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Overheard the other day: "I've told you before - stop swearing in front of the kids, for fuck's sake." Your tales of double standards please.

(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 12:21)
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Now before anyone (who doesn't deserve it) gets all offended, I'm not talking about genuine vegetarians who don't eat meat for moral reasons. Their choice, not mine etc. I'm talking about the people who say 'I'm a vegetarian, except for...' and then end the sentence with an animal.

Fish, tuna, chicken for example. THEN YOU'RE NOT A VEGETARIAN FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!!! The whole point of being a vegetarian is that you don't eat any kind of animal!! They say it doesn't count, or they have an exception to their vegetarianism because 'they like the taste of chicken.' (actual quote) NO, NO, NO!!!!!

If you don't want to eat meat fine but I happen to like it.

To summarise:

I may have to:
a) punch something/someone.
b) lie down.
c) go get a bucket of KFC and gorge on the meaty goodness.

What should I do? All three?

For the record Bambi's mum was delicious. As was Sebastian.
(, Sat 21 Feb 2009, 20:10, 11 replies)
Since Sebastian
has a Jamaican accent, would it be appropriate to cook him in some sort of creamy wine sauce? Surely some sort of jerk sauce?
(, Sat 21 Feb 2009, 20:52, closed)
I agree
particularly as chicken has no taste other than the way it has been cooked. And they are cuter and fluffier than tuna, which have teeth.

Although saying that, I would rather suffer an 'eating chickens' death than an 'eating fishes' death.

That's something you can tell your vege yet fish eating friends! At least an 'eating chicken's' death is by beheading. Not by a gaff being stuck through your lungs (gills) and then left to suffocate on a bed of ice.

Can fish suffer hypothermia though...?
(, Sat 21 Feb 2009, 21:06, closed)
Come on!
How would you ask them to describe their diet then? Have you ever tried saying "I'm a pescaterian"? Nobody would know what you were talking about. Also why are they 'pretentious'? There are so many valid things to be angry about in this world but this isn't one of them. Get a fucking grip.
(I also eat meat, by the way)
(, Sat 21 Feb 2009, 21:25, closed)
can describe their diet any way they want to, but they're not vegetarian.
Perhaps the pretentious was a bit ott. It's just that some people call themselves vegetarian as a status symbol. A reason they think they're better than others. They're the pretentious ones. (v v small minority)
(, Sat 21 Feb 2009, 22:20, closed)
Though I'm a known dog-eater my family are vegerarian,
I suppose my mother would be a pescatarian technically, but she never makes a fuss about it. She'll cook me meat but there isn't generally any in the house when I go round and I'm not fussed.
I'm always hearing about these arrogant preachy vegetarians but I've never actually met one.
Just let people eat what they choose, that seems like the basis for reason on this topic.
(, Sat 21 Feb 2009, 22:33, closed)
It's not necessarily hypocritical
My personal position is that I mistrust modern farming and avoid farmed meats. I'll eat sea fish and game, and will eat other meat if I know its provenance, but mostly I eat vegetarian food, and for simplicity I say I'm a vegetarian. I don't have any moral objection to eating meat per se, and I'm pragmatic enough about it to not get too insistent if I'm somewhere like the Czech Republic, my current location, where vegetarianism means fried cheese if you're lucky, and where my vegan grandmother was once told 'it's not meat, it's sausage'.

Other perfectly valid moral stances include avoiding meat according to how intelligent the animal is (and thus how much it can be said to suffer). I know someone that will eat any meat except pork, squid and octopus by this principle. You nay not agree, but you can't deny it's consistent.
(, Sat 21 Feb 2009, 21:46, closed)
I used to live in the Czech Republic, and had a vegetarian girlfriend there.
I used to eat tlacenka with vinegar and onions in front of her. She was always very understanding.
If you're in Prague there's a decent veggie restaurant called Radost. Or you could just stick to the fried cheese, that stuff is worse than crack.
(, Sat 21 Feb 2009, 22:01, closed)
I've heard of this stance and agree that consistency is the key. level of cruelty, intelligence etc. that's all opinion. each to his own.

The problem I have is that you're not a vegetarian. If you don't want to have to explain your personal choice on which foods you feel are morally acceptable then why say anything?
(, Sat 21 Feb 2009, 22:29, closed)
I don't want to get into some big moral discussion every time I want to go round to a friend's for a meal or travel on a plane. Everyone knows what a vegetarian is, but there isn't a word for my particular position, so why, er, make such a meal out of it?
(, Sat 21 Feb 2009, 23:09, closed)
Being a particular fan of pork (bacon), squid (calamari) and octopus (particularly the baby octopus in bbq/tomato/brine sauce you can buy in tins in Spain), could you get some further explanation of this from the person. Especially as pigs are considered one of the brainiest farm animals! And come to think of it, aren't Octopus considered considered very clever as well, on the same level as squirrels?

Ask them if they'd eat a squirrel?!

*Edit. You said "will eat...Except". I take it all back. I am the IQ eater.
(, Sat 21 Feb 2009, 23:42, closed)
Its not meat its sausage
Is technically correct.

Well its not meat that you would recognise
(, Tue 24 Feb 2009, 21:55, closed)

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