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When I worked as a window cleaner, everybody - and I mean everybody - I knew asked me the "how's yer father" question. The truth was that I was always knackered and freezing, and the only nudity I saw was some fat bloke's arse. Tell us how your work differs from the expectation.

Thanks to Rotating Wobbly Hat for the idea

(, Thu 8 May 2014, 22:21)
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Life as a Landlord
Expectation: make a few phone calls, reply to a few emails, sign a couple of forms, work my own hours, work comfortably from anywhere in the world, pay small amounts to various Eastern Europeans to deal with any manual labour that may crop up, watch the money roll in.

Reality: as above.
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 11:45, 40 replies)

money rolls.

a role is something actors play. like, for example, pretending to be a landlord.
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 11:52, closed)

Corrected accordingly.
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 11:56, closed)
well, now my post just looks foolish
you dreadful human being
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 12:11, closed)
Their their, we still no you mad him luck foolish.

(, Fri 9 May 2014, 12:16, closed)
^agent of capitalist oppression^
agent of capitalist oppression fantasist
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 12:02, closed)
Fancy a coffee?

(, Fri 9 May 2014, 12:12, closed)
You can afford coffee!

(, Fri 9 May 2014, 12:17, closed)
He doesn't need money, he gets his coffee from the future.
Why pay money for something that doesn't exist?

Having raised that question, our resident food trader can probably supply me with an answer.
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 13:14, closed)
...yet the new stamp duty rules are going to affect you

(, Fri 9 May 2014, 12:22, closed)
Unfortunately, yes - as some properties remain un-tenanted.

(, Fri 9 May 2014, 12:26, closed)
your investment strategy is a work of genius

(, Fri 9 May 2014, 12:30, closed)
Why, thank you.
The rate of appreciation is some parts has proved higher than any gains that could be made by short-term lets. As the mortgage is virtually non-existent, there is no relief to off-set against payments - so rather than pay 40% on sporadic rental income, I'll take the stamp duty any day.
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 12:35, closed)
so thick

(, Fri 9 May 2014, 12:39, closed)
No, you moron. I said THIN crust.
Jesus, owns a pizza oven and can't even get my order right.
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 12:41, closed)
your googling is impressive
Seeing as last time you were pulled up on this you had no idea about any of it.
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 12:39, closed)
...but with short term lets you benefit from capital appreciation plus rental income.
A property standing empty generates no income to pay for the associated costs.

Christ, you're thicker than even Shambo imagined.
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 12:41, closed)
In most cases, yes.
But locating tenants, paying agencies, repairing tenant-related dilapidation etc all adds up. It is far easier, in certain locations, to leave the property pristine and empty, allowing buyers to visit at any time without tenant interference. Which of course allows for a far quicker sale, without the hassle of waiting for tenancies to expire.

In the very short term, an empty property costs far less to run than a tenanted one. And in certain postcodes, the appreciation has provided a far simpler and more immediate source of income.

However, down in Abbey Wood, where I've picked up sitting tenants in two terraced houses, I hope they (or any future tenants) continue to keep those properties rented until crossrail completes in 2018. Renting is great for that part of the world, suicide in NW3.
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 12:58, closed)
so very very thick

(, Fri 9 May 2014, 12:59, closed)
Hello? Hello?
Where's my fucking pizza?
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 13:08, closed)
appreciation in an illiquid investment is not income

(, Fri 9 May 2014, 12:59, closed)
Of course.
So sell it and it becomes liquid. I've bought and sold within eight months and seen appreciation of over 15%. Why did I sell? The offer was too good to turn down and I needed capital.
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 13:02, closed)
thicker than boiled mince set in blancmange

(, Fri 9 May 2014, 13:30, closed)

What's it like owning a pizza oven?

Do you flyer the local area under-cutting Dominoes? How long does it take to get the temperature right? Do you make your own dough? What, in your opinion is the best combination of toppings?

I'll happily advise you on maintaining and growing a property portfolio - but it would be decent of you to give me the heads up on how best to own and operate a pizza oven in return.

I'm genuinely intrigued. Do you have to wear a silly hat and apron when operating it? Is it safe to operate if children are present? How hot does it actually get?

Pizzas are great maybe once a month, do you find yourself eating far more pizzas to justify the investment? How big an area does it take up? Is yours wood-fired, or are there other fuels that can be used? How many pizzas can you cook at once? What's the biggest pizza you've ever made? Any pizza-related disasters you can tell us about?
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 13:44, closed)
calm down, povvo

(, Fri 9 May 2014, 13:52, closed)
I know!
I'm almost as excited as you are about my property portfolio!
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 13:55, closed)
we're not going to indulge the poor cunt in this fantasy _again_ are we?
he'll wank himself raw and his mum will have to do an emergency wash for his spiderman duvet cover
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 12:30, closed)
earning pitiful yields on interest only properties subject to heavy stamp duty on liquidation is infinitely preferable to the 15% plus returns available from retail investment funds.
Clearly.
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 12:33, closed)
yeah ... but if he changes his fantasy investment portfolio now
he'll have to do another google search and the poor fuck has pretty weak comprehension skills ... it'll take him all week to cobble together a new set of incoherent lies
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 12:37, closed)
^puts me on ignore, then wets himself in excitement to reply^

(, Fri 9 May 2014, 13:13, closed)

as above still live with my mum and play out a fantasy life that manages to be both incredibly mediocre and childishly infeasible.
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 12:26, closed)

I've tended to set my life-goals slightly higher than owning a pizza oven.

But well done on your over-achievement. What next, indoor plumbing?
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 12:31, closed)
hey ... I'm not mocking your dreams, pet
I'm just mocking the fact that you prefer to fantasise about them on a dying messageboard rather than make any effort to actually achieve them
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 12:34, closed)

I'll have a thin-crust pepperoni please, do you have any artichoke hearts?
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 12:40, closed)
the fact you specify a thin-crust sums you up rather well.

(, Fri 9 May 2014, 16:24, closed)
Cutting down on the carbs, innit.

(, Fri 9 May 2014, 16:31, closed)
The fact you say you are cutting down on the carbs rather states that you are one of those who
orders a THICK base, how gauche.
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 17:31, closed)

Proper pizza has no 'thick' or 'thin' base - it's just a pizza. If you try ordering anywhere else other than Pizza Hut, you'll not find that choice on the menu.

But having looked at the embarrassments Dr. S creates with his £1,000 pizza oven, I'm asking for thin crusts. The less of that I have to eat, the better.
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 17:36, closed)
Shittesst trying to get out of it ever. I would prefer to be gauche than come up with that cum stain
of an explanation.
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 21:00, closed)
he'll soon google and backtrack

(, Fri 9 May 2014, 17:42, closed)
harsh
it's not his fault his mum can only afford Iceland Made in Germany specials.
(, Fri 9 May 2014, 16:32, closed)

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