I know
I'm just contractually obliged to find an exception, and it has got an interesting gun crime record. Nothing on, say, SE london or Luton mind you.

In fact, it doesn't matter how fucking good the rest of the south east is, it could be paved wall-to-wall in gold supermodels with lines of finest Bolivian ripe for snorting, it's still got Luton in it, which by association lowers it to the level of Mogadishu.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 13:46, 3 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

Luton's in the North.
You see, Oop North consists of basically everything north of Gloucester and Cambridge, with a salient just up from London that contains Bedford and Luton.
( Kroney, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 13:48, Reply)

haha, nice try
you don't get out of it that easily. That doesn't get you out of Reading, Slough and Bracknell either.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 13:55, Reply)

Ah, you have me on those three.
Still nowhere's perfect, not even the South.
( Kroney, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:39, Reply)

Croydon is worse than Luton, surely?
I've not been to either to be fair, nor do I plan to...but I don't think I've ever heard anything other than hatred expressed for Croydon.
(berk, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 13:51, Reply)

Seriously, nothing is worse than Luton
and, as I've said before, I've lived in Slough, Bracknell and Dalston.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 13:56, Reply)

Christ, I'm so sorry
reading that was worse than reading about a bereavement.
(berk, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 13:58, Reply)

I wouldn't mind
but it still costs a fucking fortune to buy houses there. It used to astound me that the south-east is so completely bollocksed that people will pay a fortune to live somewhere that you wouldn't even raise rats, let alone children, given half the chance.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:02, Reply)

^ TRUFAX
My old housemate once said that if he could get the money together he might seriously have considered buying the house where we used to live in Elephant and Castle.
(LongJohnBaldry, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:11, Reply)

Christ, I thought I'd had it bad
Skelmersdale, then Congleton.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 13:59, Reply)

But have you been to...
Milton Keynes?
(LongJohnBaldry, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 13:59, Reply)

I can't read that name now without thinking of Bill Bailey's talk about Marilyn Manson playing there...
I think this is it...
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:02, Reply)

i've got to go on a site visit to some crumbling offices there in a week or so *shudder*
and then we have a load of property agents from there coming for a seminar and drinks in april. what if they get to london and see how cool it is and NEVER LEAVE?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:02, Reply)

They will leave
eventually anyone with a grain of sense leaves. London loses its appeal as you get older.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:05, Reply)

My Dad used to say
"If you get to 40 and have never lived in London, you have no life. If you still live in London after turning 40, you have no soul."
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:13, Reply)

I quite like that

(berk, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:19, Reply)

london is amazing
but i am no lifer. i miss cheshire.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:26, Reply)

The best thing about Cheshire is the fact I live there.

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:43, Reply)

One of the many pearls of wisdom he's come out with

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:41, Reply)

when are you moving down there?

( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:38, Reply)

I left at 30.
But I'd been there since I was 17.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:49, Reply)

*checks Chompy isn't looking*
MK isn't that bad. It's odd and dull and kind of Stepford Wives-y and I wouldn't chose to live there, but at least it's not actively unpleasant and you aren't constantly at risk of various forms of crime.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:04, Reply)

Exactly. It's pretty harmless.
It's just a bit shit and dull and I...hang on, this sounds familiar...
(LongJohnBaldry, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:09, Reply)

i just don't like new buildings, i think they look soulless
welwyn garden city is one of the worst places i have ever been
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:25, Reply)

I know what you mean
There is something about a lot of modern architecture which just seems to be perpetually bland and functional. Either that or it goes in completely the opposite direction and looks crass and vulgar.
(LongJohnBaldry, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:31, Reply)

I like some modern architecture
but what really looks awful is when they try to get a new building to blend in by copying an older style. I don't know why but it never seems to work.
(Zoz prayed for twink on, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:43, Reply)

because they use cheaper tackier materials
and everything is done by machine, not by hand.

[says the expert in architecture and construction law.]
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:44, Reply)

I'm not sure they could really build them the same way
even if they did do it all by hand with the same materials. I'm guessing that building regs weren't all that when most period houses were built.
(Zoz prayed for twink on, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:49, Reply)

I SAW!!!!

(PsychoChomp, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:47, Reply)

I'll go back to calling it a fucking shitehole in public, don't you worry.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:52, Reply)

My family come from Croydon, I'm the only one to have been born in the North.

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 13:58, Reply)

It shows.

(LongJohnBaldry, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:00, Reply)

In all the best ways

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:03, Reply)

I'm flabbergasted at this tirade about the place where I live.
Luton is an anthropologist's dream. Bedfordshire's petri dish.

Still, better than Dunstable.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:17, Reply)

Is it really?
I've never been to Dunstable. Well, not for long enough to notice. I'm almost intrigued, now.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:56, Reply)

It certainly is better than Dunstable.
For a number of reasons. I'll think of some soon.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Tue 11 Jan 2011, 15:28, Reply)