Such a well systematised delusion, he's rejecting his own data, after explaining how precise/accurate/repeatable it is.
How do they deal with the cognitive dissonance?
I need to read more.
(, Wed 25 Aug 2021, 1:17, Reply)
I don't really see how believing the earth is flat is any more deluded than believing there's an invisible sky wizard that created it all.
(, Wed 25 Aug 2021, 5:59, Reply)
There is no testable evidence for any of the thousands of deities or religions.
(, Wed 25 Aug 2021, 13:25, Reply)
Have you?!
(, Wed 25 Aug 2021, 14:38, Reply)
Then there's the ludicrous claims, like talking snakes.
And isn't it funny how they believe in some all seeing, all knowing entity that has the entire universe planned out, but if you talk long and hard with it, it'll change its mind. It's just as deluded as flat earth.
(, Wed 25 Aug 2021, 14:53, Reply)
But believing in something beyond the knowable universe is nowhere near as deluded as disbelieving something that's visibly obvious and proven in this life.
I don't believe in a deity or afterlife, I don't care if others do if they largely keep it to a faith in things beyond what we can test. (and of course, don't push it onto me)
(, Wed 25 Aug 2021, 15:18, Reply)
that's believing in 'heavenly energy' just like that crack pot in the video.
Flat earth, chemtrails, moonlanding deniers antivaxers, they might be a bit more off the scale of delusion than religion, but in general they're a lot less harmfull.
(, Wed 25 Aug 2021, 21:08, Reply)
All those bad ideas you listed are gateways to deeper levels of radicalisation, how many American mass murderers have been into conspiracy shit? Anti-vaxers' ignorance kills too.
Britain First, PrisonPlanet/Infowars, these people don't tend to offset their malevolence with jumble sales and food-banks either.
(, Wed 25 Aug 2021, 21:58, Reply)
(, Wed 25 Aug 2021, 18:13, Reply)
but I've assumed they were disingenuous, being deliberately contrarian in the hope of it getting them some attention
(, Wed 25 Aug 2021, 7:39, Reply)
But others, such as the idiot who killed himself in a homemade rocket, are clearly True Believers, and no amount of persuasion or proof to the contrary will budge them.
(, Wed 25 Aug 2021, 9:12, Reply)
Like these fuckwits headed by this apparent pillar of the community.
(, Wed 25 Aug 2021, 10:37, Reply)
The voice of experience there.
(, Wed 25 Aug 2021, 10:45, Reply)
If he wants flat earth to be taken seriously, he should pretend that “flat” refers not to a physical attribute describing lack of curvature, but refers to a given person’s innate sense of how they perceive the shape of the world, which may or may not align with the widespread usage of the term “flat”, which was only ever a socially constructed category anyway.
After all, “flat” has lots of meanings, one of which is “a place to live”. Is the Earth a place we live? It seems that those denying the earth is “flat” don’t think we live here, the fools!
Works very well for other reality denialists
(, Wed 25 Aug 2021, 8:58, Reply)
That revels in the attention being a knob gets him.
(, Wed 25 Aug 2021, 17:52, Reply)
Don't forget to announce in your opening salvo that you consider the opposing position to be evil, not like anti-Semitism or white supremacy, but you know. Like them. That always helps get people on your side.
(, Wed 25 Aug 2021, 18:42, Reply)
He gets angry when you offer evidence that contradicts his wrong beliefs on the flatness of our planet, the fakeness of the moon landings, the existence of god, the existence of aliens, and the benefits of Brexit.
He's a control freak and prone to delusions involving paranoid conspiracy theory. I don't think he does it for attention as such, I just think he's a thicko.
(, Wed 25 Aug 2021, 19:00, Reply)
I absolutely believe that the Moon landing took place, but it's at least somewhat plausible as far as conspiracy theories go. The USA absolutely had motive to fake it if the mission was unsuccessful, and 2001 more than demonstrated that we could reasonably fabricate the footage especially considering there was an unlimited budget.
Obviously, the human factor is what makes the whole thing complete bobbins. There's no way that absolutely everyone involved in faking it would have kept quiet for the last 50-odd years. Total fucking impossibility. But it still holds a fuckload more water than Flat Earth and the 5G Covid bollocks.
(, Wed 25 Aug 2021, 19:36, Reply)
is that when the big rockets launched, they didn't go up to space, they flew sideways.
When I explained how orbits work he got frustrated and claimed the world is flat and the edge is to be found at Antarctica, where the nations of the Earth patrol with fleets of warships to prevent people going there and learning the truth (that there's a big wall that stops all the oceans and atmosphere falling off the edge).
When I explained that there are research stations there, that passenger planes fly over Antarctica, that you can buy an Antarctic cruise and sail around the whole thing, and that nobody ever reports anything of the sort, he moved on to aliens or whatever.
It's just endless bullshit. Save your sympathy for those who didn't opt into demonstrable stupidity, I say.
(, Wed 25 Aug 2021, 21:36, Reply)
And even if you say you have, you might just be one of them.
(, Wed 25 Aug 2021, 21:44, Reply)