Is there something wrong with being a pleb?

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 14:28, 3 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

Monty, shall I letb you field this question I'm on the phone

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 14:29, Reply)

This term is used today to refer to one who is or appears to be of the middle or lower order.
( girlinthehole, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 14:33, Reply)

Hoi polloi is acceptable, however the majority of politicians within Rome from the late Republic onwards were deemed Plebian
Crassus, Pompeius and the like. They certainly weren't equestrian or lower. FLICKS V's
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 14:37, Reply)

Politicians?
I rest my case.
( girlinthehole, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 14:39, Reply)

If Plebians were the social elite of their day, why is it derogatory to be painted with that brush?

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 14:41, Reply)

Hey! I don't make the linguistic rules.
I just google them.
( girlinthehole, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 14:43, Reply)

That was your first mistake

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 14:45, Reply)

I've used pleb in such a manner.
Don't know where I got it from.
( girlinthehole, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 14:50, Reply)

Well you've learnt something new today, cut it out

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 14:51, Reply)

You're not the boss of me.

( girlinthehole, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 14:53, Reply)

I swear down I'll fucking do time for you

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 14:58, Reply)

oi you two
get a room.

just don't tell jeff.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 15:04, Reply)

I'm like a speader of the truth, and it's thrown back in my face :(

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 15:07, Reply)

By the time Pompey & Crassus were around
it had all gone to shit. Evidence of social mobility and opportunity for non-noble citizens towards the end of the Republic does not indicate anything more than the wealth and influence of some peasant like Philip Green does about the aristocracy in modern British society.

IN MY OPINION.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 15:06, Reply)

Well if you go back to the Gracchi, they dropped their patrician status in favour of being plebian in order to hold the office of tribune
and that was a hundred years before the end of the Republic. What really done for the Patrician class were all the land and wealth grab proscriptions by Sulla and the like. They invariably ended up murdering the majority of Patricians as they were the ones with the wealth, so they ran out of numbers eventually. So enters your novus homo, Cicero didn't do so bad ' defender of the Republic'. *could go on*and on* something about Marius.....
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 15:16, Reply)

Language evolves though

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 14:41, Reply)

Not in my house it doesn't.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 14:44, Reply)

I once heard someone say "the hoi polloi". They almost died.

( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 14:49, Reply)

I am more of an 'eques', personally.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 14:35, Reply)

I'm more of a dusty kneed helot :((

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 14:43, Reply)

-joins the krypteia-

( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 14:46, Reply)

You'll never take me alive!1!!
which was the point I guess
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 14:50, Reply)

I just love the "hunting for sport" bit.
Oh, and the ritualised dress-your-wife-up-as-a-man-and-rape-her wedding night shenanigans.

Spartans were awesome.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 14:53, Reply)

Their whole society was tops
bullying of the helots as a hobby high fives
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 2 Mar 2011, 15:03, Reply)