How pleased must they have been to find the tattered flag at the start.
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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Fri 22 Jan 2021, 11:55,
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I like to think the cunt in the video put that up the day after the referendum
Every day another fragment flutters to his feet as the cold reality of what he's done becomes clearer and clearer
(, Fri 22 Jan 2021, 12:17, Share, Reply)
Brexit:
A mechanism whereby the very rich keep control of the very poor, and make more people very poor whilst at the same time making the rich even more rich, and fool the poor into thinking it was their idea.
It was always going to fail, we said so before the vote, we will continue to say so.
Personally, I would like to be proven wrong, for the country to go from strength to strength because of our new independence, for the Tories to make Brexit win, instead of *just* getting it done. But that won't happen.
My marker for when something is a bad idea for the majority of people in this country is to see if it is something Rees-Mogg is in favour of.
If he wants it, it is bad for us.
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Fri 22 Jan 2021, 13:35,
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An old and familiar pattern.
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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Fri 22 Jan 2021, 14:30,
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It's too early to tell what will happen
My guess is that it will settle down into a new normal, as things always do. I'm old enough to have lived through many changes in Europe and things just adapt to the new situation. Some win, some lose. It's the same when a new company enters the market and fucks over all the old businesses, like Amazon did. You can complain or change.
Brexit has affected me too, but it won't be reversed, so why spend my life whining about people who voted for it.
The danger is that anger over Brexit dominates your life. It's like being a ex-husband who just won't ever let go and wants things back to how they were. They never will be. Move on, or you just end up miserable.
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It won't be reversed? I dunno about that. Article 50 has a very clear and specifically-worded clause for re-entry, and many eyes are on that prize. When you consider the numbers, however you slice it, brexit was not a majority 'vote'*, its zealots are dying out in droves due to age and corona, to be replaced with (generally) savvier more progressive younger voters, who are not voting Tory - and certainly not whatever the present equivalent of UKIP is. As it's become clear, brexit was a lame-duck vanity project which has already fallen on its arse to most people's thunderous lack of surprise, and its reversal is all but inevitable - it's a matter of when, and under who's directive, not if.
As for 'whining', whatever you call it, my view is that it is important that those who were seduced into voting* for this train wreck are made aware of the very real consequences of their actions, to reckon with the likelihood that their choice was motivated by insidious xenophobia at best and downright racism at worst - whatever the thin fig leaf du jour is, the 'sovereignty' fallacy, etc. To reckon with the fact that they are complicit in that and the UK's tarnished global reputation. As 'Project Fear'/Reality has been made very apparent for at least 5 years, the brexiteer gullibility cannot be a blameless accident, but a choice. Mockery at least introduces the notion that perhaps they were wrong, and that a narrowly-successful vote* does not mean infallibility.
* not a vote, a poll - subtle but important difference.
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"why spend your life whining about the people who voted for it"
Stab in the dark here but I'm guessing you're one of those who voted for it and you'd rather everyone stopped laughing at you
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Fadgebadger (1 like), Fri 22 Jan 2021, 13:36,
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Indeed
Personally, I reserve the largest guffaw for the people who live in Spain and voted for Brexit, because they now will have the choice of moving back to the UK or staying in Spain and giving up their UK passport (and learning Spanish).
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Fri 22 Jan 2021, 13:39,
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They don't need to learn Spanish
They just have to shout louder.
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You would think that from how they act
Although I am not sure if that will help them in their interview for residency.
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Fri 22 Jan 2021, 18:19,
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Do we really want people that deluded back?
Patriots who don't want to live here?!
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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Fri 22 Jan 2021, 14:25,
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social hand grenade I was a lurker before you were a lurker, Fri 22 Jan 2021, 15:28,
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All the best patriots all live abroad.
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brb shitting dahlias, Sat 23 Jan 2021, 16:07,
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a lot of people simply wont be able to admit that they voted for it in a few years time I reckon
Imagine having the 'what did you vote in the referendum?" conversation with a kid who's just become aware of what happened and what it means for their life chances. It's going to become a secret shame
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Probably the first time I've ever agreed with you!
Nobody did the blame analysis prior to casting their vote. The way I see it, there were 2 choices with 6 possible outcomes, but only 1 choice had any risk of blame.
One votes against Brexit, Brexit loses and that's the end of it.
One votes against Brexit, Brexit wins and it turns out terrible... not your fault.
One votes against Brexit, Brexit wins and it turns out to be great... no harm, no foul.
One votes for Brexit, Brexit loses and that's the end of it.
One votes for Brexit, Brexit wins and it turns out great... no problem, no blame.
And finally,
One votes for Brexit, Brexit wins and it turns out terrible... one now has some explaining to do.
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Can a true believer in Brexit use that kind of reason and self reflection?
Brexit Britain is something of a consequence-free parallel reality, as far as I can tell.
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brb shitting dahlias, Sat 23 Jan 2021, 17:23,
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One by one, idiots are realising how stupid they've been.
While in their thousands, older idiots who just hated foreigners are dying of coronavirus.
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brb shitting dahlias, Fri 22 Jan 2021, 14:12,
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they will all of course continue to vote tory until the sun expands and engulfs the planet
(, Fri 22 Jan 2021, 14:38, Share, Reply)