OMG
Who shoots kids, let alone ones with limbs missing.
/tooSoon
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retrofly How about a link to a picture of something funny.., Sun 16 Dec 2012, 13:21,
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I'm baffled by the mindset that thinks that the solution is more guns.
Quite aside from the dearth of evidence that an armed bystander would make any difference at all, the idea that having more confused, scared people with guns would make anyone safer is... um... perplexing.
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Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 13:23,
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it's the threat of guns that is the deterent
if a crazed gunman is stood in a shopping centre, shooting randomly at screaming buystanders, simply walking up to him with a gun is enough to make him put the gun down, apologise for what he has done and ask Jebas for forgiveness.
Science fact from Page 36 of the NRA bible
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HappyToast Groat froth, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 13:27,
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For half a second there,
I thought you might have been serious. Then I saw the final line...
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Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 13:29,
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What chilled me to the bone last night
is when I posted that^ exact comment somewhere on Facebook last night, some stranger messaged me questioning whether or not I was being serious
You couldn't make it up
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Jahled Three shades of black, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 13:37,
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The only solution is to remove ALL guns.
This is impossible, they need to come at the from a different angle because millions of guns are never going to just "dissapear".
what about prevention, what causes people to go on a killing spree?
Is it the glamour of going out with a bang?
Is it the kill count?
Why so much hate? Why innocent people?
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retrofly How about a link to a picture of something funny.., Sun 16 Dec 2012, 13:30,
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desperation to be famous and not another nobody in amongst 8 billion other nobodies
it's very quick and remarkably easy to do it, as the media keeps advertising
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HappyToast Groat froth, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 13:34,
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So the media needs to change?
Put a law in so that any killing sprees have to be reported in the minimal way. Put down some really speific guidleines, get phychaitrists involved and sort it out.
If it stops even 1 spree its worth it.
Plus it'll get a lot more shit off tv.
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retrofly How about a link to a picture of something funny.., Sun 16 Dec 2012, 13:40,
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you mean repress the media? that's an attack on freedom of speech, are you a commie or something?!
Right minded people have been demanding this for decades, but it doesn't work because the not right minded people want to hear this shit.
Shock and Horror sells papers/airtime/online advertising better than pictures of kittens.
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HappyToast Groat froth, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 13:43,
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What about forcing the media to get together to write up their own code on this scenario?
Surely its less "Commie" than banning all guns, ZOMG!
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retrofly How about a link to a picture of something funny.., Sun 16 Dec 2012, 13:48,
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the media will always do anything to sell more than their competitors
you have to change what the consumers want first
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HappyToast Groat froth, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 13:51,
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Well that settles it
Nuke the US from space.
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retrofly How about a link to a picture of something funny.., Sun 16 Dec 2012, 14:10,
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thanks for the heads up.
i will start putting things in order then. twas nice knowing ya'll.
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miss fortunate last posted ages ago, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 16:19,
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I think
it is probably more a desire to show that you have some power over a society you feel rejected by and powerless in, rather than just wanting to be famous (which seems a more trivial thing to someone's mental well-being).
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monkeon schmonkeon, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 15:07,
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his motivation is irrelevant. He was mentally ill, his mother had automatic weapons in the house.
If America wants fewer of these incidents it has a choice. Either try to reduce the number of mentally ill people or the number of automatic weapons.
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America seems to have a
real fuck the poor / mentally ill attitude, presumably the flip side of the american dream where people deny that luck plays any part in someone's social situation.
I'd put most of the blame on that.
Removing guns may remove ability to do a crime, but it doesn't remove the desire (or, in some cases, need to do crime to survive).
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monkeon schmonkeon, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 14:55,
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I want teachers to be armed in the US
Just so I can sit back and sob "I told you so" when it all goes tits up.
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retrofly How about a link to a picture of something funny.., Sun 16 Dec 2012, 13:41,
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Collateral damage, innit?
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Fadgebadger Sweaty sumo wanks for everyone!, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 13:43,
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Frankly, I don't care about US.
What is interesting, is that over-armed population living in practically war zone, still yields less school killings.
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omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 13:44,
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Circumstance is an amazing thing
when your daily routine involves fighting for survival you value those bullets and know how best to use them compared to a comfortably rich nobody who has no understanding of their place in the world who is bombarded by some really shit media that his slightly broken brain can't process.
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HappyToast Groat froth, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 13:46,
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I think we just have
agreed that all Americans should be cornered to work in labour
camps for master race, didn't we?
Alternatively, you just have said that guns are not really
root of a problem.
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omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 13:59,
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Apple were talking about setting up some US based factories so maybe it'll happen sooner than you think
(although I'm pretty sure these will be completely automated factories to undercut their overseas manufacture costs)
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HappyToast Groat froth, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 14:03,
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Exactly this^^^
If the problem's "guns", then the solution is never going to be "more guns".
That I've seen that suggested (a couple of times) here on /links in the last few days depresses me...
[edit] As you've got him on ignore, you'll have missed Coxxy's take on this. Consider yourself extremely lucky.
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Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 13:53,
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If Only
the killer hadn't been armed. Didn't have easy access to guns. What then? Ah! A knife! - A day or so before this atrocity some guy attacked a school in China. Stabbed/slashed 22 kids. Deaths? - Zero.
Guns don't kill people - people do. Guns just make it a hell of a lot easier.
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Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 13:27,
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and they've all got awesome scars now to impress people with for the rest of their lives
it's win-win
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HappyToast Groat froth, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 13:28,
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...
From Jezebel a couple of days ago:
"Fuck you, people who say, "guns don't kill people, people kill people." Sorry, assholes, this isn't the time for semantics. Guns are the tools that enable people who kill people to kill lots and lots of people with ease. And they're fucking efficient."
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Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Sun 16 Dec 2012, 13:30,
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