It's only morally wrong when them rich folk do it, init?
(CerebusSticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 8:43,
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Yes
Because poor people don't earn enough to pay tax, so they're not really avoiding anything.
What the fuck is a squeezed middle?
(Extinct Jesus Dossier"...I think it counteracts Hitler's magic...", Tue 24 Jul 2012, 8:52,
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Poor people pay tax all the time VIA V.A.T
And if you're earning over 8 grand a year then your paying income tax too.
[edit] And what about the majority who aren't poor but not rich? Ok i've read the story again can't find a mention of a squeezed middle.
(CerebusSticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 8:54,
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The squeezed middle is sort of the hole in my argument
I think they're basically people who earn enough to keep them out of benefits and on the income tax register, but aren't sufficiently rich to ignore the little costs and dance round the big ones.
(Extinct Jesus Dossier"...I think it counteracts Hitler's magic...", Tue 24 Jul 2012, 12:05,
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of course its morally wrong
you're depriving hospitals from funding as well as many other less important aspects of the society you constantly take from. it's a tiny amount of morally wrong compared to the cunts in banks, but you're still being a cunt like them.
(HappyToastGroat froth, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 8:45,
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23 trillion in tax avoidance from the rich....
i get the feeling the tories are doing their best to have us lot fighting each other
(DefyingDarwinOld, untalented and white,, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 9:03,
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it's not just the Tories
but why shouldn't we self regulate? Just because they're cunts doesn't mean we have to be to each other. Be the better man.
(HappyToastGroat froth, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 9:10,
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True, but basically taxes are higher for the rest of us because many of the ultra rich are able to avoid paying tax and we have to make up the difference
The £70bn the economy loses from shady offshore accounting equates to about £2.3k per PAYE tax payer.
It's not morally right for anyone to avoid/evade tax. But making the masses cough up the difference is sick.
(DraconacticusReject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 10:14,
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That 23 Trillion dollar figure was for the planet right? Not just the U.K.
And if this is a Tory plot then it's going to backfire. How much you want to bet that cash paid AuPairs working for M.Ps are not going to be lining up outside max cliffords house this morning?
(CerebusSticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 9:16,
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that's not the issue,
it's about people not registering the transaction with the tax man
(HappyToastGroat froth, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 10:59,
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That's not
the payer's responsibility.
(byebye, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 11:06,
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I didn't say it was
(HappyToastGroat froth, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 11:10,
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Ok,
I missed the "in the hope of avoiding tax.", just read the headline ;p
(byebye, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 11:19,
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If you're offered more than a tenner off "for cash" you can be fairly certain the V.A.T is being skipped.
(CerebusSticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 12:16,
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Erm...
Surely it's the tradesman being "morally wrong" by not correctly declaring their earnings ?
I would rather accept cash than, say Debit or Credit card which incurs a 5%+ charge. Or a cheque, which you can't guarantee with a card for small amounts anymore - and so need to guarantee via transax which costs. As does paying it in. Bank transfer is preferable, but even costs money for business accounts *IF* you can get the elderly couple who's guttering you just fixed to pay that way.
Fucking hypercritical cunt MP's. How many income taxes of the average tradesman tax dodger would the Amazon or Vodaphone corporation tax bill cover ? You cunts.
Obviously, IF the tradesman says "pay me cash to dodge income earnings" then you might think twice
(zacherynuk@echo off, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 9:04,
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The minute they sort out large-scale tax avoidance
by companies is the minute I'll get excited about whether my plumber pays tax on the fifty quid he took to unblock my drain.
(wheresthefishPartly filled with wrong, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 9:49,
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50 quid?
Polish?
(slartifartfastWhen all around are losing their heads, duck., Tue 24 Jul 2012, 9:53,
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Why would you want to polish a drain?
It wouldn't stay shiny for long.
(DraconacticusReject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 10:02,
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Badumtish
(slartifartfastWhen all around are losing their heads, duck., Tue 24 Jul 2012, 14:20,
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^ this every day of the fucking week
(prodigy69broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 10:06,
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Blimey, what on earth are you flushing?
(CerebusSticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 10:30,
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opinion > arsehole
(prodigy69broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 13:50,
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This
oh goodness me yes.
(StonkwoodPipes made me do it, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 11:04,
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The minute they sort out genocide
i'm going to stop kicking people in the nuts.
A little "Reductio ad absurdum" but couldn't resist
(CerebusSticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 12:30,
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