

(, Fri 13 Jul 2012, 15:52, Reply)
This is a normal post ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh
awesomeness
(, Sat 14 Jul 2012, 23:46, Reply)