Rswipe's ideas are good
Rather than makeup just buy the small things that you know she does use though. Chocolates, minature bottles of drink, and well worth going to places like the gadget shop (I know that has shut down but there are several equivalants whose names don't come to mind) and buying some of the small quite clever items from there.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:16, 1 reply, 15 years ago)

one thing she has said is that she'd like to get better at doing eye makeup
any idea how I can help her do that?
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:17, Reply)

Blind her,
then tell her she's done it perfectly every time, regardless of how much she's made herself look like a clown.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:20, Reply)

I think I need you and TGB as my personal advisors

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:21, Reply)

Oh god, TEAM AWESOME Life Coaching.
We'll make a fortune.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:28, Reply)

I've already made the business cards

( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:55, Reply)

You can buy ready put together eye makeup kits
the one at Benefit is lovely, but might be a bit over budget- it's £18 I think
(So you can see the sort of thing I mean)

little set
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:22, Reply)

looks good, cheers

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:30, Reply)

benefit stuff is awesome
also you can buy lots of good designer makeup like that for peanuts on ebay from distributors/disgruntled staff who have clearly nicked it and are flogging it. just make sure it's BNIB or similar, you know how fussy i am, the thought of buying second-hand make-up even for oneself is WRONG!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:35, Reply)

^this is a 150% true
it's easy to spot the fakes, but you can easily get it for half the price if you use ebay wisely, and a good brand is essential
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:37, Reply)

I'm good at ebay
so if I get pointed towards the products I should be looking for then I can probably manage that.

I appreciate your help greatly
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:38, Reply)

I can gaz you the stuff I use
for especially sensitive skin if you want
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:43, Reply)

that would be really good
thanks
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:47, Reply)

done!

( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:45, Reply)

this probably calls for a high five
and some tears on my part how my degree is useless
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:46, Reply)

my degree is useless too, don't worry
it's the office experience you stuff in every holiday you can and the law conversion/medical conversion/accountancy exams you do afterwards that make you employable

this being said, you do need a 2:1 or a first, even from oxbridge, if you want to get into a city firm. so many applicants that anyone with a 2:2 will be straight in the recycling tray, sadly.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:50, Reply)

easy and free!
parade her around any of the big shops like selfridges, harvey nicks, a massive boots. any of the benefit/mac/bobbi brown counters will give a free lesson, in the hope that she will then buy stuff from them.

but also, i am a bit of a make-up obsessive, and have done nearly all of my friends' wedding-day make-up etc. i can easily gaz you some step-by-step tips for a couple of looks (mostly i go for the kind of look that seems as if you aren't really wearing it, but i also do rock-chick, evening, interview, sexy smoky slutty eyes, glittering clubby make-up...)
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:24, Reply)

I was going to suggest this
but rswipe would be much better! I generally have fairly smoky eye makeup so a lighter look might be better
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:26, Reply)

I think smoky might be what she is after
it's certainly what I'd prefer
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:27, Reply)

'I like my makeup like I like my bacon....'

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:29, Reply)

streaky?

(Cave Duck, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:30, Reply)

burnt beyond recognition?

( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 11:46, Reply)

Or show her some footage of Alice Cooper from the seventies.

(Cave Duck, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:28, Reply)

Or Lord Sutch or Arthur Brown from about 5 years earlier...

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:30, Reply)

And through this process we have arrived at the perfect gift
An Arthur Brown style erm "flaming helmet"
(Cave Duck, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:32, Reply)

yeah, gaz me that stuff and I'll see if I can make it into some kind of free present, to go with some eye makeup or something
you must bear in mind with the shops thing that I live in a pretty small city. Limited to a couple of old school department stores and a shitty boots. All the slags who work there look like they have had their makeup applied by shotgun.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:27, Reply)

i will gaz you after work with a description
and some suggested items. you can buy them ALL online!!!!!!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:33, Reply)

you are simply marvellous

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:36, Reply)

more people should realise this, vipros

( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 10:45, Reply)