dalziel and pascoe
"oh, it's pronounced dee ell" is it? really? then why, when d and l are the first and last letters of the word, are there another FIVE FUCKING LETTERS in there? if it's pronounced dee ell, then it doesn't need them.
it certainly doesn't need a fucking z in the middle of it!
( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Thu 8 Apr 2010, 22:36, 17 replies)

I'm almost to scared to ask

But how do you say it?
( Herb Alpert's Taxi Driver I have very beautiful lips, Thu 8 Apr 2010, 22:39, closed)

i don't
seriously, it annoys me to such a degree that i avoid the word altogether. i saw it being advertised on telly and heard the voice-over guy saying "dee ell and pascoe". i just thought dee ell? what the fuck?
( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Thu 8 Apr 2010, 22:44, closed)

Amen to that,
also Ming campell........it is not fucking menzies campell or whatever you claim, its ming, as in merciless. twat.
(Obi wanker nobi Its not a bug, its an unexpected feature, Thu 8 Apr 2010, 23:02, closed)

and yet again, a z in the middle
i'm starting to think it's a conspiracy
( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Thu 8 Apr 2010, 23:09, closed)

It's not a z
It's some obscure Scottish letter not in the Romanised alphabet.

and

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalziel
( sandettie light vessel automatic New Twitter - @bollocksreally, Thu 8 Apr 2010, 23:51, closed)

thanks for that
it's always interesting to learn something new.
unfortunately, i still feel unreaonably annoyed by what i can't help but see as redundant letters in the name.
( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Thu 8 Apr 2010, 23:59, closed)

Peugeot
and "Wymyjydyck" is the correct spelling of Wick
( sandettie light vessel automatic New Twitter - @bollocksreally, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 0:12, closed)

my brain is now leaking out of my ears
;)
( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 0:16, closed)

You fucktwat
Dalziel and Menzies are Scottish names and are from the Gaelic. They are pronounced differently as a result. Because they are from a different language to English. You ignorant fuckwit.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 8 Apr 2010, 23:11, closed)

i know they're pronounced differently, cuntsausage
i have no problem with that. my problem is the extra letters that the names clearly don't need
( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Thu 8 Apr 2010, 23:15, closed)

PlumDozer
Clearly they are pronounced differently. That's why I asked Smash.

Same with a lot of names. Like St.John being said like Sinjun.
( Herb Alpert's Taxi Driver I have very beautiful lips, Thu 8 Apr 2010, 23:25, closed)

the first time i saw it written down
i thought it was pronounced the same way as it was spelled. i'm sure many other people did, too
( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Thu 8 Apr 2010, 23:28, closed)

Cuntsausage
:D
( Bob Todd whee, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 0:02, closed)

i rather like that one myself :)

( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 0:07, closed)

fill yer boots:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_names_in_English_with_counterintuitive_pronunciations
( Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 10:14, closed)

They are different languages
and use different orthographies because they have different phonologies and different phonotactics (and histories, conventions, traditions and customs).

They might use the same (or similar) symbols, but the symbols have different meanings.

As an aside. English has about a dozen vowel sounds plus about 6 diphthongs, and 24ish consonants (varies a little due to dialects, and how generous you're feeling). However, we only have 26 letters. So we have rules like digraphs (two letters, one sound) such as the ou in sound or the th in the or the ow in tow, and thing like adding an e like in like or in came, to change vowel sounds.

However, a nice simpler language like Italian has about 7 vowels, a couple of diphthongs, and about 15 consonants. They use the same alphabet as English (but only use 21 letters and the other 5 just in foreign loan words). So fewer sounds, but about the same number of letters. So they have different rules. An English word pronounced using Italian rules sounds different. Come would sound something like comma. And vice versa, bruschetta is pronounced in Italian as something like broosketta, since u represents always the sound of u in (roughly) rule, and ch is always pronounced /k/.

It has been theorised that (vulgar) latin only had 5 vowels (with length distinctions), hence the 5 vowels in our (latin) alphabet...
( Sextant goes to him is emotionally erect, on this day, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 13:54, closed)

this proves
that language is a strange thing
( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Fri 9 Apr 2010, 16:15, closed)