well this is annoying
Both equally to blame it seems, but the cyclist didn't put in a counter claim, the fool, so now he's liable to meet all the costs of the case at 100k
As a cyclist I've never run over any pedestrian, I've come close on a couple occasions but never been in any danger of hitting anyone. And I commuted in rush hour in central london for years and years.
Thing is with cycling you really have to expect pedestrians to do dumb things and you actively look out for it. This is why I avoid trouble.
Feel sorry for the guy and hope the yoga lady meets some of the costs (which I doubt, why should she?)
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Cyclist who knocked over woman on phone must pay up to £100,000
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Man claims case in which both found equally to blame may set alarming precedent
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colmcq2, Fri 21 Jun 2019, 13:23,
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to add: I guess he could file a civil case now? Any lawyers out there?
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colmcq2, Fri 21 Jun 2019, 13:24,
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Terrible headline; "up to £100,000" could be anything. Could be a fiver. I wonder where they got that figure from.
Hazledean's press release says, "Covering the costs and the compensation is going to exceed £20,000".[1] - as reported by the Metro. The judge apparently said £10,000.[2]. Still a lot, but more credible. The skeptic in me wonders if the inflated figure is a way to gain more from the crowdfunding of the amount.
What he has been ordered to pay is £4,161.79 in damages. I don't know the case details, but that does not seem unreasonable for knocking someone over, causing a facial scar, if it was demonstrated that he was responsible.
If he believes that he suffered damages that she was responsible for, he could take her to court over that, sure - but that's a totally separate issue.
Costs incurred through defence are a complicated issue. To be frank, he should've just admitted he knocked her over and paid a few grand compo. I'm basing that on the finding from the case that they "were equally culpable in this accident". He chose to contest his own responsibility in the matter, and was shown to be incorrect. His choice incurred costs, which someone has to pay.
Edit: Ah, "Ms Brushett has sought almost £100,000 in costs". Frankly, that means jack shit. You start negotiations with an arbritrarily high number, in the hope of a better (realistic) settlement. ("This bloke won't haggle!").
He'll probably end up paying 15-20K, or something like that. The crowdfunder has already raised over £12k.
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You don't seem to have realised that you were reading a Guardian article.
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quite a good argument for there being bike insurance for anyone riding on the roads
(which is also a terrible thing)
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HappyToast Groat froth, Fri 21 Jun 2019, 14:11,
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I had to use mine once, very glad of it, wouldn't have wanted to fight her insurer on my own
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"was told to also pay the legal costs of the two-day case, estimated to be as much as £100,000."
the real crime is the legal costs, I'd love to see the breakdown of that invoice
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I know, who had the expensive lawyers? It's insane.
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colmcq2, Fri 21 Jun 2019, 14:21,
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She's blundered into moving traffic and therefore she's to blame
This isn't like that tit with no brakes going 30mph.
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Based on what?
Have you seen video of the incident or something?
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Nothing to add. Completely agree.
I will however add that Yoga lady sounds like an unbearable megacunt.
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Deffo this
Would it be the same if a car had hit her? Walking out into a road blindly staring at her mobile while the lights for traffic was green. "No but it's me and I am important and did nothing wrong."
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spazzcaptain Misses Valin @, Fri 21 Jun 2019, 21:48,
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Would be slightly different
...in that the car driver's insurance company would probably have had their own lawyers involved. Who would have said "You have no chance at all. Pay up."
If you hit someone in your car, it's pretty much 100% your fault. You're supposed to be aware of the potential that someone might cross the road, and allow yourself adequate time to brake or otherwise avoid the hazard.
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Just ride off if you hit someone.
Admittedly might be a bit harder if you're knocked out, but I'd say that a potential £100k hit in the pocket is a good advert for wearing a helmet and zooming off as soon as you do something bad.
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I'm struggling to equate "calm and reasonable road user" with cycling into a pedestrian hard enough to knock both of you out.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Sat 22 Jun 2019, 15:50,
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I don’t think he aimed at her
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sat 22 Jun 2019, 19:30,
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